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Why i'm boycotting corsair (iCue 4.x)

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Well i'm still using 3.20.80 not going to version 4, my LL fans and the controller thing seem fine with this version.
 
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I can't relate to any of these experiences. I never install software from the companies for mobo, cooler, lighting, etc. I don't even use software for my Razer Naga, since I only use the side buttons anyway, no need to program them. It's not that I don't find it interesting, I actually just forget LOL looks like that was a good thing after all

edit: I just do clean install of win 10, install chipset, reboot, install graphics, reboot. and that;s about it. away I go lol
Likewise, life is smoother without excessive software. More code, more problems.
I use razer & MSI peripherals for gaming. The 'standard' windows drivers are good enough imo. Nothing else required. & I dislike RGB bling.
 
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I just saw the comments on the other page, regarding the dumpster fire that is armory crate.. If you have the Intel driver, you don't need to dl the crate. I really dislike how they did that.. asks if you want to connect upon first boot to dl the crate so you can get your drivers... wait what? Forget that nonsense lol. I just keep the driver nearby. Pretty much every board I've had over the last I don't know.. 15 years? has had a driver that can be used with the windows install disk. This board just has to be different.
 

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All i need is a USB fan controller that remembers % settings between reboots/with no software installed and i'm peachy

i found a software program that did that for icue 3.x years ago, but forgot its name... it let you adjust the hardware saved settings of various older corsair devices
 
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I stopped using any Corsair software years ago when I bought Corsair link and it flashed the firmware on my 1200i and bricked all the sensor readouts. The products are great but their implementation of software needs serious work.
 

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Damn i've lost that program for good, i think the author deleted it

all i can remember is it had a real 90's UI feel with one main ugly window, that popped out into smaller ones - one was for USB devices, and could control the commander pro and send numbers of 0-7 for the lighting, and had another 0-255 for the fans
 
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In my opinion it's time to boycott corsair

They've gone an updated iCue from version 3 to version 4, and V4 is required for all new products going forward, which is fine except for two things

1. V4 ditches support for a lot of their older products, they just dont work.
2. V4 uninstalls V3, you cannot run both at once


So if you guy a new corsair product, you have no choice: you need to throw out your old corsair products and buy new supported ones - corsairs official stance on this is that these products are EOL and should no longer have software or driver support.


edit: list of abandoned products
Here is the list of products that will no longer be supported in iCUE 4:
  • K66 Mechanical Keyboard

  • Sabre RGB (2016 version)

  • Sabre RGB Optical ((2015 version)

  • Sabre RGB Laser (2015 version)

  • KATAR (2015 version)

  • VOID USB (2015 version)

  • VOID WIRELESS (2015 version)

  • VOID SURROUND (2015 version)

  • Scimitar (2015 version)

  • H80i GT Hydro Series Cooler

  • H100i GTX Hydro Series Cooler

  • H110i GTX Hydro Series Cooler

  • H80i V2 Hydro Series Cooler

  • H100i V2 Hydro Series Cooler

  • H115i Hydro Series Cooler

  • H110i GT Hydro Series Cooler

  • H110i Hydro Series Cooler
yeah, icue 4 is piece os sh, i use 3.38 with vengeance rgb pro and corsair strafe keyboard, v4 has annoying bugs with led on/off, works itself.....

Damn i've lost that program for good, i think the author deleted it

all i can remember is it had a real 90's UI feel with one main ugly window, that popped out into smaller ones - one was for USB devices, and could control the commander pro and send numbers of 0-7 for the lighting, and had another 0-255 for the fans
i like 90's UI LOT BETTER than "modern" piece of sh "metro flat" ui trend. but, i like the software to work properly, idc about ui then...

Likewise, life is smoother without excessive software. More code, more problems.
I use razer & MSI peripherals for gaming. The 'standard' windows drivers are good enough imo. Nothing else required. & I dislike RGB bling.
i like rgb thing when it works "as is", without comprehensive piece of software, OOH YEAH, razer, that's another piece of crap with their software.... overpriced crap, lol.
 

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I just saw the comments on the other page, regarding the dumpster fire that is armory crate.. If you have the Intel driver, you don't need to dl the crate. I really dislike how they did that.. asks if you want to connect upon first boot to dl the crate so you can get your drivers... wait what? Forget that nonsense lol. I just keep the driver nearby. Pretty much every board I've had over the last I don't know.. 15 years? has had a driver that can be used with the windows install disk. This board just has to be different.
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Yeah asus added it to x299 bios last year in August pure crapware

Went custom loop to get away from corsair and other crapware on aio's
 
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Yeah asus added it to x299 bios last year in August pure crapware

Went custom loop to get away from corsair and other crapware on aio's
That's the only reason I used that stupid link software and controller for the damn aio and me being a pleb thought plugging in my PSU wouldn't cause any harm.
 
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That's the only reason I used that stupid link software and controller for the damn aio and me being a pleb thought plugging in my PSU wouldn't cause any harm.
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Can't remember which aio requires facebook sign in to save aio preferences, man that one got returned the next day lol
 
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O think I gave up on aios before they hit me with that
 
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All i need is a USB fan controller that remembers % settings between reboots/with no software installed and i'm peachy

i found a software program that did that for icue 3.x years ago, but forgot its name... it let you adjust the hardware saved settings of various older corsair devices
You know ,I still have a mcubed T balancer, it's still one of the best set and ignore fan controllers I've ever used, it's software was old school and a bit naff ,but it worked.

After monitoring fan speeds a day or so I would retract the measure of positivity I threw Corsair way, the commander just sits at some dumb ass random speed(800/1100) , it doesn't control shit without icue loaded, sorry.
 

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Wow i went back to corsair link, the ages old one and it functions better than icue, so i'll use it for now in W11

Commander pro does *not* function for anything but static RPM without icue services active in the background.
If they crash (often caused by Hwinfo or other temp monitoring software) they just freeze at whatever RPM they were at, making 0RPM at idle outright dangerous
 
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Hi,
Yeah asus added it to x299 bios last year in August pure crapware

Went custom loop to get away from corsair and other crapware on aio's
ok, you have the time and effort to create custom. i just choose "what i want", and getting it from reputated manufacturers.
 

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If they crash (often caused by Hwinfo or other temp monitoring software) they just freeze at whatever RPM they were at, making 0RPM at idle outright dangerous
I assume you know that CorsairLink and Asetek support need to be disabled in Hwinfo.
 

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I assume you know that CorsairLink and Asetek support need to be disabled in Hwinfo.
That wasnt enough for some builds of icue, and if you DID trigger the bug it survived reboots of the PC, until you manually restarted the service
 

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I cant complain about iCUE, 0 issues so far.
 

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Motherboard ASUS TUF GAMING Z590-PLUS WIFI
Cooling Corsair Hydro H150i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB
Memory 16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO [3000MHz 2x8GB]
Video Card(s) 10GB EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 ULTRA GAMING
Storage 1TB Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus, 2TB Seagate HDD, 240GB Kingston SSD
Display(s) Samsung C32JG5x Curved, 1080p, 1920 x 1080
Case Corsair iCUE 4000X RGB
Audio Device(s) USB Speakers 2.1
Power Supply Corsair RM750x 80PLUS GOLD
Mouse Razer Mouse
Keyboard Microsoft Sidewinder X4 Keyboard
Software Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit 22H2 (10.0.19045).4291 22H2
I've just reinstalled iCUE ver 3.38.61 (after a windows install) and have had no issues with the software.....
 

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System Name Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s) Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s) Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s) Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores Nyooom.
Corsair may have actually listened, all the icue 4.x patch notes are adding devices back in
These are new changes, and may earn some respect back... they still have a bunch of headsets and other devices that need support, too.

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System Name Sandfiller
Processor I5-10400
Motherboard MSI MPG Z490 GAMING PLUS
Cooling Noctua NH-L9i (92x25mm fan)
Memory 32GB Corsair LPX 2400 Mhz DDR4 CL14
Video Card(s) MSI RX 5700 XT GAMING X
Storage Intel 670P 512GB
Display(s) 2560x1080 LG 29" + 22" LG
Case SS RV02
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster Z
Power Supply Fractal Design IntegraM 650W
Mouse Logitech Triathlon
Keyboard REDRAGON MITRA
Software Windows 11 Home x 64
I have the H80Gi GT, I can confirm it works with 4.xx. It actually is better than with 3.xx, because it gives control of the pump. Previously it was permanently in "quiet" mode. Now I can select "extreme" as well.
 

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System Name Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s) Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s) Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s) Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores Nyooom.
The key is, those watercoolers

The coolers ran on some internal vague temp reading to control the fans, which easily led to overheating on some modern chips (or, extremely loud fans) - so good, important to fix.

The headphones, mice and keyboards work with generic drivers but missing some features, so i can see those being lower priority to add, but they really need to do so.
 

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System Name Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s) Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s) Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s) Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores Nyooom.
I was terrified having to install iCue. I was SO relieved Nox Vidmate VLC when I set my colour it “stuck” and I could immediately uninstall it and have never had to use it again. :respect:
Sorry the Nox what now?
 
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