Stop Killing Games Petition Passes 1 Million-Signature Milestone—Now One Step Closer to EU Parliament

[Dr. Dro]

Sorry, wrong passport. Can't sign this thing. :/

Same here, despite my fierce support of it. I made sure to send this to all my friends who have EU citizenship, though, and have been doing since this petition first appeared. First signature I got for it was from a friend who was in equally strong support for it, about 11 months ago. I hope the EU parliament takes note that gaming is something that fosters global collaboration, friendship, and development into account. I'm not too concerned with live service games backing out, because most make so much money that they'll likely never shut down. Part of the proposal is to avoid games from shutting down when they go below 500K net profit a month, like non-Hoyo gachas do.

If it fails I might file such a petition in the Brazilian system (if one doesn't exist already, I definitely must look), but it's probably too weak for any global scale game dev to care. (Yep, someone made one. With a single signature in support.)

 

[Bomby569]

What about murika, don't they have a way to start something similar, to reach the Senate or something, idk?

In that situation the public would be free to alter/recode as needed to preserve.

i don't think that's how this work or will ever work, companies don't give out the code just because they go bankrupt. They would just sell the IP's, or the ones taking care of the liquidation of assets.
This is just about having the games available, I'm pretty sure no ones is going to star giving out the code to the games, or any country will realisticly agree to force them to do that.
At most they will make stuff like the MP part avaiable so anyone can mod it, but not the code for the all game.

 

[lexluthermiester]

What about murika, don't they have a way to start something similar, to reach the Senate or something, idk?

You're kidding? While it would be great, good luck getting such a good piece of law passed by our "lawmakers".

i don't think that's how this work or will ever work

That's how it works now. It's just in a grey area of the law.

companies don't give out the code just because they go bankrupt.

Are YOU kidding? Users don't need the original source code. Mods are made without the source all the time. Come man, you know that.

This is just about having the games available, I'm pretty sure no ones is going to star giving out the code to the games, or any country will realistically agree to force them to do that.

They would if the law said they were required to. But again, it's not required. Mods are made all the time without it.

 

[Veseleil]

I don't see my country in the list, so w/e. I still wish it success, it could benefit all of us.

 

[chrcoluk]

Are you okay? Buster wolf How does Steam even relate to the point of the movement? In fact, bloatware or not, Steam actually actively helps game preservation by the fact that any unlisted game is still available for download from their CDN without issue. And Valve themselves have consistently offered LAN and self hosted dedicated servers for all their releases. They are literally the opposite of the problem the petition is aimed at.

They even allow you to download old builds as well, which on direct distribution might get pulled, and not available on other platforms like consoles.

 

[Caring1]

I thought the title said STOP "killing' games, as in games with murderous content that normalizes the killing of others. But that would be stupid wouldn't it.

 

[_roman_]

I think the gamers nexus video was advertising. I got aware of that topic with the gamers nexus video recently.

music is a bad example. I paid too much for legal fees for buying several SSDs, HDDs, Smartphones, Android tablets. Than there is other fees also which goes into the music companies. i did not wrote the word mafia. Music should be all free available for free download because of those legal taxes on anything which has a storage in it. Additional there are incomes from radio and tv and tiktok and other "media" stations.

 

[Bomby569]

I think the gamers nexus video was advertising. I got aware of that topic with the gamers nexus video recently.

music is a bad example. I paid too much for legal fees for buying several SSDs, HDDs, Smartphones, Android tablets. Than there is other fees also which goes into the music companies. i did not wrote the word mafia. Music should be all free available for free download because of those legal taxes on anything which has a storage in it. Additional there are incomes from radio and tv and tiktok and other "media" stations.

In my country we also pay that shit tax on ssd's, hdd's, but you can always buy it from another country that doesn't have that crap.
it's really up to you if music is free or not, it sure is available for free. You decide i guess with your morality.

 

[Visible Noise]

Music should be all free available for free download because of those legal taxes on anything which has a storage in it.

Let me know when you start working for free.

Do you think the thousandth of a penny a musician got from you cdr tax will feed them?

 

[Macro Device]

Do you think the thousandth of a penny a musician got from you cdr tax will feed them?

To be fair, many musicians don't get anything from our purchases because they sell their rights out to billionaires.

 

[Vayra86]

Valve have been on record saying that in the extremely unlikely chance of Steam going down they do have some sort of contingency plan for their customers. Now, obviously we have no idea what that is and whether or not it would even be implemented, but they at the very least did publicly state that they aren’t by default going for “service down = your games gone” path.

Its what I want to believe too. Also I think they kinda have to have something also for overall trust in digital distribution. I mean, the licenses are still paid, contracts signed.

But there are no guarantees

Let me know when you start working for free.

Do you think the thousandth of a penny a musician got from you cdr tax will feed them?

No, going on stage does. You know, being an actual muscian beyond writing or producing some tunes, which frankly anyone can do. If you have to make a living off this, surely we can expect that right? Musicians are not in financial trouble. Ever. Either you are good enough to get noticed and make bank. Or you suck and nobody will miss a thing anyway.

Its a completely weird idea to say that everyone who picks up a guitar should auto-generate enough cash to stop working, right?

And yes, a lot of creative or hobby-like professions are like this. They are not supposed to be money trees, they need to be fueled by passion and intrinsic motivation instead. Its like modding for games. When money becomes the main motivator, game modders will make paid Horse Armor instead of Fallout London, basically.

To be fair, many musicians don't get anything from our purchases because they sell their rights out to billionaires.

Also this.