NVIDIA GeForce RTX 40-series Cards to Enter Production Next Month, Partners to Receive First Cards

[Bwaze]

Step one: prepare new generation of cards.

Step two: release only the top tier, with everything else to follow months later.

Step three: have an extremely limited stock, so ensure a scarcity and price increase.

Step four: wait in this state for the next cryptowave, even if it means a year. Who cares about poor and stingy gamers.

Step five?????

Step six: PROFIT!!!!

 

[MentalAcetylide]

Step one: prepare new generation of cards.

Step two: release only the top tier, with everything else to follow months later.

Step three: have an extremely limited stock, so ensure a scarcity and price increase.

Step four: wait in this state for the next cryptowave, even if it means a year. Who cares about poor and stingy gamers.

Step five?????

Step six: PROFIT!!!!

The Nvidia leather underpants gnomes from south park have graduated to graphics cards?

Imo, I don't think we have much to worry about when it comes to crypto currency mining unless someone starts a new one that somehow manages to get promoted enough in a short period of time that causes a bunch of people to jump back on the crypto mining bandwagon. The only way I see something like that happening is if something like Bitcoin or Ethereum makes a new or "sub" crypto currency that can be mined, but I highly doubt that would occur.

 

[Assimilator]

And if he's wrong people will be reminding him to death that he mislead his followers to buy the overpriced cards, when 4070/4080 was just around the corner.

The cult of personality around big YouTubers, as with any celebrity, is such that regardless of what said YouTubers say or do and regardless of how correct that is or not, a large portion of their audience will back them because that portion is incapable of thinking for itself.

JayzTwoCents could claim that the next NVIDIA GPU will be blessed by Jesus and it wouldn't matter to his fans, because they should be declared legally braindead.

 

[Sisyphus]

Rumours of an 800W 4090Ti with 48GB VRAM are so completely overkill for me and pretty much everyone else on the damn planet that it's little more than a marketing stunt for the wealthy elites and Youtubers who get free samples.

4090 is a semiprofessional card, designed for content creators. There are graphics servers with 2-4 3090, they will upgrade to 4090. They are a lot cheaper as the Quadro series, nearly same performance with exceptions. If you want only gaming, 4080 is ok.

 

[Lycanwolfen]

800 watt 4090TI guess it comes with it's own power brick that plugs into the wall. Hmmm Reminds me of the voodoo5 6000 all over again.

When Nvidia makes a card that can perform like a 4090Ti and only 250 watts then I will be impressed.

 

[Bomby569]

Watched a video JayzTwoCents posted where he said he had on good authority that they werent even going to be released for another year. So this is confusing.

JUST BUY

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Clearly a limited Nvidia only release early with OEMs delayed due to a later start limited?!, That's my take.

 

[ModEl4]

Probably just a mention at SIGGRAPH (Illuminating the Future of Graphics) regarding Ada LoveLace architecture and how it enables machine learning and A.I. to play a more pivotal role in the design of future computer graphics and a RTX 4000 reveal at GTC? (Join Nvidia for the online conference September 19-22, 2022, and be part of what comes next. (the Era of A.I.)

 

[eidairaman1]

4090 is a semiprofessional card, designed for content creators. There are graphics servers with 2-4 3090, they will upgrade to 4090. They are a lot cheaper as the Quadro series, nearly same performance with exceptions. If you want only gaming, 4080 is ok.

More excuses smh

 

[AlwaysHope]

Wholesale electricity prices are up to 3 times higher than this time last year down here in Australia. The default action of passing these increases on to consumers will only create more hesitation for high end PC enthusiasts & professional content creators with these top of the range 4000 series cards & their projected power consumption.
I would not be surprised in the slightest if similar scenarios like this are taking part in other nations as well.

 

[Devastator0]

Wholesale electricity prices are up to 3 times higher than this time last year down here in Australia. The default action of passing these increases on to consumers will only create more hesitation for high end PC enthusiasts & professional content creators with these top of the range 4000 series cards & their projected power consumption.
I would not be surprised in the slightest if similar scenarios like this are taking part in other nations as well.

Fellow Aussie here, completely agree mate. My thinking is exactly the same as you.

 

[Bomby569]

Wholesale electricity prices are up to 3 times higher than this time last year down here in Australia. The default action of passing these increases on to consumers will only create more hesitation for high end PC enthusiasts & professional content creators with these top of the range 4000 series cards & their projected power consumption.
I would not be surprised in the slightest if similar scenarios like this are taking part in other nations as well.

has anyone ever did the "math", how much would a beast like this cost in electricity with that leaked TDP and average chaos 2022 electricity costs?

i think it also depends on how much you use it, if it is a couple of hours a week it shouldn't be too much, for a heavy gamer then yes it should be some value to consider.

 

[64K]

So no delay for 4000 series cards?

The last I read the 4090 would release first and then the 4080 and 4070 would release later this year or possibly even early next year. There is still a glut of 3080s and 3070s that need to be sold.

 

[Chomiq]

Step one: prepare new generation of cards.

Step two: release only the top tier, with everything else to follow months later.

Step three: have an extremely limited stock, so ensure a scarcity and price increase.

Step four: wait in this state for the next cryptowave, even if it means a year. Who cares about poor and stingy gamers.

Step five?????

Step six: PROFIT!!!!

It's win-win for Nvidia no matter what.

 

[R0H1T]

Probably or maybe not? I think the big companies are underestimating the potential shock of this upcoming stagflation(?) & how it could in fact bankrupt the more vulnerable not so agile businesses!

 

[64K]

Probably or maybe not? I think the big companies are underestimating the potential shock of this upcoming stagflation(?) & how it could in fact bankrupt the more vulnerable not so agile businesses!

It's going to be a rough time for people living on the fringe with little savings.

 

[AlwaysHope]

has anyone ever did the "math", how much would a beast like this cost in electricity with that leaked TDP and average chaos 2022 electricity costs?

i think it also depends on how much you use it, if it is a couple of hours a week it shouldn't be too much, for a heavy gamer then yes it should be some value to consider.

Good point, depends on daily usage of course. But factor in those projected costs along side next gen raptor lake or Zen 4 high end chips which wealthy enthusiasts will tend to indulge in & one could be looking at 1kw systems if measured from the wall plug.
Heck, I just got my RX 6800 XT which has a factory OC on it & this afternoon ran Firestrike benchmark to get a baseline for performance among other benchmarks from that suite & my power meter recorded 594w peak from the wall plug just in that particular benchmark, all this with an OC i7-11700K@5.0GHz. Hope this gives some kind of perspective on the situation.

 

[Chrispy_]

4090 is a semiprofessional card, designed for content creators. There are graphics servers with 2-4 3090, they will upgrade to 4090. They are a lot cheaper as the Quadro series, nearly same performance with exceptions. If you want only gaming, 4080 is ok.

The start of my quote that you cut out mentioned 4080. Rumours are that the 4080 will be in the ballpark of 450W for the FE and probably approaching 600W for factory-OC partner cards. That's still utterly stupid.

 

[medi01]

Fellow Aussie here, completely agree mate. My thinking is exactly the same as you.

Wait, what? How much is 1kW/h then, 0.7 Euro???

 

[Chrispy_]

Wait, what? How much is 1kW/h then, 0.7 Euro???

Energy costs around most of the world are quadruple what they were a decade ago.

If your PC now draws 750W from the wall under gaming load, and you factor three hours a day on average, that's around €200 a year just to power your gaming PC

 

[Bomby569]

Wait, what? How much is 1kW/h then, 0.7 Euro???

0.7euros?! that seems insane. I live in one of the UE countries with more expensive energy and it's nowhere near that, not even close. I doubt any country has energy that expensive.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

What reputation? YTers can just make another "I'm sorry I doubted Intel/Nvidia/AMD" to gain another million views!

Because ALL of them do that right? Do you even watch Jay?

 

[Sisyphus]

The start of my quote that you cut out mentioned 4080. Rumours are that the 4080 will be in the ballpark of 450W for the FE and probably approaching 600W for factory-OC partner cards. That's still utterly stupid.

If they're launching 4090 and 4080 variants first, then I'm not remotely interested.

Rumours of an 800W 4090Ti with 48GB VRAM are so completely overkill [♦...]

Original post. You inserted a paragraph, the two statements are clearly separated. My response refers to the 4090 only. Anyway, what I don't understand is your criticism of board partner OC-cards. The client can choose between 400w to 600W. If someone chooses 600W OC++ supermodel, it's just his choice. You can also buy a standard 450W card, and undervolt it a bit, cut the max boost rate a bit and you have a 350W card. Or you buy a 4070, do the same and you get 3080 frame rates for 250W. I would criticize a bad implementation of undervolting/power usage tools. Every installation process should give you an easy choice between three stable settings. I am using msi afterburner for my evga card, works fine, but isn't optimal.

 

[Chrispy_]

Original post. You inserted a paragraph, the two statements are clearly separated. My response refers to the 4090 only. Anyway, what I don't understand is your criticism of board partner OC-cards. The client can choose between 400w to 600W. If someone chooses 600W OC++ supermodel, it's just his choice. You can also buy a standard 450W card, and undervolt it a bit, cut the max boost rate a bit and you have a 350W card. Or you buy a 4070, do the same and you get 3080 frame rates for 250W. I would criticize a bad implementation of undervolting/power usage tools. Every installation process should give you an easy choice between three stable settings. I am using msi afterburner for my evga card, works fine, but isn't optimal.

Paragraph break or not it was 100% clear in my opening sentence that I'm not interested in the 4080, so I don't know why you're insisting on arguing its rumoured merits to me.
Is it less horific than then 4090Ti? Sure.
Does that make it good, affordable, necessary, or efficient? Hell no, not even remotely.
Until we have actual cards reviewed, this is all speculation, but I don't have to speculate whether I want a 450W+ graphics card in the same room as me, ever; The answer is still no.

 

[Sisyphus]

Don't buy them and everything is fine. I doubt, there are many clients refusing to buy a 4090 or 4080 for their power consumption. These are semiprofessional and enthusiast cards. You're just not the target group of the product.