NVIDIA Announces the GeForce RTX 3060, $330, 12 GB of GDDR6

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yeah reflections isn't a reason I game

 

[cst1992]

Reflections? Reflections were in NFS 5 too. Also in Burnout Paradise.
The vast majority of gamers don't have and don't really need RTX. Maybe when it becomes more mainstream, but at the moment, they don't.

 

[Chrispy_]

saying who ? Someone "incidentally" owning another AMD card with no RT support...

I didn't say my opinion worth more. I just said i ACTUALLY played several games using RT, and every one of them counts. And in the next future it will be even more relevant.

PS: I saw a "/RTX 2060" in your signature. I don't know what it means, but even if you own one, a RTX 2060 is not exactly the hardware to test RT.

RTX 2060 blows chunks for RT performance. I ditched mine in favour of a 2070S which still isn't great at RT unless you cheat with DLSS too, and the number of RTX+DLSS games can be counted on your fingers - hardly a representative cross section of popular games today (let alone 2 years ago when Turing was brand new!)

I bought my 2060 on performance/Watt alone, not caring about RTX at all. I ditched my 2060 because it ran out of VRAM for the third game in a row. Everything I tried with RTX ran like garbage and required me to accept serious resolution, image quality, and framerate drops. No thanks! As a 6GB raster-perfomance card, the 2060 is fine but the RTX tax was never worth it, even at $299 when the price was reduced it still couldn't justify it's almost $100 premium over the 1660S, and at the original 2060 price of $350 it was borderline obscene.

Steam survey is honestly the best representation of the market right now and the median gamer is running an Intel quad core and a GTX 1060. Like it or not, it's going to stay that way for a while because there's nothing available on store shelves for 1060 owners to upgrade to even if they want to.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

saying who ? Someone "incidentally" owning another AMD card with no RT support...

I didn't say my opinion worth more. I just said i ACTUALLY played several games using RT, and every one of them counts. And in the next future it will be even more relevant.

PS: I saw a "/RTX 2060" in your signature. I don't know what it means, but even if you own one, a RTX 2060 is not exactly the hardware to test RT.

Are you kidding, you think I haven't played cyberpunk at max settings with dlss on anyway @1080p ,I get 40 smooth frames but still I take it that's too peasant for you then.(as my system states laptops a Rog strix scarII with I7 +2060)

Saying who , someone who is not biased but realistic.

Rtx is here, new dawn and all that ,meanwhile the earth wasn't shattered and the sun didn't park itself up Nvidia's ass.

Calm the FF down I played all the same Rtx game's in 1080 and 4k and I'm Still not that bothered in some cases it's good in others hard to tell in play and in others a total nothing burger.
Essential it very much isn't.
And I can't see that changing until 2022 at the earliest though that's my opinion that last bit.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yeah I saw no real reason to pony up on the 20 series so vaporware 30 series lol yeah maybe in about 12 months they might be around for a better price.
1080ti and titan Xp are doing just fine.

 

[Sunny and 75]

They only game where rt is noticeable is cp2077 and not even the 3090 can max it out unless you compromise.

AD102 Lovelace to the rescue then!

NVIDIA AD102 (Lovelace) GPU rumored to offer up to 18432 CUDA cores - VideoCardz.com

New information on the NVIDIA AD102 graphics processor surfaces. NVIDIA Lovelace AD102 GPU A week ago we reported that NVIDIA will introduce a new graphics architecture named after Ada Lovelace. The series is expected to be NVIDIA’s next gaming architecture that could arrive even before Hopper...

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[Chrispy_]

AD102 Lovelace to the rescue then!

NVIDIA AD102 (Lovelace) GPU rumored to offer up to 18432 CUDA cores - VideoCardz.com

New information on the NVIDIA AD102 graphics processor surfaces. NVIDIA Lovelace AD102 GPU A week ago we reported that NVIDIA will introduce a new graphics architecture named after Ada Lovelace. The series is expected to be NVIDIA’s next gaming architecture that could arrive even before Hopper...

videocardz.com

Don't forget to buy your 2000W PSUs now, before the scalpers realise you need them for Lovelace.

RT or not, nvidia has good gpus, and i bet that nvidia share is 90% GTX 1060, GTX 1660.

You don't have to guess, there are stats for that sort of thing:

What's crazy is that the 1060's market share in the #1 spot is actually increasing.
I can only guess that's because cards that miners have held onto for 3 years are being sold and bought by gamers now.

 

[Anymal]

Well its not market share whats you are comparing.

 

[Max(IT)]

Well its not market share whats you are comparing.

exactly... how people are looking at Steam stats as market share is beyond my comprehension ....

 

[Sunny and 75]

Don't forget to buy your 2000W PSUs now, before the scalpers realise you need them for Lovelace.

2000W

Thanks for the heads-up! I'll keep that in mind.

 

[P4-630]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 listed early for almost as much as RTX 3060Ti - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 – first pricing appears Could NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 AIB cards cost just as much as RTX 3060 TI? Official render of NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060, Source: NVIDIA NVIDIA announced that GeForce RTX 3060 non-Ti will debut in late February at the price of 329 USD. There won’t be...

videocardz.com

 

[N3M3515]

exactly... how people are looking at Steam stats as market share is beyond my comprehension ....

Do you have a more reliable source? (besides anecdotal)

 

[Max(IT)]

Do you have a more reliable source? (besides anecdotal)

your question confirms me you don't have any clue about what market share is.

 

[N3M3515]

your question confirms me you don't have any clue about what market share is.

Right back at you

 

[dirtyferret]

your question confirms me you don't have any clue about what market share is.

yes but JPR does since they literally get paid to cover market share for investors and they have Nvidia at 80% which is just 3% lower than the STEAM hardware survey

Pandemic distorts global GPU market results

Shipments surprise: Jon Peddie Research reports that PC GPU market shipments increased by 2.5% sequentially from last quarter

www.jonpeddie.com

 

[Max(IT)]

yes but JPR does since they literally get paid to cover market share for investors and they have Nvidia at 80% which is just 3% lower than the STEAM hardware survey

Pandemic distorts global GPU market results

Shipments surprise: Jon Peddie Research reports that PC GPU market shipments increased by 2.5% sequentially from last quarter

www.jonpeddie.com

again, all of you are literally confusing market share with installed base...

Those numbers are just different numbers.
market share is based on the sales in a specific time frame (usually a quarter, but could be yearly ...).
Steam hardware survey is speaking about hardware maybe sold 3/4 years ago.

You are speaking about two different things.

According to Steam survey, GTX 1060 is the most used Nvidia GPU. Nvidia hardly sold ANY 1060 in the last 2 or 3 quarters ...
Do you see the difference ?

 

[dirtyferret]

again, all of you are literally confusing market share with installed base...

Those numbers are just different numbers.
market share is based on the sales in a specific time frame (usually a quarter, but could be yearly ...).
Steam hardware survey is speaking about hardware maybe sold 3/4 years ago.

You are speaking about two different things.

According to Steam survey, GTX 1060 is the most used Nvidia GPU. Nvidia hardly sold ANY 1060 in the last 2 or 3 quarters ...
Do you see the difference ?

Actually it's you who seems to fails at understanding how to read; if you looked at the JPR chart it literally states "market share" in the chart. As for the GTX 1060, once again you are the only one with his panties in a bunch over it as I never mentioned anything about that gpu.

 

[N3M3515]

According to Steam survey, GTX 1060 is the most used Nvidia GPU. Nvidia hardly sold ANY 1060 in the last 2 or 3 quarters ...

And the evidence?

 

[Max(IT)]

Actually it's you who seems to fails at understanding how to read; if you looked at the JPR chart it literally states "market share" in the chart. As for the GTX 1060, once again you are the only one with his panties in a bunch over it as I never mentioned anything about that gpu.

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Actually the 1060 was literally quoted a few posts about your, using Steam hardware survey as a source for market share, which is WRONG.

Quoting from the comment above:

What's crazy is that the 1060's market share in the #1 spot is actually increasing.

JPR is showing market share.
Steam isn’t showing market share.

I’m not denying Nvidia has 80% market share at all.
I was just agreeing with the other customer how Steam hardware survey isn’t showing market share.

Next time before accusing, read the whole discussion.

And the evidence?

My fault.
Arguing with someone who thinks Nvidia was selling many GTX 1060 in 2020 (a product discontinued years ago) clearly was a waste of my time.

 

[dirtyferret]

Actually the 1060 was literally quoted a few posts about your, using Steam hardware survey as a source for market share, which is WRONG.

Quoting from the comment above:

What's crazy is that the 1060's market share in the #1 spot is actually increasing.

JPR is showing market share.
Steam isn’t showing market share.

I’m not denying Nvidia has 80% market share at all.
I was just agreeing with the other customer how Steam hardware survey isn’t showing market share.

Next time before accusing, read the whole discussion.


My fault.
Arguing with someone who thinks Nvidia was selling many GTX 1060 in 2020 (a product discontinued years ago) clearly was a waste of my time.

I read the whole discussion and all I see if an immature person tossing a hissy fit.

 

[Max(IT)]

I read the whole discussion and all I see if an immature person tossing a hissy fit.

Reported for insulting again.

BTW it doesn’t seems you actually read the discussion.
It started with:

What's crazy is that the 1060's market share in the #1 spot is actually increasing.

post #82

and we just pointed out that IS NOT market share, because Steam surveys are not about sales.
Then you kicked in with a pointless link about a market share research not related to Steam hardware survey...

 

[N3M3515]

My fault.
Arguing with someone who thinks Nvidia was selling many GTX 1060 in 2020 (a product discontinued years ago) clearly was a waste of my time.

I did not even remenber what i was talking about....
*****yes... AMD will release other products with very poor RT performance and customers will still buy Geforce cards...*****
It was that phrase which i replied.
My point was amd's "poor" rt performance is irrelevant at this point, because the only game where it is noticeable (cp2077) not even the 3090 (which 99% of people can't or won't buy) is able to max it out. So, for the vast majority of people RIGHT NOW rt doesn't matter, so that "advantage" of nvidia is pointless. If i for example buy a rtx 2060, 2060 super, 3060, 3060ti, which are not cheap gpus by any means, i know i won't be able to play cp2077 at a respectable fps with rt on.
That's one thing, the other thing is, who tf buys a gpu to play 1 game?, like 99% of the games right now don't use rt, or at least in a meaningful way.

Yes, i would like to play with rt on, hell yeah, BUT when it is available in a lot of games and the performance hit is less than half of what it is now. But right now to say rt is the shit!, i'm sorry, but imho, it is irrelevant at this stage.

 

[95Viper]

As, I have stated before... Debate the statement and not the member.
If needed report the problem.
Do not report the problem... and, then post a retaliatory post to continue the drama you just reported.

Also, if you have nothing nice to say... well, read the forum guidelines.

Here is a quote from the guidelines:

Posting in a thread
Be polite and Constructive, if you have nothing nice to say then don't say anything at all.
This includes trolling, continuous use of bad language (ie. cussing), flaming, baiting, retaliatory comments, system feature abuse, and insulting others.

Thank You, and please, Have a Great Day

 

[Max(IT)]

I did not even remenber what i was talking about....
*****yes... AMD will release other products with very poor RT performance and customers will still buy Geforce cards...*****
It was that phrase which i replied.
My point was amd's "poor" rt performance is irrelevant at this point, because the only game where it is noticeable (cp2077) not even the 3090 (which 99% of people can't or won't buy) is able to max it out. So, for the vast majority of people RIGHT NOW rt doesn't matter, so that "advantage" of nvidia is pointless. If i for example buy a rtx 2060, 2060 super, 3060, 3060ti, which are not cheap gpus by any means, i know i won't be able to play cp2077 at a respectable fps with rt on.
That's one thing, the other thing is, who tf buys a gpu to play 1 game?, like 99% of the games right now don't use rt, or at least in a meaningful way.

Yes, i would like to play with rt on, hell yeah, BUT when it is available in a lot of games and the performance hit is less than half of what it is now. But right now to say rt is the shit!, i'm sorry, but imho, it is irrelevant at this stage.

I stop speaking about RT several days ago... I don't agree with your opinion but now I was just speaking about market share and Steam hardware survey...

I think RT performance are A MUST today, but as I said above, now I was just speaking about the difference between market share and Steam survey.

 

[Sunny and 75]

Read this: AMD's response to DLSS

AMD Files Patent for Chiplet Machine Learning Accelerator to be Paired With GPU, Cache Chiplets

AMD has filed a patent whereby they describe a MLA (Machine Learning Accelerator) chiplet design that can then be paired with a GPU unit (such as RDNA 3) and a cache unit (likely a GPU-excised version of AMD's Infinity Cache design debuted with RDNA 2) to create what AMD is calling an "APD"...

www.techpowerup.com

And with Jay saying that Ampere is using some kind of HT, this launch (both AMD and Nvidia) is getting less and less interesting to me.