About ThrottleStop

[AnasAtfeh]

Hello everyone.

I have a question about my ROG STRIX G18.

RTX 4080 Laptop Gpu​

Intel® Core™ i9-13980HX​

Ram 32 GB DDR5 5600mhz​

NVMe Samsung SSD 990 PRO 1TB​

NVMe WD PC SN560 SDDPNQE-1T00-1002​

CPU Boost on Efficient Aggressive

I recently refilled the liquid metal on the processor and graphics card and added a little Grizzly.

I was getting 20,000 points in Cinebench R23.

Now it's to 34,000.

The same goes for 3D Mark. It was 15,000 points.

Now it's 19,000 points, which is good.

But I've seen that it can reach even higher points, even excellent. How can I improve it further to get full performance?

Using ThrottleStop

1- CPU Core Offset Voltage - 144.5 / IccMax 511.75

2- Intel GPU Offset Voltage - 100.6 / IccMax 511.75

3- CPU P Cache Offset Voltage - 170.9 / IccMax 511.75

4- IGPU Unslice Offset Voltage - 100.6 / IccMax 511.75

5- System Agent Default

6- CPU E Cache Default

There is also a question about
Limit Reasons: What are these yellow alerts?
What does the first option, Thermal, mean? How can I fix it so it doesn't appear?

 

[unclewebb]

I usually set the P Core and P Cache offsets equally. Some people get better results when setting the core offset to a bigger number compared to the cache. Hardly anyone sets the P cache to a bigger number compared to the core like you are doing. Your results look good so do lots of testing and use whatever works best.

Limit Reasons

Any box in Limit Reasons that is red indicates that throttling is in progress. After throttling is finished, the box will turn to yellow. A yellow box indicates that there was some previous throttling.

Thermal throttling in yellow means that your CPU reached 95°C at some point. That is the thermal throttling temperature that your CPU is set to in your screenshot. High temperatures can happen when Windows is booting up before ThrottleStop first starts. These throttling records are recorded within the CPU. As soon as ThrottleStop starts, it will check if any throttling flags have been triggered.

V MAX throttling happens when the CPU voltage is too high. If you do not want this type of throttling to happen, clear the V-Max Stress box in the FIVR window. Disabling this safety feature might be dangerous.

I prefer to use the older 0x116 microcode. It seems some of Intel's latest microcode versions that are supposed to fix the degrading CPU issues are simply jacking the voltage up. I also limit the max turbo multiplier of my 14900HX to 52 instead of the default 58. This reduces maximum light load performance and it also reduces the maximum voltage. Less performance is bad but in this case, the difference will probably not be noticed. I am willing to sacrifice some performance for the improved long term health of my CPU.

How can I fix it so it doesn't appear?

Intel's 13th and 14th Gen HX processors put out a crazy amount of heat if you try to run them at their full rated speed. Most laptops are not designed to dissipate the amount of heat these CPUs can produce. Thermal throttling is inevitable. You would have to reduce the turbo power limits and performance significantly if you wanted to try and get rid of all thermal throttling. Intel CPUs can run reliably at high temperatures so it is best to ignore a little bit of thermal throttling.

 

[AnasAtfeh]

If you mean the maximum, I created a new category called "efficient" in G-helper and set the fans to these limits, with the maximum being 95 degrees. For the rest of the details, how do I determine the turbo limit and what I should set in the PL1 & PL2 settings? The maximum processor limit is 175 watts.

and How do I use the code instead of turning off V MAX from throttle step without causing problems? Please guide me because I have no experience with this program. I just copied the settings undervolt in throttlestop of another person who has an i9 14900hx.

 

[unclewebb]

I have never used G-helper. I have no idea how G-helper and ThrottleStop interact with each other. It might be best for you to only use G-helper. It is not a good idea to have two similar programs writing different values to the same CPU registers. Search other forums. Perhaps you can find someone knowledgeable about G-helper. Ask them if they are using G-helper and ThrottleStop together or if they are only using G-helper.

If you set the power limits in G-helper to 175W and your computer is constantly overheating then lower these power limits. There is no way for me to know what will work best for your laptop, your environment and the fan speeds you are using. This will require you to do some trial and error testing.

When you update the BIOS version, this automatically updates the microcode version that the CPU is using. This can change the default CPU voltage curve. I have never used the latest microcode version on my HX CPU so I cannot recommend anything. V Max throttling is probably insignificant. Leave the V Max Stress box checked if you are worried about damaging your CPU. I have no worries. When I damage my stuff, it gives me an opportunity to buy new stuff.

 

[AnasAtfeh]

Oh your right and regarding this menu, the default setting for TURBO TIME LIMIT was 56. Any other download level goes directly to 48. I can't set it to 52. Is this a problem? And regarding the mmio sync option, should I turn it off or on?

 

[unclewebb]

I can't set it to 52

The left side of the ThrottleStop TPL window shows that this is set to 48. This usually defaults to 56. The next value in ThrottleStop is 48. I do not think it is possible to set this to 52.

Are you still using G helper? If you are using both G helper and ThrottleStop to set the turbo power limits then both programs might have a fight over which program is in control of these limits. If you want to use these two programs together, I would check Disable Controls in ThrottleStop to avoid any fights.

the mmio sync option, should I turn it off or on?

If you are using G helper then I would not use the ThrottleStop Sync MMIO function.

I have no idea how G-helper and ThrottleStop interact with each other.