The RX 6000 series Owners' Club

[deadman3000]

How high are you 6700 XT owners pushing MPT power limit to break past 2800Mhz? I'm using the XFX AIB limit of 211 watts but want to see where the 'safe' limits are without burning out my card lol.

 

[aRcane305]

You cannot bump power by 50% in Wattman.
It is only possible to do 15% there.
To push high one need to use MPT.

When I had 6900XT Toxic I also noticed that when you have Trixx installed and tried to manually tune stuff in Radeon Driver then there were conflicts.

Yes i used mpt and set power to 50%, wattman only goes as far as 15%. so does that mean even if i set it in mpt, it wont actually be 50% more power to the card? because wattman sets it at 15%

 

[Butanding1987]

Ok, I'm no expert, but I have never heard of that happening to thermal pads before. It looks like they completely disintegrated. Makes me wonder what brand pads were used (so I'll know to never use them).

The red ants ate them. That explains why I saw them marching toward the PC a couple months ago. I thought there was food inside the case so I used some insecticide chalk on the case and around the GPU block. I didn’t know they were having a feast on the circuit board and had munched on the thermal pads.

 

[turbogear]

Yes i used mpt and set power to 50%, wattman only goes as far as 15%. so does that mean even if i set it in mpt, it wont actually be 50% more power to the card? because wattman sets it at 15%

If you apply higher power in MPT that works. 15% from Radeon driver would be added on top of what you set in MPT.

For example, if you increase in MPT Core Power GPX to 290W and apply 15% in the driver, then this is what the total GPU Core power will be:
290Wx1.15=333.5W

But note that this in only GPU core power. To find total power consumption of your card you need to add about another 45W for other components on the card.
So in the above example that would be around 378.5W total power.

The specified limit for cards with two PCIe power cable is 375W.
So as the above example show if you go higher than 287W on Core then you are running the card out of official PCIe spec.

Here is how you calculate specified PCIe power depending on number of connectors:
2 connector: 2x150W+75W=375W
3 connector: 3x150W+75W=525W

In the above equation 75W is from the PCIe slot on mainboard.

The red ants ate them. That explains why I saw them marching toward the PC a couple months ago. I thought there was food inside the case so I used some insecticide chalk on the case and around the GPU block. I didn’t know they were having a feast on the circuit board and had munched on the thermal pads.

These ants look dangerous.
They will dig a hole in the GPU core and make their nest for the winter.

 

[Garlic]

How high are you 6700 XT owners pushing MPT power limit to break past 2800Mhz? I'm using the XFX AIB limit of 211 watts but want to see where the 'safe' limits are without burning out my card lol.

My nitro+ can break 2800 without mpt, but I have the power limit set to 240w in mpt anyways. The max frequency that you set in radeon software will always be about 50-100mhz lower in games, I have mine set to 2900 max frequency and 2800 min, the card does about 2810-2840 in games.

 

[Raendor]

Do you guys have any problems with afterburner? I basically can't run it with RDR2. The game crashes on start. When it's not running - all good. Bu the problem is that monitoring via afterburner is way better than via radeon software. I suspect that the two just conflict each other, so I wonder if installing driver only version of latest adrenaline and setting clock/voltage settings via afterburner instead will help the issue. Any advice?

 

[Butanding1987]

Do you guys have any problems with afterburner? I basically can't run it with RDR2. The game crashes on start. When it's not running - all good. Bu the problem is that monitoring via afterburner is way better than via radeon software. I suspect that the two just conflict each other, so I wonder if installing driver only version of latest adrenaline and setting clock/voltage settings via afterburner instead will help the issue. Any advice?

You don't need Afterburner if all you're after is monitoring. Riva Tuner will do.

 

[Raendor]

You don't need Afterburner if all you're after is monitoring. Riva Tuner will do.

Rivaruner doesn’t do anything for me if afterburner is not installed and I can’t set all required metrics without afterburner in it. Tried that some time ago.

 

[GamerGuy]

Weird, while I have no issue with AB, I do have CTD (even hard locked a couple of times) when I have GPU-Z enabled and running in background to ascertain my max temp/core/mem/etc. It'd either CTD or freeze, forcing me to hit the 'Reset' button. Without GPU-Z running, it's plain sailing...

 

[Butanding1987]

Rivaruner doesn’t do anything for me if afterburner is not installed and I can’t set all required metrics without afterburner in it. Tried that some time ago.

You need to learn how to make your own overlay using the overlayeditor plugin in Riva Tuner. There are many tutorials on the web about this. Here's what I made myself. I don't have Afterburner.

 

[jesdals]

I was just playing around with some wattage counting from the wall - peak usage 715 watt

But thats with a baseline around 200 Watt for my setup except the pc

The setup also include a secondary desktop and monitor both shut down - but monitor still use some. So a around 515 Watt peak and 450 average gameing in 7680x1440 in Division 2

Will do some direct testing of pc consumption later - but just wanted to se what my setup was using

 

[dragospetre88]

Guys, red devil rx 6900 xt limited edition user here. I have a question. Been trying to find an answer for a while, but with no luck. In short, I found out that in ac valhalla and horizon zero dawn my card can sustain 2700+ MHz 1138 memory with 2650 min - 2750 max 1175 mv, 15% extra power. In any other game, the card cant go higher than 2500 MHz. Both hzd and valhalla stay at approx 290-300 W power consumed, while all the other games draw up to 320w, which is max tdp, but clock speeds dont go higher than 2500 MHz. I use 60% vents, temps 65 degrees max. If I use more power tool to raise max tdp up to 360w, other games can GO to 2650 mhz, hzd and valhalla 2720 max (i get crashes if I set 2700-2800). Now why do those two games can sustain 2700 MHz with no mpt?

 

[Space Lynx]

I was just playing around with some wattage counting from the wall - peak usage 715 watt

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But thats with a baseline around 200 Watt for my setup except the pc
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The setup also include a secondary desktop and monitor both shut down - but monitor still use some. So a around 515 Watt peak and 450 average gameing in 7680x1440 in Division 2

Will do some direct testing of pc consumption later - but just wanted to se what my setup was using

the only thing I would improve upon, with that elite of a setup... your monitors are severely lacking. I'd like to see you get a 48" OLED wall mounted at an angle, so you can push back your chair, lean back, and enjoy controller based games in that sexy sexy OLED goodness.

I'm bit of an OLED slut at this point, so don't mind me. just passing by...

edit: better yet toss that chair in trash, get a lazy boy recliner, then kick back with the OLED wall mounted. oh sweet mama.

 

[jesdals]

edit: better yet toss that chair in trash, get a lazy boy recliner, then kick back with the OLED wall mounted. oh sweet mama.

Well still have to do some work from home thats why the 3 monitor setup is the better choise for me - but will consider a better chair

 

[turbogear]

Guys, red devil rx 6900 xt limited edition user here. I have a question. Been trying to find an answer for a while, but with no luck. In short, I found out that in ac valhalla and horizon zero dawn my card can sustain 2700+ MHz 1138 memory with 2650 min - 2750 max 1175 mv, 15% extra power. In any other game, the card cant go higher than 2500 MHz. Both hzd and valhalla stay at approx 290-300 W power consumed, while all the other games draw up to 320w, which is max tdp, but clock speeds dont go higher than 2500 MHz. I use 60% vents, temps 65 degrees max. If I use more power tool to raise max tdp up to 360w, other games can GO to 2650 mhz, hzd and valhalla 2720 max (i get crashes if I set 2700-2800). Now why do those two games can sustain 2700 MHz with no mpt?

Well I experienced same thing with Valhalla.
With my 6800XT before that was OCed to 2750MHz@1020mV, I used to get clock of 2700MHz in this game with power consumption of around 250W on Core.
Cyberpunk used to maintain 2.7GHz with around 290W core power consumption.
On the other hand Control is a game that pushed card to limit and in that game setting higher than 2675MHz@985mV was unstable and at this setting maximum game clock was 2620MHz and GPU Core was consuming 340W.
Every game is different to how it tasks the GPU.
In games where the GPU is heavily tasked more power can help to maintain higher clocks but not always as Control shows the higher setting are unstable.

Well still have to do some work from home thats why the 3 monitor setup is the better choise for me - but will consider a better chair

I own one of those noblechairs EPIC edition.
It is good for both gaming and home office.

EPIC

Breathable gaming chair from noblechairs in black with black stitching, 2.3" casters, 4D armrests, Upholstered in 2 kinds of vegan PU leather.

noblechairs.com

 

[Raendor]

You need to learn how to make your own overlay using the overlayeditor plugin in Riva Tuner. There are many tutorials on the web about this. Here's what I made myself. I don't have Afterburner.

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Thanks, didn’t know about that. but still wonder if its afterburner that’s causing incompatibility rtss as well. Though if rtss works fine for you, then it must be ok to use as standalone.

 

[turbogear]

Thanks, didn’t know about that. but still wonder if its afterburner that’s causing incompatibility rtss as well. Though if rtss works fine for you, then it must be ok to use as standalone.

I use Rivatuner statistics server for collecting FPS data but together with HWINFO.
There is a possibility to enable overlay in HWINFO to display FPS from Rivatuner together with millions of other sensors that HWINFO is able to access on the computer.

This way I am able see for example GPU and CPU clocks, power consumption, temperatures, voltages, FPS etc. while in games.

 

[Space Lynx]

I own one of those noblechairs EPIC edition.
It is good for both gaming and home office.

EPIC

Breathable gaming chair from noblechairs in black with black stitching, 2.3" casters, 4D armrests, Upholstered in 2 kinds of vegan PU leather.

noblechairs.com

I actually bought a small recliner for my desk, it was like $300 (local furniture store), I just scoot it out a little more whenever I want to kick up the feet and do a controller game or movie. its heaven. lol i can sleep in it too. when scooted in i can use kb/m just fine

 

[Garlic]

In MPT I took the power limit to 270w but in games its still the same as what it was before, did I do something wrong or does the card just doesn't draw that much power?

 

[Butanding1987]

In MPT I took the power limit to 270w but in games its still the same as what it was before, did I do something wrong or does the card just doesn't draw that much power?

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Did you click "Write SPPT"? You also need to restart for the settings to take effect. Also, your card won't draw more power unless you overclock the core or VRAM.

 

[Garlic]

In MPT I took the power limit to 270w but in games its still the same as what it was before, did I do something wrong or does the card just doesn't draw that much power?

Did you click "Write SPPT"? You also need to restart for the settings to take effect. Also, your card won't draw more power unless you overclock the core or VRAM.

Yes I did all of above and its overclocked, maybe its because of my GPU having bad vrms thaats unable to give the gpu more power?

 

[Butanding1987]

I've changed to Thermalright pads (12.8w/mk) and I noticed a considerable drop in both core and hot spot temperatures. My new average temp after a Port Royal run is now about 46 degrees C compared with 54 degrees C before. I know it doesn't translate to any real-world benefits but it's good to stare at a better number (and I mean the temp, not the performance numbers which I'm sure haven't changed much).

 

[turbogear]

I've changed to Thermalright pads (12.8w/mk) and I noticed a considerable drop in both core and hot spot temperatures. My new average temp after a Port Royal run is now about 46 degrees C compared with 54 degrees C before. I know it doesn't translate to any real-world benefits but it's good to stare at a better number (and I mean the temp, not the performance numbers which I'm sure haven't changed much).

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That's nice.
Your new temperatures are comparable to what I had on my 6800XT.

But I don't understand why changing the pads for VRM and VRAM will make your core and junction temperature better except if you meant that now you use a thermal pad on the GPU chip instead of thermal past.

I was using 12w/mK pads for VRM and VRAM and Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut for the GPU chip.

 

[Butanding1987]

That's nice.
Your new temperatures are comparable to what I had on my 6800XT.

But I don't understand why changing the pads for VRM and VRAM will make your core and junction temperature better except if you meant that now you use a thermal pad on the GPU chip instead of thermal past.

I was using 12w/mK pads for VRM and VRAM and Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut for the GPU chip.

You're right. LOL. My memory junction temp stays in the low 40s now. About my core temp, I forgot to mention that I shifted from Kryonaut to Conductonaut liquid metal. Our ambient temp here is about 35 degrees C (yes, it's hot and humid).

 

[turbogear]

You're right. LOL. My max junction temp is now in the 60s from the high 70s earlier. About my core temp, I forgot to mention that I shifted from Kryonaut to Conductonaut liquid metal.

That makes sense now.
I haven't used Conductonaut since some time.
I used it last time on i7 7700K after de-liding it.

I hope you used some isolation paint on the components on the GPU chip that are close to the exposed thermal pad.