Maximum crunching on the cheap

PaulieG · Jul 14, 2021

So, some bill are due and I'm going to be selling off a couple of 5950x's rigs, most likely locally. I'd like to make up for it a bit by running a couple of older setups that will give some maximum value for WCG. Can someone give me some suggestions on older and cheaper Xeon chips/boards that are known to crank out the work on the cheap? All help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Lorec · Jul 14, 2021

PaulieG said:
So, some bill are due and I'm going to be selling off a couple of 5950x's rigs, most likely locally. I'd like to make up for it a bit by running a couple of older setups that will give some maximum value for WCG. Can someone give me some suggestions on older and cheaper Xeon chips/boards that are known to crank out the work on the cheap? All help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Life happens every now and then. Sigh. Anyhow rather than Xeons Id recommend Ryzen 7 1700 its a 65W TDP chip and it sips power and also it doesnt cost much anymore!

PaulieG · Jul 14, 2021

Lorec said:
Life happens every now and then. Sigh. Anyhow rather than Xeons Id recommend Ryzen 7 1700 its a 65W TDP chip and it sips power and also it doesnt cost much anymore!

But would a Ryzen 7 1700 with 8 cores complete more work than dual Xeon e5650's with a total of 12?

Toothless · Jul 14, 2021

PaulieG said:
But would a Ryzen 7 1700 with 8 cores complete more work than dual Xeon e5650's with a total of 12?

Yep. A good chunk more.

PaulieG · Jul 14, 2021

Toothless said:
Yep. A good chunk more.

Ok, well that settles that. Thanks!

Toothless · Jul 14, 2021

PaulieG said:
Ok, well that settles that. Thanks!

I would also look into V2 Xeons if you're able to. My 2680v2 will max at 100w with 20 threads, and dual sockets help with saving space.

Lorec · Jul 14, 2021

I do still own and use Xeon E5 2695V2 as a one of main crunchers though!
Ryzen IPC is so much better after all, I feel like my e5 2695 is just barely keeping up with my r7 1700.
Powerwise yeah, 1700 sips power like its freshly brewed earl grey tea

I might move on at some point but x79 was an adventure I wanted to embark on

80-watt Hamster · Jul 15, 2021

Lorec said:
Powerwise yeah, 1700 sips power like its freshly brewed earl grey tea

You, sir/madam, are a gentlewoman/man and a scholar.

phill · Jul 15, 2021

Lorec said:
Life happens every now and then. Sigh. Anyhow rather than Xeons Id recommend Ryzen 7 1700 its a 65W TDP chip and it sips power and also it doesnt cost much anymore!

These aren't bad CPUs at all, depending on the motherboard you end up with, (X370 for example) I'd consider trying to go for the 3700X or even a 3900X. I've both of mine running at 1.0vcore, its 24 threads and loaded it's pulling 145w

Even with the 1080 TI folding on top of it, its not pulling 280w total

I've got a link for some testing I did with power usage, I'll grab it for you

EDIT - Found it!!

'Ere 'tis!!

The 1700's are good CPUs but if you can find any of the non X models, they are normally 65w models. That said, you can always undervolt most of the Ryzen CPUs and they will work at a lower clock speed, even if you have to set them to run at a fix speed.
I find even with the V3/V4 Xeons they are in no where near the performance of a Ryzen CPU, even more so the later models. Xeon's just aren't as good as they used to be. Ryzen has really shook the boat!

I always say to myself, rather than selling hardware to try and pay for things since it's something you want, it's possibly better to keep hold of the hardware as you'll just loose money selling it and so on.. Life sucks at times and whilst I'm daft enough to buy sometimes at the wrong time, I don't try and sell it if I'm short.. Always another way I think

KLiKzg · Sep 1, 2021

If you need to run cheaper, then you need to run on:
- most cores/threads to get days in for badges
- least speed, to have least wattage
Depending of the chipset, you can do some calcs.

My 2 best setups are C30 & T5500 (not using those CPUs), for that would be:
- C30 w. 2x Xeon E5-2630L - each 60W = 40days per day
- T5500 w. 2x L5638 - each 60W = 24days per day
etc.

Let us know, what you have picked.

PaulieG · Sep 1, 2021

I picked up a 1700x and a 2700x a while back that should be up and running by this weekend to make up for some of what I lost with the 5950x's I sold. It's the first time in a couple months that I'll have some extra time on my hands!

Processor	5800x(2)/5700g/5600x/5600g/2700x/1700x/1700
Motherboard	MSI B550 Carbon (2)/ MSI z490 Unify/Asus Strix B550-F/MSI B450 Tomahawk (3)
Cooling	EK AIO 360 (2)/EK AIO 240, Arctic Cooling Freezer II 280/EVGA CLC 280/Noctua D15/Cryorig M9(2)
Memory	32 GB Ballistix Elite/32 GB TridentZ/16GB Mushkin Redline Black/16 GB Dominator
Video Card(s)	Asus Strix RTX3060/EVGA 970(2)/Asus 750 ti/Old Quadros
Storage	Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe 500GB/WD Black M.2 NVMe 500GB/Adata 500gb NVMe
Display(s)	Acer 1080p 22"/ (3) Samsung 22" 1080p
Case	(2) Lian Li Lancool II Mesh/Corsair 4000D /Phanteks Eclipse 500a/Be Quiet Pure Base 500/Bones of HAF
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova 850G(2)/EVGA Supernova GT 650w/Phantek Amps 750w/Seasonic Focus 750w
Mouse	Generic Black wireless (5)
Keyboard	Generic Black wireless (5)
Software	Win 10/Ubuntu

System Name	Nilin
Processor	Ryzen 9 5800x
Motherboard	Asus Rog Crosshair VIII Hero Wifi
Cooling	Lian Li Galahad AIO 360
Memory	G. Skill TridentZ Neo 32gb 3600Mhz CL16-16-16-36
Video Card(s)	Asus TUF RTX 3080
Storage	Samsung Evo 960 250gb (System), Samsung Evo 860 500gb (Misc), Samsung 990 Pro 1Tb (Games)
Display(s)	LG 27" UHD IPS, LG Ultragear 27" WQHD Nano IPS
Case	InWin 303 (7x Fractal Prisma 120mm)
Power Supply	Tt Toughpower Grand RGB 850W
Mouse	Razer Viper Ultimate
Keyboard	SteelSeries Apex 3
Benchmark Scores	https://www.3dmark.com/fs/21022952 (old system)

Processor	5800x(2)/5700g/5600x/5600g/2700x/1700x/1700
Motherboard	MSI B550 Carbon (2)/ MSI z490 Unify/Asus Strix B550-F/MSI B450 Tomahawk (3)
Cooling	EK AIO 360 (2)/EK AIO 240, Arctic Cooling Freezer II 280/EVGA CLC 280/Noctua D15/Cryorig M9(2)
Memory	32 GB Ballistix Elite/32 GB TridentZ/16GB Mushkin Redline Black/16 GB Dominator
Video Card(s)	Asus Strix RTX3060/EVGA 970(2)/Asus 750 ti/Old Quadros
Storage	Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe 500GB/WD Black M.2 NVMe 500GB/Adata 500gb NVMe
Display(s)	Acer 1080p 22"/ (3) Samsung 22" 1080p
Case	(2) Lian Li Lancool II Mesh/Corsair 4000D /Phanteks Eclipse 500a/Be Quiet Pure Base 500/Bones of HAF
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova 850G(2)/EVGA Supernova GT 650w/Phantek Amps 750w/Seasonic Focus 750w
Mouse	Generic Black wireless (5)
Keyboard	Generic Black wireless (5)
Software	Win 10/Ubuntu

System Name	Veral
Processor	5950x
Motherboard	MSI MEG x570 Ace
Cooling	Corsair H150i RGB Elite
Memory	4x16GB G.Skill TridentZ
Video Card(s)	Powercolor 7900XTX Red Devil
Storage	Crucial P5 Plus 1TB, Samsung 980 1TB, Teamgroup MP34 4TB
Display(s)	Acer Nitro XZ342CK Pbmiiphx + 2x AOC 2425W
Case	Fractal Design Meshify Lite 2
Audio Device(s)	Blue Yeti + SteelSeries Arctis 5 / Samsung HW-T550
Power Supply	Corsair HX850
Mouse	Corsair Nightsword
Keyboard	Corsair K55
VR HMD	HP Reverb G2
Software	Windows 11 Professional
Benchmark Scores	PEBCAK

Processor	5800x(2)/5700g/5600x/5600g/2700x/1700x/1700
Motherboard	MSI B550 Carbon (2)/ MSI z490 Unify/Asus Strix B550-F/MSI B450 Tomahawk (3)
Cooling	EK AIO 360 (2)/EK AIO 240, Arctic Cooling Freezer II 280/EVGA CLC 280/Noctua D15/Cryorig M9(2)
Memory	32 GB Ballistix Elite/32 GB TridentZ/16GB Mushkin Redline Black/16 GB Dominator
Video Card(s)	Asus Strix RTX3060/EVGA 970(2)/Asus 750 ti/Old Quadros
Storage	Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe 500GB/WD Black M.2 NVMe 500GB/Adata 500gb NVMe
Display(s)	Acer 1080p 22"/ (3) Samsung 22" 1080p
Case	(2) Lian Li Lancool II Mesh/Corsair 4000D /Phanteks Eclipse 500a/Be Quiet Pure Base 500/Bones of HAF
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova 850G(2)/EVGA Supernova GT 650w/Phantek Amps 750w/Seasonic Focus 750w
Mouse	Generic Black wireless (5)
Keyboard	Generic Black wireless (5)
Software	Win 10/Ubuntu

Maximum crunching on the cheap

PaulieG

Lorec

PaulieG

Toothless

Tech, Games, and TPU!

PaulieG

Toothless

Tech, Games, and TPU!

Lorec

80-watt Hamster

phill

Moderator

KLiKzg

PaulieG

System Name	Office
Processor	Ryzen 5600G
Motherboard	ASUS B450M-A II
Cooling	be quiet! Shadow Rock LP
Memory	16GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4-3200
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte RX 5600 XT
Storage	PNY CS1030 250GB, Crucial MX500 2TB
Display(s)	Dell S2719DGF
Case	Fractal Define 7 Compact
Power Supply	EVGA 550 G3
Mouse	Logitech M705 Marthon
Keyboard	Logitech G410
Software	Windows 10 Pro 22H2

System Name	Not so complete or overkill - There are others!! Just no room to put! :D
Processor	Ryzen Threadripper 3970X
Motherboard	Asus Zenith 2 Extreme Alpha
Cooling	Lots!! Dual GTX 560 rads with D5 pumps for each rad. One rad for each component
Memory	Viper Steel 4 x 16GB DDR4 3600MHz not sure on the timings... Probably still at 2667!! :(
Video Card(s)	Asus Strix 3090 with front and rear active full cover water blocks
Storage	I'm bound to forget something here - 250GB OS, 2 x 1TB NVME, 2 x 1TB SSD, 4TB SSD, 2 x 8TB HD etc...
Display(s)	3 x Dell 27" S2721DGFA @ 7680 x 1440P @ 144Hz or 165Hz - working on it!!
Case	The big Thermaltake that looks like a Case Mods
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	EVGA 1600W T2
Mouse	Corsair thingy
Keyboard	Razer something or other....
VR HMD	No headset yet
Software	Windows 11 OS... Not a fan!!
Benchmark Scores	I've actually never benched it!! Too busy with WCG and FAH and not gaming! :( :( Not OC'd it!! :(