Phenom 9850 Black Edition for sale

cdawall · Mar 16, 2008

this thread turned into fanboy bullshit please get back on topic

SirKeldon · Mar 16, 2008

I wasn't acting as a fanboy as i said, so i apologize if i did it for your eyes, truly

i respect AMD and i respect Intel, i used and still using both brands and they made and will make good products ... and sure they'll keep doing for suring us the entertainment, actually with a new processor bringing out into the market it's impossible not to compare it with another ones they're actually in, that are the changes that makes this industry keep moving, what the people say about the real performance of the stuff, what is the arch living inside, what makes possible this and another ... from my part, i was just healthy discussing, that's the way everyone learns more about how these things works.

After all, the new Phenom's are a new-day for AMD and i really hope they'll kick ass as they did on the past, again i bet for AMD cause i trust them yet, i like their philosophy of how they do the things and probably how they will do it in the future ... but at the same time i don't forget the Intel's actual force which is damn good, it's as history, you can't understand present if you don't know the past, so i think it was not a fanboy discussing at all, just talking about facts, at least as i said, from my part.

Again my apologizes to you cdawall :toast:

edit: and my apologizes too if i disturbed someone with the other posts as well

3870x2 · Mar 16, 2008

You know what is worse than a fanboy? blaming someone of being a fanboy... that annoys me more. Any person is allowed to be a fan and argue their product...

WarEagleAU · Mar 16, 2008

Though it all, people was able to clock the 9600 (with TLB errata) till 3Ghz, which is a 30% overclock

Where did you see that? Id be interested in finding out how that was done. From most reviews and owner reviews that Ive read, youd be hard pressed to get even the 9600 BE 200 - 400mhz above stock clocks without a bunch of errors. In fact, Maximum PC even had trouble with their engineering sample and later public samples.

SirKeldon · Mar 16, 2008

3870x2 said:
You know what is worse than a fanboy? blaming someone of being a fanboy... that annoys me more. Any person is allowed to be a fan and argue their product...

We should all be fans of the technology and i think we actually are :toast:

WarEagleAU said:
Where did you see that? Id be interested in finding out how that was done. From most reviews and owner reviews that Ive read, youd be hard pressed to get even the 9600 BE 200 - 400mhz above stock clocks without a bunch of errors. In fact, Maximum PC even had trouble with their engineering sample and later public samples.

I read about a couple storys of people reaching the 3Ghz mark but not stable at all, just in the 2,8-2,9 barrier were stable, i think it was on AMD Official forums. But on this article you can see how they got the 3Ghz stable.

gOJDO · Mar 16, 2008

cdawall said:
this thread turned into fanboy bullshit please get back on topic

Why the hell do you think that our conversation is a fanboy BS? We were only discussing, and mentioning two rivals doesn't mean we are fanboys which are going to rip off each other! I must agree that we were OT, but our input in this thread is more worth than your "fanboy BS" comment.

On topic, there is nothing to be discussed. There aren't anywhere 9850 to buy, nor there were on the e-shop linked on the first post of this thread. Don't expect Phenom B3's this month.

erocker · Mar 16, 2008

Yeah, please stay on topic. This fanboy crap has been running rampant again lately, and it gets very tiresome.

STAY ON TOPIC!!

phanbuey · Mar 16, 2008

what topic? that some e-tailer started taking preorders of a chip theyre not gonna ship for the better part of a month? whoop-de-doo

a111087 · Mar 16, 2008

WarEagleAU said:
Where did you see that? Id be interested in finding out how that was done. From most reviews and owner reviews that Ive read, youd be hard pressed to get even the 9600 BE 200 - 400mhz above stock clocks without a bunch of errors. In fact, Maximum PC even had trouble with their engineering sample and later public samples.

from all the reviews i've seen, about 30% got to 3ghz, but obviously most of them did not

btarunr · Mar 16, 2008

phanbuey said:
what topic? that some e-tailer started taking preorders of a chip theyre not gonna ship for the better part of a month? whoop-de-doo

^

Speaking closely to the topic, when the Phenom 9500 first hit e-tailers and bumped into it, I almost screamed "hurray! Finally!!" then hopped onto Google, searched for reviews, got into one.
My expressions changed from :eek:

to

to

to

to

in a matter of 10 minutes. Actually it should have taken less time.

ShadowFold · Mar 16, 2008

btarunr said:
^

Speaking closely to the topic, when the Phenom 9500 first hit e-tailers and bumped into it, I almost screamed "hurray! Finally!!" then hopped onto Google, searched for reviews, got into one.
My expressions changed from to to to to to in a matter of 10 minutes. Actually it should have taken less time.

Yea when I saw reviews I was like.. what the hell. How does a AMD dual core beat it! then started raging.

3870x2 · Mar 17, 2008

yeah, there was a lot of positive hype for the 9xxx phenom series, and....fail. ATI is currently on the upside though!

InfDamarvel · Mar 17, 2008

Is there any reviews on this new stepping yet or is this just a bunch of talk about nothing.

gOJDO · Mar 17, 2008

InfDamarvel said:
this is just a bunch of talk about nothing.

that's right. According to my sources, don't expect B3's until April and don't expect them in big quantities.

3870x2 · Mar 17, 2008

Think they will make any difference?

gOJDO · Mar 17, 2008

3870x2 said:
Think they will make any difference?

lower power consumption and higher clocks (& OC) for sure and of course the TLB bug fixed.
The architecture will remain same since it is the same revision (read same circuit design), but only a new stepping. In other words, the performance at same frequency will remain the same as the performance of B2's without the TLB bug patch.

I only wonder about the NB & L3 speeds. If they can push it above 2GHz, then we'll start seeing some of the benefits of the so called "native" quadcore.

cisco kidd · Mar 17, 2008

is a 9500 B2 oem worth it for $155 shipped, I do not care about the tlb issue, i need a quad now and if I can get 2.5 out of the 9500 I think that is good enough, it would still be better than a tri core and finding a b3 right now is a bit hard

so my question is for the price of 155 and 170 shipped for a 9600 is it worth it even if they are b2's

trt740 · Mar 17, 2008

cisco kidd said:
is a 9500 B2 oem worth it for $155 shipped, I do not care about the tlb issue, i need a quad now and if I can get 2.5 out of the 9500 I think that is good enough, it would still be better than a tri core and finding a b3 right now is a bit hard

so my question is for the price of 155 and 170 shipped for a 9600 is it worth it even if they are b2's

yes i would say it is you cannot buy a 6400+ for that.

jbunch07 · Mar 17, 2008

i hope this cpu does well, im either going to by this or the other 4xphenom BE...this would be more easy on my wallet though!

cisco kidd · Mar 17, 2008

trt740 said:
yes i would say it is you cannot buy a 6400+ for that.

Kind of what I am thinking I currently have a 5000 BE running 3.3 using a freezone cpu tec cooler. having sold my past intel xeon x3210 and 680i sli to save some cash I downgraded to the 5000

I am not comparing the 2 systems but the xeon at 3.4 flat out rocked, I do not expect the phenom to be the same just looking for better ability to address the multitasking I do with a quad over the dual 5000 I have found the video editing to be slower especially when other programs are running in the background as well. guess I can sell my BE5000 for 75 covering half the cost.......

jbunch07 · Mar 17, 2008

i wonder why they released the quads before the tri, or is the tri just a quad with one of the cores disabled? im not saying this i read that on another thread.

Edit: i dont think AMD would just disable one of the cores but i am curious why this didn't come out before the quad cores

3870x2 · Mar 17, 2008

i doubt it is with a core disabled, it is probably a gamer chip for high performance without having to waste you money on a useless four-core.

gOJDO · Mar 17, 2008

jbunch07 said:
i wonder why they released the quads before the tri, or is the tri just a quad with one of the cores disabled? im not saying this i read that on another thread.

The three core is just a quad with 1(defective) core disabled. AMD needed enough quads with defective core before they could release the three cores.

Edit: i dont think AMD would just disable one of the cores but i am curious why this didn't come out before the quad cores

They have an option to sell the quads with 1 defective core as three cores and earn something or to throw them away and earn nothing.

cdawall · Mar 17, 2008

the way i see it is this is exactly the same as the original K8 chips clawhammers C0 chips were hot, sucked at oc'ing, and had a terrible memory controller. this looks alot like K10 B2 chips hopefully B3 will be just like the CG chips that kicked ass and made K8 so nice

SirKeldon · Mar 17, 2008

cdawall said:
the way i see it is this is exactly the same as the original K8 chips clawhammers C0 chips were hot, sucked at oc'ing, and had a terrible memory controller. this looks alot like K10 B2 chips hopefully B3 will be just like the CG chips that kicked ass and made K8 so nice

Let's hope so! I want to "burn" my board with these new Phenoms and probably with the 45nm ones too, it will be logical, when tons of things had gone that bad for them in the last 2 years ... i think it's time to do it just good and better, there's no other chance for them cause their excuses are farting the whole market ... and i'm sure they're gonna kick ass again, they have to do it :rockout:

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Phenom 9850 Black Edition for sale

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where the hell are my stars

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