Intel Launches 11th Gen Core "Rocket Lake": Unmatched Overclocking and Gaming Performance

[Deleted member 202104]

The difference between the two CPUs is damn near insignificant, so much so that you really can't go wrong with EITHER one.

We can even take this one step further and apply this to choosing between AMD and Intel. Put all the current six and eight core CPUs from both brands on the wall and throw a dart. You'll be fine with what ever you hit.

(yes I have a 10 core Intel part and it was a waste of money for what I do)

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Mine was also a major waste but I'm not complaining lol

 

[Caring1]

Gotta love the usual waver in the release: Reaching speeds of up to 5.30 GHz with Intel Thermal Velocity Boost
In other words it's crap without it, and only lasts a few seconds at best.

 

[Mussels]

Gotta love the usual waver in the release: Reaching speeds of up to 5.30 GHz with Intel Thermal Velocity Boost
In other words it's crap without it, and only lasts a few seconds at best.

wow its like me in the bedroom

 

[MikeSnow]

especially when the 5800x is the gaming performance king, it's allowed to be worse in price: performance for its niche status

And being currently available here in Romania at $411 + VAT. So about 10% under the MSRP. I wish the GPU world was like this.

 

[Turmania]

I will wait for reviews especially non k versions before giving my final judgement. I believe AMD will lead in performance per watt however there are many other equations such as total price of a new system and softwate/ bios reliability which I believe Intel would be miles ahead.

 

[Makaveli]

I admire value and the fact Intel allows us poors to build a solid gaming rig for cheaper than what AMD allows. That and I'm all for plug & play builds these days. If you look at the System Builders Advice forum on here there's a couple of threads that are two and three pages deep on what RAM to get for an AMD build. I see that and all I can think is 'wtf'.

If you look at the history of both companies in the last 30 years. Intel has held higher prices, AMD is the reason you are getting discounted pricing on Intel products now and the only reason. Then your point about not knowing what ram to get based on a couple forum pages just shows your inexperience in building computers. Stick to QVL for the motherboard you are getting then speed and latency based on your budget.

This story that you are trying to project that intel is for the poors is laughable at best.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Everything up to the 11600KF looks pretty decent..... The 2 8 core chips look meh as F^%& though. I will wait for reviews like everyone should for final judgment.

All the poor people should be thanking AMD for being able to buy intel chips for a good price. That's the biggest conclusion I came up with reading this thread Intel is now for poor people... Unless you want a decent Z590 board cuz those start around 300

 

[Why_Me]

If you look at the history of both companies in the last 30 years. Intel has held higher prices, AMD is the reason you are getting discounted pricing on Intel products now and the only reason. Then your point about not knowing what ram to get based on a couple forum pages just shows your inexperience in building computers. Stick to QVL for the motherboard you are getting then speed and latency based on your budget.

This story that you are trying to project that intel is for the poors is laughable at best.

You do math? Well then figure out what numbers are bigger. AMD continues their war on poors. =/

Intel Core i5-10400F - Core i5 10th Gen Comet Lake 6-Core 2.9 GHz LGA 1200 65W None Integrated Graphics Desktop Processor - BX8070110400F - Newegg.com

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www.newegg.com

Intel Core i5-10400F $150.99

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600/p/N82E16819113569
AMD RYZEN 5 3600 $218.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/int...s-12-threads-29ghz-43ghz-turbo-12mb-cache-65w
Intel Core i5 10400F £124.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/int...reads-26ghz-44ghz-turbo-12mb-cache-65w-retail
Intel Core i5 11400F £149.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/amd...-turbo-32mb-l3-pcie-40-65w-with-wraith-stealt
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 £184.99 (Was: £189.98 TODAY ONLY DEAL)

 

[Gmr_Chick]

^ you poor, sweet summer child...

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Only reason why Intel is the budget option now is because of AMD, why are you not understanding this simple fact.

 

[Why_Me]

Only reason why Intel is the budget option now is because of AMD, why are you not understanding this simple fact.

Well duh. When AMD charges more for their cpu's than Intel of course they're making Intel the budget option.

 

[Gmr_Chick]

That wasn't the point @Alexa was trying to make....

 

[Why_Me]

That wasn't the point @Alexa was trying to make....

Alexa deserved that reply for throwing me a low hanging curveball.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Well duh. When AMD charges more for their cpu's than Intel of course they're making Intel the budget option.

You know, this entire thread I was pretty short-sighted. Yes AMD did increase prices, but I actually shouldn't and don't mind the price bumps considering the performance improvements of Zen 3. Intel did price bumps during the entirety of Skylake for single digit IPC improvements, if any.

Now they're on the defensive -- lowering prices so people will go and buy their CPUs instead, which in itself is not a bad thing. Lower prices is good for our wallets. I now wish Alder Lake would be good so AMD can do the same. Processors from both sides are more than enough to accomplish every task you need them to.

But saying that Intel is for the poor is... factually incorrect. They weren't up until Zen 3 appeared. Going by your logic, you're going to be yapping about how Intel is suddenly "declaring war on poor people" when they get the upper hand, increase prices, and AMD is forced to lower prices until they cook something up that can fight back.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Alexa deserved that reply for throwing me a low hanging curveball.

Come on man you seem like a smart enough dude..... The 10400F started life as a terrible value vs the 3600 on top of being locked into a z490 board for maximum performance vs only needing B450 with the 3600. Demand is dictating current pricing and even at its inflated price people rather purchase the 3600....

 

[Mussels]

Intel dropped their prices because the products were inferior

Yes, that 10400F might be cheap... but whats a board cost that doesnt lock your ram speeds down, vs any old B450 board that can run any ryzen?

 

[Why_Me]

You know, this entire thread I was pretty short-sighted. Yes AMD did increase prices, but I actually shouldn't and don't mind the price bumps considering the performance improvements of Zen 3. Intel did price bumps during the entirety of Skylake for single digit IPC improvements, if any.

Now they're on the defensive -- lowering prices so people will go and buy their CPUs instead, which in itself is not a bad thing. Lower prices is good for our wallets. I now wish Alder Lake would be good so AMD can do the same. Processors from both sides are more than enough to accomplish every task you need them to.

But saying that Intel is for the poor is... factually incorrect. They weren't up until Zen 3 appeared. Going by your logic, you're going to be yapping about how Intel is suddenly "declaring war on poor people" when they get the upper hand, increase prices, and AMD is forced to lower prices until they cook something up that can fight back.

The fact of the matter is Intel has the manufacturing and distributing power to lower their prices on the Rocket Lake cpu's thus putting the screws to AMD even more so. The only thing holding Intel back is the fact there isn't any gpu's to be had for new builds. If Intel was on it they'd offer the chance to purchase one of these cards with the purchase of any i5 on up socket 1200 cpu and drive AMD right into the ground.

https://www.techpowerup.com/279731/intel-xe-hpg-graphics-card-could-compete-with-big-navi-ampere

 

[Makaveli]

You do math? Well then figure out what numbers are bigger. AMD continues their war on poors. =/

Intel Core i5-10400F - Core i5 10th Gen Comet Lake 6-Core 2.9 GHz LGA 1200 65W None Integrated Graphics Desktop Processor - BX8070110400F - Newegg.com

Buy Intel Core i5-10400F - Core i5 10th Gen Comet Lake 6-Core 2.9 GHz LGA 1200 65W None Integrated Graphics Desktop Processor - BX8070110400F with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.com

Intel Core i5-10400F $150.99

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600/p/N82E16819113569
AMD RYZEN 5 3600 $218.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/int...s-12-threads-29ghz-43ghz-turbo-12mb-cache-65w
Intel Core i5 10400F £124.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/int...reads-26ghz-44ghz-turbo-12mb-cache-65w-retail
Intel Core i5 11400F £149.99

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/amd...-turbo-32mb-l3-pcie-40-65w-with-wraith-stealt
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 £184.99 (Was: £189.98 TODAY ONLY DEAL)

I don't need to do the math you are being deliberately obtuse.

When company A has a higher performing product than company B they will price it as such. There is also supply and demand in the market which affects pricing. Intel like AMD are both publicly traded companies, they cannot offer products that are superior for cheap prices, they have shareholders to answer to not just you a consumer buying the products. They can get sued by their investors which can also tank share prices this game is bigger than you trying to save $40 bucks.

When intel has a superior product you can be sure they will price it as such, and your Intel for the poors argument goes out the window. I don't think you understand how any of this works and maybe time for a new hobby? A PS5 will be much cheaper and fit your budget.

 

[Why_Me]

Intel dropped their prices because the products were inferior

Yes, that 10400F might be cheap... but whats a board cost that doesnt lock your ram speeds down, vs any old B450 board that can run any ryzen?

Not only do the new B560 boards support 3200MHz RAM but they also allow for memory OC.

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007627 601360973 <--- a few of those boards are already starting to show up on US sites.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Not only does the new B560 boards support 3200MHz RAM but they also allow for memory OC.

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007627 601360973 <--- a few of those boards are already starting to show up on US sites.

You do realize this is only because Ryzen has been pimp slapping intel in the diy market right........ Ryzen has had memory overclocking on its B boards since 2017..... Took intel over 4 years to join the party....

 

[Why_Me]

You do realize this is only because Ryzen has been pimp slapping intel in the diy market right........ Ryzen has had memory overclocking on its B boards since 2017..... Took intel over 4 years to join the party....

And I can remember back when Intel came up with the Core 2 Duo which was the biggest thing since the invention of sliced bread for the average Joe who wanted to OC their cpu without having to first become a rocket scientist. Back to the present ... if you want a budget to mid-range gaming build then there's no reason to go with AMD atm unless you want less performance for your money.

 

[Zotz]

"

"Unmatched Overclocking and Gaming Performance"​

Where "unmatched" means what any reader would expect: slightly better in a couple of cases while drawing twice the power.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

The fact of the matter is Intel has the manufacturing and distributing power to lower their prices on the Rocket Lake cpu's thus putting the screws to AMD even more so. The only thing holding Intel back is the fact there isn't any gpu's to be had for new builds. If Intel was on it they'd offer the chance to purchase one of these cards with the purchase of any i5 on up socket 1200 cpu and drive AMD right into the ground.

https://www.techpowerup.com/279731/intel-xe-hpg-graphics-card-could-compete-with-big-navi-ampere

I'll be waiting for your posts bashing Intel for jacking up prices, and when AMD is suddenly the "good guy" again.

 

[Zotz]

And I can remember back when Intel came up with the Core 2 Duo which was the biggest thing since the invention of sliced bread for the average Joe who wanted to OC their cpu without having to first become a rocket scientist. Back to the present ... if you want a budget to mid-range gaming build then there's no reason to go with AMD atm unless you want less performance for your money.

That budget to mid-range build better have high-end cooling.