5800X3D slashed > £329/$329

[SL2]

...they really should update their website.
5800X, 5700G, 5600G twice in the list and no 5800X3D while it sells like crazy everywhere...

You're looking at two different lists in the same post.

 

[gffermari]

You're looking at two different lists in the same post.

loooooooooool

I just noticed that!! My mistake!

 

[GerKNG]

imo the 5800X3D is not that great of a deal (even after the price cut)
you pay ~360€ (taxes, shipping) for an 8 Core CPU which is around as fast as a 13600k (which can be overclocked by around 500Mhz all Core) and is only 20 bucks more expensive.
but the 13600k wipes the floor with the 5800X3D in every single application.
and if it's strictly fps per dollar the 5600 is often at 135€.

 

[freeagent]

But!!

13600K will not drop into an existing AM4 board.

 

[P4-630]

But!!

13600K will not drop into an existing AM4 board.

Use the force!!

 

[izy]

imo the 5800X3D is not that great of a deal (even after the price cut)
you pay ~360€ (taxes, shipping) for an 8 Core CPU which is around as fast as a 13600k (which can be overclocked by around 500Mhz all Core) and is only 20 bucks more expensive.
but the 13600k wipes the floor with the 5800X3D in every single application.
and if it's strictly fps per dollar the 5600 is often at 135€.

Maybe if you have an high end AM4 motherboard it makes sense to get the 5800X3D. (you can use same cooler , same motherboard, more "P" cores and less power i think)

 

[freeagent]

Maybe if you have an high end AM4 motherboard it makes sense to get the 5800X3D. (you can use same cooler , same motherboard, more "P" cores and less power i think)

You don’t need a high end board for 58X3D though. It’s super easy to run. You can’t overclock it, and what you can get, you are limited to 143w PPT. So you don’t need anything with crazy good VRM’s. Truth be told, if I push my 5600X I can get it to use 7w PPT more than 58X3D, but it is borderline stable like that

 

[izy]

You don’t need a high end board for 58X3D though. It’s super easy to run. You can’t overclock it, and what you can get, you are limited to 143w PPT. So you don’t need anything with crazy good VRM’s. Truth be told, if I push my 5600X I can get it to use 7w PPT more than 58X3D, but it is borderline stable like that

Yes i know , the idea was that you can reuse that motherboard and get 5800X3D than having to buy a new motherboard if you go for an intel CPU, you can save some money and keep the features that your "high end" motherboard has ( probably you have to go for a lower end motherboard if you are going with Intel) .

 

[Space Lynx]

I'm still happy I went with my 13600k, it wipes the floor with AMD when it comes to 1% and 5% lows, resulting in a smoother gameplay experience. 5800x3d only wins in lows in like two games, one of which is Factorio, which is the only game that is heavily heavily biased towards x3d design to begin with, making it a null comparison as it is an outlier.

 

[gffermari]

I'm still happy I went with my 13600k, it wipes the floor with AMD when it comes to 1% and 5% lows, resulting in a smoother gameplay experience. 5800x3d only wins in lows in like two games, one of which is Factorio, which is the only game that is heavily heavily biased towards x3d design to begin with, making it a null comparison as it is an outlier.

Congratulations, you bought a brand new cpu in an already dead platform....
The 3D was never meant to attract new DIY pc builders.
It's the ultimate solution for the hunded of thousands of AM4 users out there.

If AMD announces similar support to AM5, no one sane would buy a 13000 Intel. Not even 14000...

 

[freeagent]

I'm still happy I went with my 13600k, it wipes the floor with AMD when it comes to 1% and 5% lows, resulting in a smoother gameplay experience.

I’m happy I bought into AM4, because at the time there was zero competition. 2 years later here we are..

 

[Space Lynx]

Congratulations, you bought a brand new cpu in an already dead platform....
The 3D was never meant to attract new DIY pc builders.
It's the ultimate solution for the hunded of thousands of AM4 users out there.

If AMD announces similar support to AM5, no one sane would buy a 13000 Intel. Not even 14000...

I'm not wanting to upgrade anything for 5 years, so why would I care if the platform is dead or not, by the time I am ready to upgrade AM6 socket will be out. at end of day, with higher and higher resolutions, cpu's really don't matter anymore. get over yourself.

enjoy your 95 celsius am5 socket.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Indeed it is, but I wonder at which point it doesn't make sense over a 5600 (€140), based on what GPU you pair it with. Still haven't seen any 5800X3D tests with midrange cards.

Well if you're going with a mdi range GPU, youre likely going for 60 FPS, which means there is 0 difference between the two.

Where the 3d really pays of is 90+ FPS, where it can keep 1% lows over 90, unlike anything else at the moment.

That being said, if you plan to keep your CPU for as long as possible the 3d is a no brainer, it will have a notably longer lifespan then the 5600.

 

[Space Lynx]

Well if you're going with a mdi range GPU, youre likely going for 60 FPS, which means there is 0 difference between the two.

Where the 3d really pays of is 90+ FPS, where it can keep 1% lows over 90, unlike anything else at the moment.

That being said, if you plan to keep your CPU for as long as possible the 3d is a no brainer, it will have a notably longer lifespan then the 5600.

raptor lake still beats x3d in 1% lows almost across the board. not sure what you on about bud

x3d decimates raptor lake in Factorio, and one other game. that's about it.

 

[gffermari]

I'm not wanting to upgrade anything for 5 years, so why would I care if the platform is dead or not, by the time I am ready to upgrade AM6 socket will be out. at end of day, with higher and higher resolutions, cpu's really don't matter anymore. get over yourself.

enjoy your 95 celsius am5 socket.

That's the thing. Investing in AM5 now, you can upgrade in 3-4-5 years time without changing anything else.

**I agree. CPUs don't really matter that much in real life conditions. It will make some difference if a 6090 is equipped with the todays cpus.**

**Don't think the Intel cpus are cooler. Both 7000 and 13000 are ....sXitty on this matter.**

 

[Space Lynx]

That's the thing. Investing in AM5 now, you can upgrade in 3-4-5 years time without changing anything else.

**I agree. CPUs don't really matter that much in real life conditions. It will make some difference if a 6090 is equipped with the todays cpus.**

**Don't think the Intel cpus are cooler. Both 7000 and 13000 are ....sXitty on this matter.**

am5 is inherently designed to make the cpu run at 95 celsius as often as possible. to that i say fuck no.

and again, I don't intend to upgrade this PC for 5+ years, at which point I will be doing am6 socket probably. i understand what you are saying, extending the life by even a few years more cause you can slot in the latest processor, etc. but i don't want to do that, i want to try to do a new build every 5-7 years or so.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Congratulations, you bought a brand new cpu in an already dead platform....
The 3D was never meant to attract new DIY pc builders.
It's the ultimate solution for the hunded of thousands of AM4 users out there.

If AMD announces similar support to AM5, no one sane would buy a 13000 Intel. Not even 14000...

Umm.....who gives a rats ass?

Seriously, why are you dumping money every year into PC upgrades? ESPECIALLY CPU? CPUs last a LONG time, by the time there is any noticeable change where an upgraded CPU will make a major, noticeable difference, youll be on a new platform anyway.

Yeah, there are people who bought AM4 and bought every CPU generation. These people are, objectively, morons if they think that was a good deal. Skylake may have only been 4 cores, but even today it works perfectly well for gaming. The only time it makes sense is if you are a enthusiast who has loads of disposable income and wants every CPU gen, even then it is still a waste of cash.

And you may notice something, that being the majority of 5000 series builds you see strutted around on the internet are using 500 series chipsets, not 300 or 400 series. Even those talking about the jump over ryzen 1000 or 2000 often ended up buying new motherboards. The "longevity" of the socket is overhyped.

raptor lake still beats x3d in 1% lows almost across the board. not sure what you on about bud

x3d decimates raptor lake in Factorio, and one other game. that's about it.

Hey bud, WTF are you talking about?

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Not sure where you get "ZOMG raptor lake wins all 1% tests" because that is objectively wrong. It looks to me like intel wins the 1% lows in 4 of the 12 games tested, not 11.

 

[Space Lynx]

Not sure where you get "ZOMG raptor lake wins all 1% tests" because that is objectively wrong. It looks to me like intel wins the 1% lows in 4 of the 12 games tested, not 11.

that's with a 4090 for review, which is known to not accurately depict lower resolutions. i'd recommend you read other reviews with a real world scenario gpu for that same resolution.

pcgamer review

nm i can't find the review i was looking for. oh well, im happy with my purchase. it saved me $300+ by sticking with a clearance sale on the ram and mobo, so eh.