Kingston Reveals its New Fury Renegade G5 PCIe 5.0 NVMe SSD Pricing

[TheLostSwede]

Earlier this month, Kingston's new Fury Renegade G5 PCIe 5.0 NVMe SSD leaked, albeit without pricing, but now the company has revealed the pricing both in the US and the UK and to be frank, it's not all that competitively priced. As reported, the Fury Renegade G5 will come in three sizes, 1 TB, 2 TB and 4 TB and Kingston went with Silicon Motions SM2508 controller, rather than the more commonly used Phison E26, for its first PCIe 5.0 NVMe SSD. There's little between the two controllers in real world performance tests, but the SM2508 is faster on paper.

So what about the pricing then you ask? Well, the 1 TB SKU starts at US$203.99 or £182.16 (inc VAT) if you live in the UK. Considering you can get a 1 TB Crucial T705 for US$160 or a 1 TB Samsung 9100 Pro for US$199.99, it seems like Kingston's pricing is a bit off, since their Fury Renegade G5 is unlikely to offer any tangible performance advantages. The 2 TB SKU is listed at US$329.99 / £295.92, while the 4 TB SKU comes in at US$629.99 / £563.04, making the 4 TB SKU one of the most expensive 4 TB consumer NVMe SSDs in the market. Samsung's 9100 Pro retails for around US$550 in comparison, although the Crucial T705 comes in at US$687 in the 4 TB SKU. It seems like PCIe 5.0 NVMe SSD's, especially at larger storage sizes are going to continue to be a premium product for now.



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[PixelTech]

Who the heck is buying at these prices? Who's the customer? If 3.0 m.2 drives stop getting produced, then will we see price drops for 5.0? Haven't many 3.0 stopped being produced?
I'm enthusiast for high end PC gaming hardware, but not at these prices. And these drive prices are probably without tariff fees included.
The material cost can't be much. Most of the cost must come from development and first gen storage chips. Shipping is nothing, close to envelope pricing. Can't fool me.

 

[evernessince]

Who the heck is buying at these prices? Who's the customer? If 3.0 m.2 drives stop getting produced, then will we see price drops for 5.0? Haven't many 3.0 stopped being produced?
I'm enthusiast for high end PC gaming hardware, but not at these prices. And these drive prices are probably without tariff fees included.
The material cost can't be much. Most of the cost must come from development and first gen storage chips. Shipping is nothing, close to envelope pricing. Can't fool me.

I assume video editing / production / AI enthusiasts. This drive boasts an endurance of 1 PBW per TB of capacity. Competitors have 600 TBW per TB of capacity, so it's got 66% higher endurance.

 

[PSYCHOPATHiO]

I had 2 1TB older gen 3, unfortunately both died for some reason in less than 2 years of usage. Not going to fall for that anymore.

 

[chrcoluk]

I think for the most part the TBW is just a warranty spec, which may or may not have a link to the actual (potential) endurance capability of the device.
I have seen devices with a higher TBW, but less erase cycles, and vice versa.
I say potential as sadly stories still occasionally pop up of devices suddenly dieing way before their spec'd EOL.
I also have wondered when the day will come when gen 3 and 4 devices get pulled from the market, then we just get left with these heat generators at inflated pricing.
Interestingly I tested twitch leecher encoding and merging speeds on all 3 of the NVME in this PC, and the slowest (the intel gen 3), is almost the same speed as both the SN850X and 980 PRO even though the bench speed is proportionally a lot slower.

 

[PSYCHOPATHiO]

I've got 3 servers each running dual nvme 1TB drives ranging from samsung, gigabyte, lexar, also samsung & sandisk ssds. Under heavy loads and "abuse" non of them died except 2 viper by patriot, the kingston died in my personal PC

 

[chrcoluk]

I've got 3 servers each running dual nvme 1TB drives ranging from samsung, gigabyte, lexar, also samsung & sandisk ssds. Under heavy loads and "abuse" non of them died except 2 viper by patriot, the kingston died in my personal PC

Yeah for me only Kingston SSDs have died or partially died. So I am not one of the unlucky one's although I am usually careful about what I buy. Had some stability issues with a pair of MX500's I think due to being the variant that had the bad firmware. But the replacements have been fine with much lower write amplification.

I also manually never partition the whole disk (when its within my control), 10% left unpartitioned, and even then dont usually fill it right up.

 

[PixelTech]

I assume video editing / production / AI enthusiasts. This drive boasts an endurance of 1 PBW per TB of capacity. Competitors have 600 TBW per TB of capacity, so it's got 66% higher endurance.

I didn't know about the endurance factor. That's interesting.
I would think those video editors, ...production people", and AI enthusiasts would still be using HDDs for endurance. I think SATAIII speeds are still sufficient, right...? Those people usually have lots of RAM for finished product to move to a HDD?

 

[evernessince]

I didn't know about the endurance factor. That's interesting.
I would think those video editors, ...production people", and AI enthusiasts would still be using HDDs for endurance. I think SATAIII speeds are still sufficient, right...? Those people usually have lots of RAM for finished product to move to a HDD?

The speed of HDDs completely kill it for these applications. The faster the better, PCIe 5.0 is still a bottleneck for these workloads. I personally use an Intel Optane P5800X for training AI models and a Crucial T700 for the loading of AI models. If I had to use a HDD, it would probably slow down my workflow more than 15x, especially for the training as it's creating a backup every Epoch. Each backup ranges between 700 MB for a LORA and 16 GB for a full model finetune and we are talking 20+ backups per training session.