Windows 11 General Discussion

RJARRRPCGP · Oct 22, 2021

FireFox said:
Which one?

The major update addressing Ryzen performance issues, TMK.

AlwaysHope · Oct 22, 2021

I haven't read through every page of this thread but to get to the point, those who have installed 11 on official non compliance HW, are you all able to get that OS updates still?

Shrek · Oct 22, 2021

AlwaysHope · Oct 22, 2021

Andy Shiekh said:
Yep

Really? that's confident. But how long for....

theFOoL · Oct 22, 2021

AlwaysHope said:
Really? that's confident. But how long for....

Well that's the thing... We just don't know. M$ might just be like "Ah let's give them a year's worth of updates" but that me with nice thoughts

AlwaysHope · Oct 22, 2021

theFOoL said:
Well that's the thing... We just don't know. M$ might just be like "Ah let's give them a year's worth of updates" but that me with nice thoughts

Yes, think they'll do something like that. I mean they are not silly & know too well how many "hackers" are out there so it's only a matter of time before they come up with something, somehow, to give unofficial hardware 'hacks' the chop.

Mussels · Oct 22, 2021

Awww my server doesnt want to update with secure boot off. rude.
The reg fixes dont work either, so i'll have to run it "normal"

Google is shit, i really need to know what will happen with moving an OS drive between systems, or changed hardware without resetting those keys.
I like being able to move my SSD to another system and get it working instantly, or restoring a backup from machine 1 to machine 2.

lexluthermiester · Oct 22, 2021

Andy Shiekh said:
An interesting perspective; Windows 11 is nice I admit, but is it so different from Windows 10?

In my opinion, yes. The changes are very significant.

Mussels said:
Google is shit, i really need to know what will happen with moving an OS drive between systems, or changed hardware without resetting those keys.
I like being able to move my SSD to another system and get it working instantly, or restoring a backup from machine 1 to machine 2.

I might be missing something, but why is that Googles fault/problem?

Anyway, with Windows 10/11 you should just be able to plug the drive in and let it rediscover the new hardware. Windows will need reactivation but if you have a retail CDKey, that should go smoothly. If you have an OEM key and it doesn't work, then you'll need to call the activation center. I've never seen them not activate.

FireFox said:
Ask @ThrashZone
Sure he can explain you better than me.

Still wondering about this...

ThrashZone · Oct 22, 2021

FireFox said:
Last time we were discussing about Microsoft activating windows with stored key, when installed W11 To Go Microsoft activated that too, now i am wondering how is Microsoft activating every single OS i install

lexluthermiester said:
What do you mean?

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Read a while back even a new build if you use the same network card 10 auto activates.

FireFox said:
Still it doesn't makes any sense to me.
My point is/was: i have one copy of W11 on my PC, then one hour later i add a new SSD and install a second copy of W11 then the same day i install another 2 copies of W11, so that's 4 copies of W11 in the same PC and Microsoft still activate of all then?

windwhirl said:
Yes. They're on the same PC. I understand Microsoft licenses their Windows client OS per device, not per installation instance, for want of a better word

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Yeah I waiting for firefox to say he never activated the first 11 install and it just activated without a key entered
In that case why ask why

FireFox said:
I activated just one key ( W10 ) on 25 December 2020, that's it.

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Then ms likes you very much

lexluthermiester said:
What? That's the second time you've made a statement like that. What are you talking about?

AFAIK, a CDKey is still needed for activation.

FireFox said:
Ask @ThrashZone
Sure he can explain you better than me.

.

lexluthermiester said:
Still wondering about this...

Hi,
Just have to read back on the history a little
Region could matter
Four installs isn't all that interesting on the same machine
Auto activating is but ip address could be why 11 auto activated

theFOoL · Oct 22, 2021

IP Address

I don't think that's how it works...

ThrashZone · Oct 22, 2021

theFOoL said:
I don't think that's how it works...

Hi,
Never know EU is an interesting region which tends to sue large companies.
Might be a MS cost of doing business there deal lol

Making a system image atm on z490 of 11
See what happens
Already got a banner on win-7 notepad after opening it that there's a new version available the nagging begins lol

windwhirl · Oct 22, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Auto activating is but ip address could be why 11 auto activated

For OEM devices Microsoft can make use of the serial numbers coded in the machine's firmware

Everything else, they can use the TPM module and/or the hardware identification (MAC address of the NIC, processor serial number if there is one, or any other information they can get through DMI)

stiffmeister · Oct 22, 2021

Windows 11 developer pre release beta keeps changing my system language to US, from the UK anyone else have this problem

theFOoL · Oct 22, 2021

stiffmeister said:
Windows 11 developer pre release beta keeps changing my system language to US, from the UK anyone else have this problem

Not here...

ThrashZone · Oct 22, 2021

Hi,
So far first little test benchmark on FF-endwalker looks ugly compared to a recent run on 10's run

Doing another system image after turning off ms pretender and a bunch of other crapola using @W1zzard scripts or same as used on 10 anyway not all of it then I'll play some more on z490.

stiffmeister · Oct 22, 2021

theFOoL said:
Not here...

Only started about a week ago with the latest build update, though it's annoying as my keyboard language and my system time changes everytime i reboot

theFOoL · Oct 22, 2021

stiffmeister said:
Only started about a week ago with the latest build update, though it's annoying as my keyboard language and my system time changes every time i reboot

I have to ask "Just without screahing Ha" What's the difference in US/UK Keyboard

stiffmeister · Oct 22, 2021

theFOoL said:
I have to ask "Just without screahing Ha" What's the difference in US/UK Keyboard

Just the position of some characters like @ and " are swapped around, there is no £ on the US layout, maybe a few others though they're the main ones I use regularly that makes it a hassle when it changes, funnily enough my KB is a US layout so when Windows changes to US language, the buttons on it work as intended though it still messes me up as I know where the correct position is for the UK characters regardless of what is printed on the keys

ThrashZone · Oct 22, 2021

stiffmeister said:
Just the position of some characters like @ and " are swapped around, there is no £ on the US layout, maybe a few others though they're the main ones I use regularly that makes it a hassle when it changes, funnily enough my KB is a US layout so when Windows changes to US language, the buttons on it work as intended though it still messes me up as I know where the correct position is for the UK characters regardless of what is printed on the keys

Hi,
So it changes the clock so much like changing the region US to UK ?

stiffmeister · Oct 22, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
So it changes the clock so much like changing the region US to UK ?

No, that's the strange thing, the clock only changes by -1hr so definitely not US time :confused:

ThrashZone · Oct 22, 2021

stiffmeister said:
No, that's the strange thing, the clock only changes by -1hr so definitely not US time

Hi,
Sounds like it's applying daylight savings time ?

outpt · Oct 22, 2021

In the state’s MS believes everyone leaves on the west coast. 2-3 hr difference

theFOoL · Oct 22, 2021

outpt said:
In the state’s MS believes everyone leaves on the west coast. 2-3 hr difference

Indeed where on each install I'm forced to change after setup/First-Boot

Another Preview....

lexluthermiester · Oct 22, 2021

I think I'm still missing something. Are you all say that Windows 11 is self-activating without a key input?

stiffmeister · Oct 22, 2021

lexluthermiester said:
I think I'm still missing something. Are you all say that Windows 11 is self-activating without a key input?

if installing to a previously activated Windows 10 PC, yes

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