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Microsoft to Unveil DirectX 11 Later this Month

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There isnt even a DX10 only game out yet, certainly nothing has been "built for" DX10 from the ground up. how long is it going to take for DX 11 titles to come out? jesh
 

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It makes very good sense that MS updates their API's.
If you do not code, then you would not be aware of some of the shortcomings of the existing ones.
If MS wants to keep developers using DirectX, they have to keep it in sync with modern graphics card hardware and evolving technologies.

I, for one, am thankful that MS continually updates their .net framework and other APIs.
It makes my life easier when they polish their code.

+1. Totally agree. Although MS can be annoyingly trying at times, they do a decent job updating. Bring on DX11........
 

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I can understand why MS released Dx10 as Vista only. There were significant changes in the core way that these API were handled, and it was not worth thier time to try to rewite all that for XP.

However, they erred in the fact that neither Vista nor Dx10 made any appreciable difference in gaming performance or image quality. There was no compelling reason to go to Vista just for Dx10.

If they want to really push Dx11, then there must be an advantage for the end-user to upgrade to new hardware that supports it. This is a difficult proposition for MS as most people are happy with what Dx9 gave them in terms of speed and image quality. A bit more eye-candy is not going to cut it. It will have to be a large leap forward in what the end-user sees on his/her screen.
 

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I can understand why MS released Dx10 as Vista only. There were significant changes in the core way that these API were handled, and it was not worth thier time to try to rewite all that for XP.

However, they erred in the fact that neither Vista nor Dx10 made any appreciable difference in gaming performance or image quality. There was no compelling reason to go to Vista just for Dx10.

If they want to really push Dx11, then there must be an advantage for the end-user to upgrade to new hardware that supports it. This is a difficult proposition for MS as most people are happy with what Dx9 gave them in terms of speed and image quality. A bit more eye-candy is not going to cut it. It will have to be a large leap forward in what the end-user sees on his/her screen.

agreed here as well;

just for example, there was a near noticeable difference between DX9 Crysis and DX10 Crysis . . .

for come forthcoming games, though, I might be tempted to finally install the new OS . . . STALKER: Clear Sky and (FEAR) Project Origin will probably push me in that direction.


I think, also, from a gaming stand point, as well as an audio standpoint - Vista was horrible with audio, especially gaming audio. There have been many audio issues and headaches with the new OS, and many software work arounds . . . and we all know what work arounds do for latencies and stability :rolleyes:
 

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I see a revolving door of upgrading. If they didn't bite with DX10 they won't bite with DX11. This may force more people to go console.
 

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I see a revolving door of upgrading. If they didn't bite with DX10 they won't bite with DX11. This may force more people to go console.

Why would it? Its not like you HAVE to have DX11..
 
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I see a revolving door of upgrading. If they didn't bite with DX10 they won't bite with DX11. This may force more people to go console.

Revolving door of upgrading? Welcome to computers. :D
 

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i dont care what DX version comes out as it wont be utilized until a year later, my Card of Choice is 4870, im tired of waiting for this and that, im sure when AM3 CPus hit the shelf the 4870 will be lower in price.
 
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MS must be hoping that DX11 will improve sales of Vista. If DX11 pisses gamers off and they buy consoles its still a win for MS.
 

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MS must be hoping that DX11 will improve sales of Vista. If DX11 pisses gamers off and they buy consoles its still a win for MS.

How? I could bring home a PS3 (or say PS4 if that comes along).
 
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i wanna go. :( im in seattle.
 

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what a rip man!!!! god wth is micro soft thinking? oh well i guess they know what ppl want!!! or shall i say they know what they want....MONEY!!!!
 

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i dont care what DX version comes out as it wont be utilized until a year later, my Card of Choice is 4870, im tired of waiting for this and that, im sure when AM3 CPus hit the shelf the 4870 will be lower in price.
Hell ya Brother!!!! you said it!!!!:toast:
 
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How? I could bring home a PS3 (or say PS4 if that comes along).
Yes, but that comes down to personal preference. Between PS3 and Xbox 360 many might go for the Xbox because of the lower price and the availability of pirated games.
 

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Yes, but that comes down to personal preference. Between PS3 and Xbox 360 many might go for the Xbox because of the lower price and the availability of pirated games.

Here, not everywhere :laugh:

You can't base "MS will still win" argument on that.
 
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everywhere else most people have already bought it. People will still use windows+ increase in console sales even slightly.
On a side note, I say Vista's adoption has been decreased as it is harder to pirate it now
 

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no need to care whatever they released dx11, dx12 such things I'm sticking to my windows xp ignoring all type of shit Microsoft is doing....
 
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where is the dx10 , what is improve in dx10 to make necessary need to dx11, there is a far space between dx8 and dx9 right , but what is the difference between d10 and and dx9 , my opinion is the dx10 release to support vista and make users change xp , but still xp smooth not like heavy vista
 
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Source: http://ictnieuws.info/news.php?readmore=19
 

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Obviously they used some CGI firm to make that DX11 frame up. There's no DX11 hardware. At least those Crysis frame we were seeing before GeForce 8 came along, were made by Crytek on GeForce 8 cards.
 

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I don't know what is more scarier Shader Model 5 or his doll like eyes.

- Christine
 

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I don't know what is more scarier Shader Model 5 or his doll like eyes.

- Christine

:roll:

at least the beard isn't a stupid texture anymore (that looks like wall-moss at high resolutions w/o filtering).
 

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I don't know what is more scarier Shader Model 5 or his doll like eyes.
+1 for doll eyes. IMO DX11 will be an optimized version of DX10, not much better looking but faster and smoother. 10.1 couldn't do that, but with the support of NVIDIA it will happen. DX11 comes for Vista too so why should I complain? :confused:
E: what the hell is wall-moss (i'm a finn)
 
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