Difficult mobo upgrade decision

[jcmax]

you dont neccessarily need two ide, just have one thing as slave and another as master, unless you have like 3 ide things

 

[jcmax]

soz just noticed you have 4 ide things

 

[alexp999]

np

Anyone else on here got foxconn MB's?

 

[allen337]

save a little more ~~ http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Comp...um+PE+Socket+775+Motherboard+?productId=24038 .


~~ http://www.ebuyer.com/product/126692/show_product_specifications .


~~ http://www.foxconnchannel.com/product/Motherboards/detail_spec.aspx?ID=en-us0000184 .


best I could find

 

[alexp999]

thanks but tbh, im not looking at crossfire any time soon. Just wanted to get a value board to keep me goin a bit longer by opening up the bottle necks.

What you think of foxconn btw?

Cheers.

 

[allen337]

tbh i would never buy ECS,foxxconn,asrock. kinda like opening your wallet up and letting the wind take the cash away If your wanting a stable motherboard just save a few more weeks,months, or however long it takes and buy yourself a nice ASUS/GIGABYTE/MSI/DFI/ABIT/INTEL motherboard. I know what its like to want it now, but, it will be worthless in 2 months. ALLEN

 

[Grings]

Foxconn are pretty good actually, however that particular board (the 945) isnt, i'd say your best bet would be tatty_ones p5ne-sli, or get a few of these and not worry about how many ide sockets a board has

 

[alexp999]

Foxconn are pretty good actually, however that particular board (the 945) isnt, i'd say your best bet would be tatty_ones p5ne-sli, or get a few of these and not worry about how many ide sockets a board has

How come the 945 is bad?

Cheers.

 

[Grings]

Its an older chipset, and dosent overclock well at all, plus as theyre only used in low end boards nowadays, the boards just arent designed to overclock (i really cant see those foxconn ones having much, if anything in the way of o/c settings)

Those 'dongles' i posted a link to are very good though, i run one of my hard drives on one and it gets full ata133 speed, i'd just get a couple of those, and a cheap board with a newer chipset, gigabyte's p31 for example costs the same as most 945's, but is better featured and can clock newer chips (even quads) to over 450 fsb

 

[alexp999]

Its an older chipset, and dosent overclock well at all, plus as theyre only used in low end boards nowadays, the boards just arent designed to overclock (i really cant see those foxconn ones having much, if anything in the way of o/c settings)

Those 'dongles' i posted a link to are very good though, i run one of my hard drives on one and it gets full ata133 speed, i'd just get a couple of those, and a cheap board with a newer chipset, gigabyte's p31 for example costs the same as most 945's, but is better featured and can clock newer chips (even quads) to over 450 fsb

Thanks but would you say on OC of 300Mhz on an e6600 is ambitious for the foxconn then? It has far more extensive OC adjustments compared to my asrock, I cannot even change voltages atm!

Also I want to make it clear, I have decided as I do not have the money, that i will get a board as good as my Asrock in terms of quality but that will free up the bottle necks the asrock is causing now.
Then maybe this time next year, I will look at better boards and crossfire. As I say the foxconn's quality will be on par with the Asrock surely, and an intel chip over a via has to be better?

Cheers.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Thanks but would you say on OC of 300Mhz on an e6600 is ambitious for the foxconn then? It has far more extensive OC adjustments compared to my asrock, I cannot even change voltages atm!

Also I want to make it clear, I have decided as I do not have the money, that i will get a board as good as my Asrock in terms of quality but that will free up the bottle necks the asrock is causing now.
Then maybe this time next year, I will look at better boards and crossfire. As I say the foxconn's quality will be on par with the Asrock surely, and an intel chip over a via has to be better?

Cheers.

You may even find on a 945 board that there are not any overclocking options, or very few in any case, as I said, the 945 was NEVER designed to take a C2D, it was developed well before the C2D was released and therefore it's quite possible you may not get any Mhz out of it.

You can always but a IDE > SATA convertor for around £6 anyways so dont get too hung up on the native double IDE channels, go for the decent bargain priced board and convert IDE to SATA if necessary!
You have 27minutes to buy this off E Bay, excellent board.....look at the price!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Gigabyte-GA-9...yZ108978QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[alexp999]

You may even find on a 945 board that there are not any overclocking options, or very few in any case, as I said, the 945 was NEVER designed to take a C2D, it was developed well before the C2D was released and therefore it's quite possible you may not get any Mhz out of it.

You can always but a IDE > SATA convertor for around £6 anyways so dont get too hung up on the native double IDE channels, go for the decent bargain priced board and convert IDE to "SATA if necessary!
You have 27minutes to buy this off E Bay, excellent board.....look at the price!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Gigabyte-GA-9...yZ108978QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Fair enough, but I was under the impression that all of the latest 945G chips work with the Core2Duo
This is on intel's site:
"Platforms based on the Intel® 945G Express Chipset, combined with the Intel® Core™2 Duo processor, deliver innovative features and new benefits for both home and business."

As I have said, the e6600 is on foxconn's support list and I have been through the manual and seen lots of OC options unlike the one I have now.
As i say, I have about £30 and I want a board to replace my Asrock open up the bottle necks and keep me going another year or so.
What would I get out of a chipset better than the 945G?

Cheers.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Fair enough, but I was under the impression that all of the latest 945G chips work with the Core2Duo
This is on intel's site:
"Platforms based on the Intel® 945G Express Chipset, combined with the Intel® Core™2 Duo processor, deliver innovative features and new benefits for both home and business."

As I have said, the e6600 is on foxconn's support list and I have been through the manual and seen lots of OC options unlike the one I have now.
As i say, I have about £30 and I want a board to replace my Asrock open up the bottle necks and keep me going another year or so.
What would I get out of a chipset better than the 945G?

Cheers.

Of course they are on the support list! the point is, they only have support through a new BIOS write (instruction set), they dont have the architectural hardware support because they were developed before the C2D's release (so not a "native" board) so therefore the risk of VERY poor overclocking is multiplied.

Just about any S775 chipset is better than the 945 cause they are "native" to the C2D.....965's, 975's, P35's, x38.....they are all considerably better boards than the 945 coupled with the C2D because they were manufactured around the C2D.

 

[alexp999]

Hi, internet went down, would have replied sooner.
I read somewhere that the 945 chips were recoded to take the Core 2 Duo's as it had to be hardware based, not software to accept the dual core processors.
Even if it is poor, surely it will be better than what I have now? I'm not looking to reach 450FSB I was aiming for about 300.
Would that be too much to ask of this board?
Anybody got this or a board with a 945(g) chipset and running an intel core2duo?

Cheers.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Hi, internet went down, would have replied sooner.
I read somewhere that the 945 chips were recoded to take the Core 2 Duo's as it had to be hardware based, not software to accept the dual core processors.
Even if it is poor, surely it will be better than what I have now? I'm not looking to reach 450FSB I was aiming for about 300.
Would that be too much to ask of this board?
Anybody got this or a board with a 945(g) chipset and running an intel core2duo?

Cheers.

perhaps it would be better, all I am saying is that you are taking a risk with older technology and at the end of the day, the motherboard is the most important single ingredient. I appreciate you have a limited budget but dont be too hasty, look around E Bay, there are deals to be had, maybe you can pick up a 975 or 650i bargain around your price bracket, personally I would continue looking for a few days before I went 945

 

[allen337]

perhaps it would be better, all I am saying is that you are taking a risk with older technology and at the end of the day, the motherboard is the most important single ingredient. I appreciate you have a limited budget but dont be too hasty, look around E Bay, there are deals to be had, maybe you can pick up a 975 or 650i bargain around your price bracket, personally I would continue looking for a few days before I went 945

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