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    How will Artificial Intelligence change the nature of jobs?

    It's important to imagine what system would be most efficient... since it's the efficient system that survives. Taxing businesses at a high level to support a bunch of useless humans so they can consume and pollute and cause problems... is not efficient. The wealthy can have AI do and build what...
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    How will Artificial Intelligence change the nature of jobs?

    ^^^ This Computers are getting more sophisticated all the time. Before long they will be "smart" enough to make some human workers obsolete... meaning that the person has *no* viable task that they can perform better or at a lower cost than a machine. These people will be unemployable, and as...
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    NVIDIA Announces GeForce RTX 3050 Ti Mobile and RTX 3050 Mobile

    RTX 3050 Ti has 2,560 CUDA cores, 80 tensor cores, 20 RT cores, and 4 GB of GDDR6 memory across the chip's 128-bit wide memory bus. GTX 1650 Ti has 1,024 cores, 0 tensor, 0 RT, and 4 GB of GDDR6 with a 128-bit bus. RTX 2070 has 2,304 cores, 288 tensor, 36 RT, and 8GB GDDR6 with a 256 bit bus. So...
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    Google that error and see if you can learn anything. From what I can see of the graph it appears to be applying your OC. Try running Heaven in windowed mode and use HWinfo for monitoring while it runs. I'd start with something smaller like a +100 OC. If +2000 is stable on vram, that's pretty...
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    You don't appear to be using the scan or the generated curve. Any reason for that? Leave the voltage slider alone... you don't need it. 50W is probably a hard limit on your laptop. But it would be odd if it was frequency locked.
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    Well... I just did the TSBench long test and discovered that my processor also power throttles.... but only down to 65W, which is close to the ~69W it uses at 12x 4.3GHz. It kicked in after ~110s when max temperature was ~90C. If I get bored I may look around in the bios and see if there is a...
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    It makes sense that the GF75 would have poorer cooling ability... but again there is the weirdness of you only being able to get 4.1GHz at 67W even with a bigger UV than mine. The 45W TDP doesn't mean anything apparently. But I wonder if the 54W 3.8GHz limit (after ~60 sec?) is unique to your...
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    You're getting a very good score! Almost makes me wish I'd sprung for the Raider 2070 Super when it was on sale. You are now 26% faster than my OC score. CPU score is basically the same. One thing I noticed is that your vram clock is quite slow... even slower than mine, and I have the crappy...
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    If I put in a higher number it reverts to 47 when I save it.
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    My first thought is to try without the UV settings and see if it still occurs.
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    Don't worry... it has little affect on performance.
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    GPU overclock won't make any more heat. You are limited to 115W just like me. You'll just get more frequency at a lower voltage. In the GPU tests the CPU isn't taxed at all, and the GPU temperatures are easy to keep in control. On mine OCing the Vram was the most performance/watt boost by a lot...
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    You might try just tilting the back up a cm or two to let air flow more easily. Curious if you've done any testing on your 2070 Super... I'd like to know how much faster it is vs my 2060, and how much you're able to OC it.
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    The lower score might have been from something besides C23 using the CPU... but that wouldn't explain the temperature throttling. Maybe it was just very close. What was the temp when you got the 8830?
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    I'm not running Dragon Center. CPU is controlled by TS, GPU is controlled by AB, and fans are controlled by Silent Option. But if I was using DC I'd set it to max performance for benchmarks. I set the other voltage options in TC the same as my cache; -.06V. Speed Shift EPP = 0. Speedstep isn't...
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    Just did since you mentioned it. It dropped the frequency from 4.3 to 4.2GHz. -Boost. Put my UV back and ran the random TS Bench a few times on 1 and 12 threads. No problem there. Freezes right away if I try to change the cache ratio from 4.7 to 4.3 though.
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    Yes, that's the number I changed. I could expect that raising it might cause an issue, but lowering? Sure enough, I set all my voltages back to default, and no issues changing it to 43 then ;) I ran TS Bench single core a few times with 43 and 47 and there appears to be ~0% difference in speed...
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    I think I have updates turned off... I'm curious how much difference it makes in performance... or why Intel changed it? I tried setting the ratio to 43 and TS locked up my computer (twice).
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    I get >8800 in C23. Max temp 91-92C. All cores 4.3GHz. Ring/LLC at 4.0GHz... is this what you are looking at? If so then ours are running the same despite mine have a higher ratio. On single core Ring/LLC hit a max of 4.6, but it was ~4.35 on average. Score was 1265. If higher fans help your...
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    Mine says 8-47 also, and I'm pretty sure I didn't touch that. Don't know what it means.
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    In the 69W run you are power throttling at 4.0GHz, while I reach 4.3GHz with that reading. The reason for that may be what unclewebb stated regarding the "approximation" of power readings. Cooling wouldn't account for it. Your temperature is also reaching 95C which could be a cooling issue. I've...
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    Your CPU will run at 4.3GHz in that test unless something is throttling it. It will be either a power limit or temperature limit. >80W sounds like no UV to me. If you set both PLs to 69W and get ~4.0GHz, that also sounds like no UV is being applied.
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    Ya, the cache is the important one to get right IME. Setting the core an extra .1v lower than cache works fine. You don't *need* to disable Dragon Center or other MSI stuff... it was on during my initial UV. You can worry about that later if you want. Just make sure it's on extreme or whatever...
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    I disabled Dragon Center and the main MSI process (don't recall the name) simply because they are unnecessary. TS and AB and Silent Option give you great control over speed, frequency, temperature, fan speed, noise, etc. A cooling pad will help your CPU performance if you are thermal...
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    Laptop undervolting and overclocking results... i7-10750H RTX 2060... MSI Raider GE75

    That's kinda surprising... what game? And what is the CPU doing when it crashes? No GPU mods? This person claims they got a -.140 cache with a 10750H https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/i7-10750h-msi-gs66-10se-044us-how-can-i-lock-this-frequency-core-multiplier-to-50.278677/
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