Installed Windows 11 with TPM Disabled? Expect an Ugly Watermark on the Desktop

ThrashZone · Feb 28, 2023

Hi,
Looks like the watermark might come from updates coming from MS store so guess MS figure out a way to break incompatible hardware bypass after all lol
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Karti · Feb 28, 2023

Tomorrow said:
PSB is is a pure enterprise feature. I remember Moore's Law is Dead youtube channel discussing this with a server person in one of their Broken Silicon podcasts.

sadly it is not just enterprise feature

take ANY ryzen based Lenovo Think series desktop device - standard, SFF, tiny or whatevr

if you got it with Ryzen 4000 or higher, it has PSB enabled - so even a normal office PC will have its CPU locked... Already tested that in my company with ThinkCentre M75q Tiny based on Ryzen 4350GE - when one of those devices "died" duio the fail that happened in warehouse, we wanted to simply use that CPU in different device - puff, we cannot use it because CPU got locked

OEM partners are enabling PSB by default in their devices and not just enterprise segment - but even office segment

caroline! · Feb 28, 2023

Karti said:
What about AMD PSB? Locking physical hardware (CPU) to specific OEM motherboard
yea, good luck re-using that CPU or anything - enjoy more e-waste

And THIS is exactly why more people are finally quitting Windows for Linux..

I myself still love older Windows version... baa I can even go with Win10 without any issues
But Win11 is a joke - it is not a system, it is an online service forcing its user for some stupid requirements ;s

Wondering why Valve totally went away from MS Windows years ago and why they decided to fully utilize Linux based desktop system on SteamDeck instead of Windows...

Curious....

The "..." should include that as well. Locking CPUs is corporate insane greed in its purest form.

I use Linux but have to run a Windows VM in order to play games. It's easier than dual booting or losing my mind trying to get WINE or PoL to work.
As for Valve... where's number 3?

cyber-o · Mar 15, 2023

Ya, well, what y'all are saying is fine and dandy but I now cannot get Office 365 Outlook to login now without TPM...

eidairaman1 · Mar 16, 2023

I killed Windows Update and have had no issues

R-T-B · Mar 16, 2023

Karti said:
sadly it is not just enterprise feature

take ANY ryzen based Lenovo Think series desktop device - standard, SFF, tiny or whatevr

if you got it with Ryzen 4000 or higher, it has PSB enabled - so even a normal office PC will have its CPU locked... Already tested that in my company with ThinkCentre M75q Tiny based on Ryzen 4350GE - when one of those devices "died" duio the fail that happened in warehouse, we wanted to simply use that CPU in different device - puff, we cannot use it because CPU got locked

OEM partners are enabling PSB by default in their devices and not just enterprise segment - but even office segment

Karti said:
What about AMD PSB?

Tomorrow said:
PSB is is a pure enterprise feature. I remember Moore's Law is Dead youtube channel discussing this with a server person in one of their Broken Silicon podcasts.

It's PSP not PSB. And yes it's in consumer parts.

EDIT: No wait, PSB is a separate thing. Yes, it sounds bad.

bobbybluz · Mar 16, 2023

eidairaman1 said:
I killed Windows Update and have had no issues

Me too on all of my Win 10 & 11 PC's. WUB is a great thing.

ThrashZone · Mar 16, 2023

cyber-o said:
Ya, well, what y'all are saying is fine and dandy but I now cannot get Office 365 Outlook to login now without TPM...

Hi,
There's always lower versions 2016 pro plus or higher TPU has discount sells just about every month and or holidays
Office pro plus 2021 for 34.us this is not monthly lol
Oops that is with win-11 pro key to :cool:

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cyber-o · Mar 16, 2023

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
There's always lower versions 2016 pro plus or higher TPU has discount sells just about every month and or holidays
Office pro plus 2021 for 34.us this is not monthly lol
Oops that is with win-11 pro key to

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I tried one of those cheap deals years ago and the license worked for a while (6 months?) and then it died when MS shut it down.
I've ordered a TPU chip, arriving tomorrow, we'll see...

ThrashZone · Mar 16, 2023

cyber-o said:
I tried one of those cheap deals years ago and the license worked for a while (6 months?) and then it died when MS shut it down.
I've ordered a TPU chip, arriving tomorrow, we'll see...

Hi,
From here you tried one / Doubt it

cyber-o · Mar 16, 2023

No not there. It was years ago, been there, done that!

ThrashZone · Mar 16, 2023

cyber-o said:
No not there. It was years ago, been there, done that!

Hi,
They are legit, so is this forums offerings

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If they weren't for real these two sites would never entertain them :cool:

cyber-o · Mar 16, 2023

They are bulk/multi-user licenses and if/when MS catches them, they will stop functioning...

Mussels · Mar 18, 2023

you can get legit OEM licences for a single motherboard cheap and legitimately, or you can use sketchy sites that sell the same retail key many times that eventually get shut down (You dont notice until you need to re-activate)

The only thing even mildly concerning about this whole thread is outlook needing TPM - we can still run the OS without TPM, and we can use third party email clients but that's such an odd security to enforce for email

cyber-o · Mar 18, 2023

So, I ordered a TPM 2.0 chip from Amazon.ca for CAD$25.99, plugged it into the socket on my-not-very-old MSI Z590-A Pro mobo and everything Microsoft related now works as it used too before...

Ernest1ca · Mar 21, 2023

OneMoar said:
get the point microsoft
we don't want mandatory tpm

Microsoft is ignorant.

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