AMD and NVIDIA Address GPU Shortage with Situation Improvement on the Horizon

[Night]

We will be hit with those price hikes, definitelly. But now we have 0 stock here in EU , thats the reason there are no price hikes yet, but I saw some in German retailers. I had preordered 3080 for 3 months and then I canceled my order because I was able to grab some 3070 from small shop in Slovakia. I thought about to buy 3080 ti but with those prices it will be like 1400e card in EU. Im not willing to pay this ridiculous price for ti with my 3070 590e card.

I'm seeing a 3070 here from retailers for as little as 690 € ($840), 3080 is 1080 € ($1313), those prices are the same since day one. RX 6800 XT is 951 € ($1156). I guess the retailers here like to rip off more, but not on all electronics. Interestingly 2 months ago I bought 2 sets of Hertz Mille Pro MPK 163.3 speakers. Each set here costs $400 but in US it's $800 which I found to be very odd.

 

[nguyen]

The gaming divide will soon mirror much of everything else. The 'haves' and the 'have nots'. I swore my 2080ti would be the last 1k GPU I'd buy. When a console costs half as much as that, the justification for spending on a single component becomes difficult, especially when other things in life are more meaningful. This debacle, the hike in costs above a false MSRP have made up my mind. I'll skip this gen. I can afford a 3090 but I won't buy one on principle. It's not going to add value to my gaming enjoyment.

Also, its the most ass-backwards part of a PC. There isn't another component in the system that degrades in 'relative' performance as quickly as a GPU. Frankly, GPU's should be at consumer CPU prices, period. But hey, I'm not a businessman, and if I was, I'd live a modest and life.

With DLSS picking up the pace I think any RTX Turing owner are gonna have a good time going forward anyways, even the 2060 is doing fine. There really is no need for Turing crowd to upgrade atm.

 

[kayjay010101]

My ass, I think the pricing is even worse.

I was not referring to the price hikes that have been going on since launch - I'm well aware of those.
I mean price hikes in direct response to the tariffs. So far I've not seen the results of that on the European market, though I'm sure it'll come eventually.

 

[Chomiq]

I'm seeing a 3070 here from retailers for as little as 690 € ($840), 3080 is 1080 € ($1313), those prices are the same since day one. RX 6800 XT is 951 € ($1156). I guess the retailers here like to rip off more, but not on all electronics. Interestingly 2 months ago I bought 2 sets of Hertz Mille Pro MPK 163.3 speakers. Each set here costs $400 but in US it's $800 which I found to be very odd.

x-kom.pl :
- 3080 - 22 models listed, all out of stock with no preorder - lowest price €950, highest €1180
- 6800 XT - 6 models listed, all out of stock with no preorder - lowest price €1150, highest €1280 (I think I saw Gigabyte Master 6800 XT yesterday in stock for €1200+ and 6800 for €1060)

morele.net:
- 3080 - 9 models listed, all available for order (only AFTER you view the product page you get the note that it's a preorder) - lowest price €1030, highest €1120
- no 6000 series AMD GPU's listed at all
People that decide to preorder are waiting in line for months (launch orders of 3080's were only fulfilled in early November).

There are also regular electronics retailers like Media Markt and such but they barely have anything listed online, only random cards pop up in handful of physical locations.

 

[thomv18]

The only 3080 card here that is lying on shop shelf is Gigabyte Aorus and it costs 1300 euro.

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[mak1skav]

Not to mention they've also become the currencies of choice for the black market and money laundering.

As far as I'm concerned, miners creating the currency are in support of the crimes that they're used for. That's why I've never mined or traded in crypto even once in my life.

FIAT currencies are used in black market, money laundering and various other criminal activities for so many years so I guess you don't support those too. You only trade for your food right? Supreme logic you have over there mate. Haters gonna hate.

 

[RedelZaVedno]

AMD and NGreedia are de facto killing DIY PC segment of the market. They could forbidden direct sales from AIBs to miners, but they've clearly chosen not to. They could easily say to Sapphire, Asus, EVGA, Gigabyte, Zotac, Sapphire, MSI &co no more Ampere/RDNA2 chips for you if you don't deliver 90% of GPUs to retailers and AIBs would obey them, cause alternative would mean the end for many of these companies. That shows us that AMD and NVidia don't give a flying F who buys their GPUs as long as they retain/increase their high profit margins. That will cause DIY PC market to shrink to ultra high end enthusiasts in the long run, but both companies have shown that they really don't care. Which is strange, especially from Nvidia standpoint (profit spreadsheet).

 

[Ketadine]

The gaming divide will soon mirror much of everything else. The 'haves' and the 'have nots'. I swore my 2080ti would be the last 1k GPU I'd buy. When a console costs half as much as that, the justification for spending on a single component becomes difficult, especially when other things in life are more meaningful. This debacle, the hike in costs above a false MSRP have made up my mind. I'll skip this gen. I can afford a 3090 but I won't buy one on principle. It's not going to add value to my gaming enjoyment.

Also, its the most ass-backwards part of a PC. There isn't another component in the system that degrades in 'relative' performance as quickly as a GPU. Frankly, GPU's should be at consumer CPU prices, period. But hey, I'm not a businessman, and if I was, I'd live a modest and life.

The consoles are cheaper because they milk you on games (soon base games will be $70) and subscriptions.

 

[Turmania]

unless you really need a new pc today, I would just wait for next gen launches from all companies. this has been a total disaster and I do not expect things to be normal even in summer. Is there a guarantee next gen launches wont suufer the same faith? probably not.

 

[Ravenas]

The supply is constrained because they are limited at TSMC and have too many eggs in the basket. The eggs include, but are not limited to: PS5 (launch), Xbox Series X/S (launch), Xbox One X, PS4, Ryzen Processors (launch), GPUS (launch), Reference Cards, Non-Reference Cards, and OEMS. I would have bought an AMD 6900 XT card this generation, but the supply is an absolute joke and retailers are doing nothing to legitimately combat bots.

 

[mechtech]

It is more than just the latest gen. On Newegg everything is out of stock going back to RX 500 series, Vega, 5700’s and same with Nvidia cards!!!

Knock on wood. Hope my GPU doesn’t die now. It would be more economical to buy a whole gaming laptop!!

 

[1d10t]

I doubt that both AMD and nVidia would do anything about this. What could they do, pushing TSMC and Samsung? LOL,no.
Just regular PR calming and appeasing crowd.

 

[Kapone33]

It will be interesting. I would like to see how this pans out. The fact that 7nm is super popular has me wondering how much money Intel threw at TSMC in a dastardly attempt to disrupt AMD's supply chain. It could be why Swan "stepped" down. I expect Intel to play very dirty in the near future.

 

[murr]

I finally ended up buying a RX6800 for 800 bucks on eBay.

 

[INSTG8R]

Still no cards available here until March...

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Remember when prices went up because of crypto demand and then went back down again, because I dont.
Prices will stay high as long as people are willing to pay.

So I guess you were in a coma when R9 290xs were selling brand new for $200? Because I remember that being a GREAT time to buy GPUs.

The gaming divide will soon mirror much of everything else. The 'haves' and the 'have nots'. I swore my 2080ti would be the last 1k GPU I'd buy. When a console costs half as much as that, the justification for spending on a single component becomes difficult, especially when other things in life are more meaningful. This debacle, the hike in costs above a false MSRP have made up my mind. I'll skip this gen. I can afford a 3090 but I won't buy one on principle. It's not going to add value to my gaming enjoyment.

Also, its the most ass-backwards part of a PC. There isn't another component in the system that degrades in 'relative' performance as quickly as a GPU. Frankly, GPU's should be at consumer CPU prices, period. But hey, I'm not a businessman, and if I was, I'd live a modest and life.

Show me another component that has such high demands placed on it. When the 980ti came out, 1080p120 and 1440p60 were all that was expected of it. Now we expect 1440p144 and 4k75+ out of these GPUs, and games are pushing the boundaries of graphics with every passing year.

Stop upping your resolution. The RX 480 still does a magnificient job at 1080p. My vega 64 can max out everything on the market today at 1440p and maintain 60 FPS. That is onyl 1080 performance, or now 3060 performance. These rediculously expensive GPUs are for stupid high resolutions and people that must absolutely have "ultra" everythign, when high usually looks jsut as good and runs twice as well. And stop demanding more frames, higher framerates get exponentially harder to render in time and demand yet more GPU power.

You're right, the gaming divide will be between haves and have nots. That is, people who have a brain and people who have not eaten today because they have to have the biggest epeen to play minecraft at 8k 200 FPS.

 

[Minus Infinity]

I have only one thing to say cough BS cough.

 

[N3M3515]

The gaming divide will soon mirror much of everything else. The 'haves' and the 'have nots'. I swore my 2080ti would be the last 1k GPU I'd buy. When a console costs half as much as that, the justification for spending on a single component becomes difficult, especially when other things in life are more meaningful. This debacle, the hike in costs above a false MSRP have made up my mind. I'll skip this gen. I can afford a 3090 but I won't buy one on principle. It's not going to add value to my gaming enjoyment.

Also, its the most ass-backwards part of a PC. There isn't another component in the system that degrades in 'relative' performance as quickly as a GPU. Frankly, GPU's should be at consumer CPU prices, period. But hey, I'm not a businessman, and if I was, I'd live a modest and life.

Even msrps are absurdly high.

 

[Totally]

No, they don’t, because of Trump’s tariffs.. look at new normal prices of some AIBs:

from $440 to $500 and now $530 for an RTX 3060 Ti
from $540 to $600 and now $640 for an RTX 3070
from $750 to $780 and now $840 for an RTX 3080
from $1550 to $1580 and now $1900 for an RTX 3090

Nice try but stuff like tech is excluded from tariffs. You should actually do take a look at what the actual tariffs were.

 

[kayjay010101]

Nice try but stuff like tech is excluded from tariffs. You should actually do take a look at what the actual tariffs.

Uh, it's official. https://www.techpowerup.com/277228/...ac-increase-nvidia-rtx-30-series-pricing?cp=2

 

[MikeSnow]

I'm seeing a 3070 here from retailers for as little as 690 € ($840), 3080 is 1080 € ($1313), those prices are the same since day one. RX 6800 XT is 951 € ($1156). I guess the retailers here like to rip off more, but not on all electronics. Interestingly 2 months ago I bought 2 sets of Hertz Mille Pro MPK 163.3 speakers. Each set here costs $400 but in US it's $800 which I found to be very odd.

Here in Romania the 3060 ti, 3070 and 3080 are out of stock, the 3090 is available at $2500 + VAT.

On the AMD side, the 6800 is available at $1500 + VAT, and the 6800 XT and 6900 XT are out of stock.

Zen 3 CPUs are all in stock, except the 5950X. The 5900X is $600 + VAT ($50 over MSRP), the 5800X at $460 + VAT ($10 over MSRP), and the 5600X at $414 + VAT ($114 over MSRP).

 

[Totally]

Uh, it's official. https://www.techpowerup.com/277228/...ac-increase-nvidia-rtx-30-series-pricing?cp=2

Uh it's not. the official reason given in the press release is "because reasons" (my thoughts is that scalpers showed them that people are willing to pay a lot for a GPU, so they simply want a cut of the money flowing into the scalpers pockets, which isn't not a bad thing nor necessarily a good thin either) , the rest is Raevenlord's speculations and when he mentioned tariffs that sentence was dripping in skepticism/sarcasm.

 

[the54thvoid]

Tariffs are possibly more relevant to board partners. ASUS has already stared that various reasons, one of which is tariffs, has resulted in a price increase. I'm not sure how that would affect AMD or Nvidia. They sell chips to companies with fabrication facility outside US. It's an import tariff, I think, so the final article, the completed card, is subject to tariffs in the US. The tariffs weren't applicable last year, they were given an exemption but that expired at the end of December.

 

[jboydgolfer]

nvidia new full well in summer/fall 2020 that supplies wouldnt be sufficient to support a new product line, which means if we're still in shortage 6 months later, its intentional.

starve the market for a while, then come in with your new GPU lineup in plentiful numbers (at a 20% increase in price) & you look like the hero to the hordes of desperate 'gotta have its' drooling over 2x msrp listings.

 

[medi01]

x-kom.pl :
- 3080 - 22 models listed, all out of stock with no preorder - lowest price €950, highest €1180
- 6800 XT - 6 models listed, all out of stock with no preorder - lowest price €1150, highest €1280 (I think I saw Gigabyte Master 6800 XT yesterday in stock for €1200+ and 6800 for €1060)

morele.net:
- 3080 - 9 models listed, all available for order (only AFTER you view the product page you get the note that it's a preorder) - lowest price €1030, highest €1120
- no 6000 series AMD GPU's listed at all
People that decide to preorder are waiting in line for months (launch orders of 3080's were only fulfilled in early November).

There are also regular electronics retailers like Media Markt and such but they barely have anything listed online, only random cards pop up in handful of physical locations.

You can buy from mindfactory.de
Overpriced, but mightly in stock for many weeks now:

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