• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

$1000 CAD build advice

david2

New Member
Joined
Jan 25, 2013
Messages
6 (0.00/day)
I'm planning on building a new system, it will be used for CAD(SolidWorks, Zemax, etc), maybe PhotoShop/Illustrator, watching HD movies, and other general computing tasks. It will not be used for gaming. I do not plan on overclocking. The main objectives are to run the programs I listed, be compatible with new programs as long as possible, use high quality upgradable parts and keep the cost reasonable(<$1000).

I was wondering what people thought of the components I've come up with and if there are any incompatibilities or suggestions people have.

I also need advice on a cheap (~$20) DVD player/writer and was wondering if I should wait on the Quadro 600 for the new Kepler chip?

Lian Li PC-7H case $120
Asus P8Z77-V LX motherboard $115
Intel i5-3470 $190
PNY VCQ600-PB Quadro 600 $150
Corsair 1x8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM $48
Crucial M4 256GB SSD $170
Seasonic G-550 power supply $86

Thanks,
David
 

de.das.dude

Pro Indian Modder
Joined
Jun 13, 2010
Messages
8,755 (1.74/day)
Location
Stuck in a PC. halp.
System Name Monke | Work Thinkpad| Old Monke
Processor Ryzen 5600X | Ryzen 5500U | FX8320
Motherboard ASRock B550 Extreme4 | ? | Asrock 990FX Extreme 4
Cooling 240mm Rad | Not needed | hyper 212 EVO
Memory 2x16GB DDR4 3600 Corsair RGB | 16 GB DDR4 3600 | 16GB DDR3 1600
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse RX6700XT 12GB | Vega 8 | Sapphire Pulse RX580 8GB
Storage Samsung 980 nvme (Primary) | some samsung SSD
Display(s) Dell 2723DS | Some 14" 1080p 98%sRGB IPS | Dell 2240L
Case Ant Esports Tempered case | Thinkpad | Antec
Audio Device(s) Logitech Z333 | Jabra corpo stuff
Power Supply Corsair RM750e | not needed | Corsair GS 600
Mouse Logitech G400 | nipple
Keyboard Logitech G213 | stock kb is awesome | Logitech K230
VR HMD ;_;
Software Windows 10 Professional x3
Benchmark Scores There are no marks on my bench
get an FX 8350 with the Gigabyte GA 970A UD3

the CPU will be better for 3d rendering, for only 9$ more. also, i feel AMD platforms a bit more "snippy" in CAD.


CPU: FX 8350 $199.99
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A UD3 $114.99

memory CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) $48.99
SSD Crucial M4 256GB SSD $170
AMD 100-505649 FirePro V4900 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 Workstation Video Card X2 $320 (crossfire)
SeaSonic S12II 430B 430W ATX12V V2.3/EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply $59.99
NZXT Source 210 S210-001 Black “Aluminum Brush / Plastic” ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $39.99


with the money left over you can buy 90CFM fans from CoolerMaster for the nzxt case.
 
Last edited:

david2

New Member
Joined
Jan 25, 2013
Messages
6 (0.00/day)
Thanks for the advise de.das.dude! I have a few comments and questions about the components;

CPU: FX 8350 ($200) vs Intel i5-3470 ($190)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A UD3 ($115) vs Asus P8Z77-V LX ($115)
Video: AMD FirePro v4900 ($160) vs Nvidia Quadro 600 $150

Having a hard time comparing these. One hand the Intel/Nvidia stuff seems to have a larger user base, maybe better driver support, and "more advanced" architecture. On the other hand AMD seems to have "better" specs. I'm sure this is an on going debate, any other opinions on these two options for CAD applications?
Also could you use the i5-3470 with the v4900 and still use crossfire? Would I need the Asus P8Z77-V LK?

Memory: CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) ($48.99) vs Corsair 1x8GB (PC3 12800) DDR3 1600MHz RAM ($44)
Sorry I should have been more specific, the memory I am looking at is;
"Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory (CML8GX3M1A1600C10)"
it actually sells for $44 on amazon. It is faster, cheaper and only takes up one slot compared to the XMS3. Let me know if I am missing something.

SSD: Crucial M4 256GB SSD $170

PSU: SeaSonic S12II ($59) vs Seasonic G-550 ($86)
You just saved me $27, thanks! I'm sure 430W will be plenty.

Case: NZXT Source 210 ($40) vs Lian Li PC-7H ($120)
I'm sure the Lian Li case is not worth the extra $80 but I'm not sure if I can resist. I figure I could reuse this case once the other components are obsolete but maybe by then there will be different standards in cases and how things mount?
 
Joined
May 14, 2009
Messages
2,132 (0.39/day)
Location
Chicago burbs
System Name Halloween Boo!
Processor Intel Core i7 3770K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z77-Up7
Cooling Custom Water/ Thermalchill TA 120.3/ Swiftech Apogeee XT/ MCP655/ Swiftech M icrores/ XSPC RX 240
Memory 16G G.Skill trident 2400MHz
Video Card(s) 3 x Radeon 7970
Storage OCZ Revo Drive 240G
Display(s) 24 inch Viewsonic
Case Phobia WayCoolIt Test Bench
Power Supply Nexus 1100 watt
David, if you live in US and have a microcenter by you, get the i7 3570K or 3770K. They have in store specials on them... The 3770K would be the call for your system if you can fit it in a $1000 budget.
 

v12dock

Block Caption of Rainey Street
Supporter
Joined
Dec 18, 2008
Messages
1,959 (0.35/day)
I run inventor fine on my computer if that helps any. I have also ran 3D Max, Pro/E(Creo), Maya and all raytrace plugins can render quite fast.
 

david2

New Member
Joined
Jan 25, 2013
Messages
6 (0.00/day)
drdeathx: Thanks for the tip! $230 for a i7 3770K seems like a great deal! Unfortunately I do not live close to a Miro Center and it doesn't look like they offer mail order.

v12dock: Yes I'm sure I could get away with a standard video card, I might not even use a video card at first and see how that works. If/when I do buy a video card though I want one that is supported for the major CAD programs (ie SolidWorks, AutoCAD) so I get the specialized drivers and don't have to wonder if problems I'm having come from a video card incompatibility.

I guess another requirement I failed to mention was the ability to run dual monitors, though I think that's pretty standard.
 

[Ion]

WCG Team Assistant
Joined
Sep 15, 2009
Messages
13,391 (2.52/day)
Location
Raleigh, North Carolina, United States
System Name Niedersachsen / Ribe / Minsk
Processor i3 3240 / i7-3520M / 4x Opteron 6376 @ 2.86GHz
Motherboard BIOSTAR H61M / HP Q77 / Supermicro H8QG7
Cooling Stock / Stock / 4x 1U G34
Memory 1x8GB / 2x4GB / 4x4GB
Video Card(s) GTX260 / Intel HD 4000 / nVidia GT310
Storage 80GB Intel SSD / 256GB Intel SSD / 2x 60GB SSD (RAID1)
Display(s) Dell 3007 + HP 2245w / 12.1" 1366x768 / None
Case Antec NSK3480 / HP / Supermicro 1U
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Enermax 500W / HP 130W / Supermicro Gold 1400W
Keyboard IBM Model M
Software Windows 7 (Niedersachsen/Ribe) / Linux Mint 17.2 (Minsk)
I have two computers built in the NZXT Source 210 cases and I'm very happy with the case. For $40, it is really an unbeatable bargain. It doesn't have an unnecessary flashy plastic design, it's simply a box. Cable management is great; with a non-modular PSU it takes some work (storing cables beside the hard drive cage) but with a modular power supply it's really easy. There are so many fan mounts (although I do suggest buying some more--the one it comes with isn't really enough).

As far as Intel vs AMD goes, I think that this is pretty much the best use for one of the AMD FX-8 CPUs. You get twice as many cores for just a little bit more. I am suspicious of the two FirePro cards that d.d.d suggested--I've never seen that done before. Maybe someone else can clarify.

For the DVD drive, you can't go wrong with something like this
 

Mindweaver

Moderato®™
Staff member
Joined
Apr 16, 2009
Messages
8,193 (1.50/day)
Location
Charleston, SC
System Name Tower of Power / Sechs
Processor i7 14700K / i7 5820k @ 4.5ghz
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming WiFi D4 / X99S GAMING 7
Cooling CM MasterLiquid ML360 Mirror ARGB Close-Loop AIO / CORSAIR Hydro Series H100i Extreme
Memory CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3600 / G.Skill DDR4 2800 16GB 4x4GB
Video Card(s) ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Ti / ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3070 V2 OC Edition
Storage 4x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2, 2x Crucial 1TB SSD / Samsung 870 PRO 500GB M.2
Display(s) Samsung 32" Odyssy G5 Gaming 144hz 1440p, ViewSonic 32" 72hz 1440p / 2x ViewSonic 32" 72hz 1440p
Case Phantek "400A" / Phanteks “Enthoo Pro series”
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC4080 / Azalia Realtek ALC1150
Power Supply Corsair RM Series RM750 / Corsair CXM CX600M
Mouse Glorious Gaming Model D Wireless / Razer DeathAdder Chroma
Keyboard Glorious GMMK with box-white switches / Keychron K6 pro with blue swithes
VR HMD Quest 3 (128gb) + Rift S + HTC Vive + DK1
Software Windows 11 Pro x64 / Windows 10 Pro x64
Benchmark Scores Yes
Here is what I would get hands down. :toast:



EDIT: I've got the v5700 card and it's a very fast card. I use Solidworks 2012 (Just got 2013, but haven't installed it), AutoCAD Inventor, and AutoCAD 09,10.
 
Joined
May 14, 2009
Messages
2,132 (0.39/day)
Location
Chicago burbs
System Name Halloween Boo!
Processor Intel Core i7 3770K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z77-Up7
Cooling Custom Water/ Thermalchill TA 120.3/ Swiftech Apogeee XT/ MCP655/ Swiftech M icrores/ XSPC RX 240
Memory 16G G.Skill trident 2400MHz
Video Card(s) 3 x Radeon 7970
Storage OCZ Revo Drive 240G
Display(s) 24 inch Viewsonic
Case Phobia WayCoolIt Test Bench
Power Supply Nexus 1100 watt
drdeathx: Thanks for the tip! $230 for a i7 3770K seems like a great deal! Unfortunately I do not live close to a Miro Center and it doesn't look like they offer mail order.

v12dock: Yes I'm sure I could get away with a standard video card, I might not even use a video card at first and see how that works. If/when I do buy a video card though I want one that is supported for the major CAD programs (ie SolidWorks, AutoCAD) so I get the specialized drivers and don't have to wonder if problems I'm having come from a video card incompatibility.

I guess another requirement I failed to mention was the ability to run dual monitors, though I think that's pretty standard.

If you know somebody who lives close a CPU can be mailed for under $10 BTW
 

Mindweaver

Moderato®™
Staff member
Joined
Apr 16, 2009
Messages
8,193 (1.50/day)
Location
Charleston, SC
System Name Tower of Power / Sechs
Processor i7 14700K / i7 5820k @ 4.5ghz
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming WiFi D4 / X99S GAMING 7
Cooling CM MasterLiquid ML360 Mirror ARGB Close-Loop AIO / CORSAIR Hydro Series H100i Extreme
Memory CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3600 / G.Skill DDR4 2800 16GB 4x4GB
Video Card(s) ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Ti / ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3070 V2 OC Edition
Storage 4x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2, 2x Crucial 1TB SSD / Samsung 870 PRO 500GB M.2
Display(s) Samsung 32" Odyssy G5 Gaming 144hz 1440p, ViewSonic 32" 72hz 1440p / 2x ViewSonic 32" 72hz 1440p
Case Phantek "400A" / Phanteks “Enthoo Pro series”
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC4080 / Azalia Realtek ALC1150
Power Supply Corsair RM Series RM750 / Corsair CXM CX600M
Mouse Glorious Gaming Model D Wireless / Razer DeathAdder Chroma
Keyboard Glorious GMMK with box-white switches / Keychron K6 pro with blue swithes
VR HMD Quest 3 (128gb) + Rift S + HTC Vive + DK1
Software Windows 11 Pro x64 / Windows 10 Pro x64
Benchmark Scores Yes
If you know somebody who lives close a CPU can be mailed for under $10 BTW

+1 - We have a few guys in the FS section that offer to do that, just pay shipping. :toast:
 
Joined
May 14, 2009
Messages
2,132 (0.39/day)
Location
Chicago burbs
System Name Halloween Boo!
Processor Intel Core i7 3770K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z77-Up7
Cooling Custom Water/ Thermalchill TA 120.3/ Swiftech Apogeee XT/ MCP655/ Swiftech M icrores/ XSPC RX 240
Memory 16G G.Skill trident 2400MHz
Video Card(s) 3 x Radeon 7970
Storage OCZ Revo Drive 240G
Display(s) 24 inch Viewsonic
Case Phobia WayCoolIt Test Bench
Power Supply Nexus 1100 watt
+1 - We have a few guys in the FS section that offer to do that, just pay shipping. :toast:

I have both AMD and Intel Rigs. For your needs, Intel suits better.
 

Mindweaver

Moderato®™
Staff member
Joined
Apr 16, 2009
Messages
8,193 (1.50/day)
Location
Charleston, SC
System Name Tower of Power / Sechs
Processor i7 14700K / i7 5820k @ 4.5ghz
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming WiFi D4 / X99S GAMING 7
Cooling CM MasterLiquid ML360 Mirror ARGB Close-Loop AIO / CORSAIR Hydro Series H100i Extreme
Memory CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3600 / G.Skill DDR4 2800 16GB 4x4GB
Video Card(s) ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Ti / ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3070 V2 OC Edition
Storage 4x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2, 2x Crucial 1TB SSD / Samsung 870 PRO 500GB M.2
Display(s) Samsung 32" Odyssy G5 Gaming 144hz 1440p, ViewSonic 32" 72hz 1440p / 2x ViewSonic 32" 72hz 1440p
Case Phantek "400A" / Phanteks “Enthoo Pro series”
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC4080 / Azalia Realtek ALC1150
Power Supply Corsair RM Series RM750 / Corsair CXM CX600M
Mouse Glorious Gaming Model D Wireless / Razer DeathAdder Chroma
Keyboard Glorious GMMK with box-white switches / Keychron K6 pro with blue swithes
VR HMD Quest 3 (128gb) + Rift S + HTC Vive + DK1
Software Windows 11 Pro x64 / Windows 10 Pro x64
Benchmark Scores Yes
I have both AMD and Intel Rigs. For your needs, Intel suits better.

I agree, but not for $1000 dollars. I'd pick intel to if money wasn't limited to $1000. I'd also, pick my 970 over the build I suggested, but my i7 970 CPU was over $500 new.. and I believe I was agreeing with you that if he can get someone to pick him up a 3770k at microcenter do that.. (+1)... I have both Intel and AMD as well. :toast:
 
Joined
May 14, 2009
Messages
2,132 (0.39/day)
Location
Chicago burbs
System Name Halloween Boo!
Processor Intel Core i7 3770K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z77-Up7
Cooling Custom Water/ Thermalchill TA 120.3/ Swiftech Apogeee XT/ MCP655/ Swiftech M icrores/ XSPC RX 240
Memory 16G G.Skill trident 2400MHz
Video Card(s) 3 x Radeon 7970
Storage OCZ Revo Drive 240G
Display(s) 24 inch Viewsonic
Case Phobia WayCoolIt Test Bench
Power Supply Nexus 1100 watt
I agree, but not for $1000 dollars. I'd pick intel to if money wasn't limited to $1000. I'd also, pick my 970 over the build I suggested, but my i7 970 CPU was over $500 new.. and I believe I was agreeing with you that if he can get someone to pick him up a 3770k at microcenter do that.. (+1)... I have both Intel and AMD as well. :toast:

if he can get a 3770K shipped only about $100 difference or maybe less. Intel has better sata controller, memory latencies and PCIe 3.0.
 

david2

New Member
Joined
Jan 25, 2013
Messages
6 (0.00/day)
Mindweaver: How do I get in contact with someone from the FS section to see if they could pick me up a i7-3770K? That would be awesome!

If I were to get the i7-3770k which graphics card would you recommend between a AMD FirePro V4900 and a PNY Nvidia Quadro 600?
I think I misunderstood d.d.d's recommendation before and thought he meant to use a single v4900 crossfire with the CPU integrated GPU. I don't think I need 2 video cards crossfired. But if you could cross fire the v4900 with the i7-3700k I could be interested (though I think it will mean I would have to step up to the Asus P8Z77-V LK).
 
Joined
May 14, 2009
Messages
2,132 (0.39/day)
Location
Chicago burbs
System Name Halloween Boo!
Processor Intel Core i7 3770K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z77-Up7
Cooling Custom Water/ Thermalchill TA 120.3/ Swiftech Apogeee XT/ MCP655/ Swiftech M icrores/ XSPC RX 240
Memory 16G G.Skill trident 2400MHz
Video Card(s) 3 x Radeon 7970
Storage OCZ Revo Drive 240G
Display(s) 24 inch Viewsonic
Case Phobia WayCoolIt Test Bench
Power Supply Nexus 1100 watt
Mindweaver: How do I get in contact with someone from the FS section to see if they could pick me up a i7-3770K? That would be awesome!

If I were to get the i7-3770k which graphics card would you recommend between a AMD FirePro V4900 and a PNY Nvidia Quadro 600?
I think I misunderstood d.d.d's recommendation before and thought he meant to use a single v4900 crossfire with the CPU integrated GPU. I don't think I need 2 video cards crossfired. But if you could cross fire the v4900 with the i7-3700k I could be interested (though I think it will mean I would have to step up to the Asus P8Z77-V LK).

If you need it, I can get it. Where do you live?
 
Joined
Feb 20, 2010
Messages
283 (0.05/day)
Location
Honky Tonk Nashville, TN
For CAD use like SolidWorks, Creo (Pro/e), Solid Edge, having an OpenGL graphics card is ideal. The prices have dropped big time in the past 6 months for the 1.0GB NVIDIA Quadro 2000. A NVIDIA Quadro 3800 was just released the end of last year.

For heavy CAD use for NX, Catia, ANSYS Design Modeler, the 2.5GB NVIDIA Quadro 5000 or 5800 is sweet using dual 27-in monitors. The NVIDIA Quadro 600 is already out. Dell offers it as one of their low end workstation cards on the Dell Precision T3600 series.

If you are building a machine to do generic CAD work or work on the side for machine shops, CAE or whatever lite duty, $1K is a nearly bare bones CAD station. My dad built one back in 2006 for $2K. $2K can get a really nice machine today.
 

de.das.dude

Pro Indian Modder
Joined
Jun 13, 2010
Messages
8,755 (1.74/day)
Location
Stuck in a PC. halp.
System Name Monke | Work Thinkpad| Old Monke
Processor Ryzen 5600X | Ryzen 5500U | FX8320
Motherboard ASRock B550 Extreme4 | ? | Asrock 990FX Extreme 4
Cooling 240mm Rad | Not needed | hyper 212 EVO
Memory 2x16GB DDR4 3600 Corsair RGB | 16 GB DDR4 3600 | 16GB DDR3 1600
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse RX6700XT 12GB | Vega 8 | Sapphire Pulse RX580 8GB
Storage Samsung 980 nvme (Primary) | some samsung SSD
Display(s) Dell 2723DS | Some 14" 1080p 98%sRGB IPS | Dell 2240L
Case Ant Esports Tempered case | Thinkpad | Antec
Audio Device(s) Logitech Z333 | Jabra corpo stuff
Power Supply Corsair RM750e | not needed | Corsair GS 600
Mouse Logitech G400 | nipple
Keyboard Logitech G213 | stock kb is awesome | Logitech K230
VR HMD ;_;
Software Windows 10 Professional x3
Benchmark Scores There are no marks on my bench
Thanks for the advise de.das.dude! I have a few comments and questions about the components;

CPU: FX 8350 ($200) vs Intel i5-3470 ($190)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A UD3 ($115) vs Asus P8Z77-V LX ($115)
Video: AMD FirePro v4900 ($160) vs Nvidia Quadro 600 $150

Having a hard time comparing these. One hand the Intel/Nvidia stuff seems to have a larger user base, maybe better driver support, and "more advanced" architecture. On the other hand AMD seems to have "better" specs. I'm sure this is an on going debate, any other opinions on these two options for CAD applications?
Also could you use the i5-3470 with the v4900 and still use crossfire? Would I need the Asus P8Z77-V LK?

Memory: CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) ($48.99) vs Corsair 1x8GB (PC3 12800) DDR3 1600MHz RAM ($44)
Sorry I should have been more specific, the memory I am looking at is;
"Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory (CML8GX3M1A1600C10)"
it actually sells for $44 on amazon. It is faster, cheaper and only takes up one slot compared to the XMS3. Let me know if I am missing something.

SSD: Crucial M4 256GB SSD $170

PSU: SeaSonic S12II ($59) vs Seasonic G-550 ($86)
You just saved me $27, thanks! I'm sure 430W will be plenty.

Case: NZXT Source 210 ($40) vs Lian Li PC-7H ($120)
I'm sure the Lian Li case is not worth the extra $80 but I'm not sure if I can resist. I figure I could reuse this case once the other components are obsolete but maybe by then there will be different standards in cases and how things mount?



AMD processors are great in multi threaded operations. and CAD is a fine example of multi threaded operations. as you can see in the benchmark i linked to. AMD scores higher than the intel

you need to keep buy a crossfire motherboard.


Also there is a thing called "dual channel memory" which is utilized in mordern CPUs, this means that using two of that particulat kit infact increases the performance of your RAM greatly. so 2X4Gb is always better than 1X8Gb. and hence the dual tone coloring of the RAM slots. so its definitely worth the difference

the V4900 is much better than the one you mentioned.


and Lian Li cases are overprice stuff. they are just not worth it. only people with too much money can buy those.

You can buy the Nzxt cases, they are exceptionally cheap, reliable, and have good quality. If you dont like their designs you can also go for the recently launched Fractal Design ARc MIdi II. its also a great case.

And the scope of ventilattion on the nzxt and fractal is endless, its got dual 140mm top fan mounts, front dual 120mm, and a rear 120mm. it also has provision on the side panel as well.


one thing i forgot to mention is that if you want to crossfire i think it would be better to go for a 500W PSU, corsair CX500 is a good PSU, and i have used it on many of my builds.
 
Joined
May 14, 2009
Messages
2,132 (0.39/day)
Location
Chicago burbs
System Name Halloween Boo!
Processor Intel Core i7 3770K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z77-Up7
Cooling Custom Water/ Thermalchill TA 120.3/ Swiftech Apogeee XT/ MCP655/ Swiftech M icrores/ XSPC RX 240
Memory 16G G.Skill trident 2400MHz
Video Card(s) 3 x Radeon 7970
Storage OCZ Revo Drive 240G
Display(s) 24 inch Viewsonic
Case Phobia WayCoolIt Test Bench
Power Supply Nexus 1100 watt
AMD processors are great in multi threaded operations. and CAD is a fine example of multi threaded operations. as you can see in the benchmark i linked to. AMD scores higher than the intel

you need to keep buy a crossfire motherboard.


Also there is a thing called "dual channel memory" which is utilized in mordern CPUs, this means that using two of that particulat kit infact increases the performance of your RAM greatly. so 2X4Gb is always better than 1X8Gb. and hence the dual tone coloring of the RAM slots. so its definitely worth the difference

the V4900 is much better than the one you mentioned.


and Lian Li cases are overprice stuff. they are just not worth it. only people with too much money can buy those.

You can buy the Nzxt cases, they are exceptionally cheap, reliable, and have good quality. If you dont like their designs you can also go for the recently launched Fractal Design ARc MIdi II. its also a great case.

And the scope of ventilattion on the nzxt and fractal is endless, its got dual 140mm top fan mounts, front dual 120mm, and a rear 120mm. it also has provision on the side panel as well.


one thing i forgot to mention is that if you want to crossfire i think it would be better to go for a 500W PSU, corsair CX500 is a good PSU, and i have used it on many of my builds.


I am getting him a 3770K and shipping it to him das.
 

de.das.dude

Pro Indian Modder
Joined
Jun 13, 2010
Messages
8,755 (1.74/day)
Location
Stuck in a PC. halp.
System Name Monke | Work Thinkpad| Old Monke
Processor Ryzen 5600X | Ryzen 5500U | FX8320
Motherboard ASRock B550 Extreme4 | ? | Asrock 990FX Extreme 4
Cooling 240mm Rad | Not needed | hyper 212 EVO
Memory 2x16GB DDR4 3600 Corsair RGB | 16 GB DDR4 3600 | 16GB DDR3 1600
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse RX6700XT 12GB | Vega 8 | Sapphire Pulse RX580 8GB
Storage Samsung 980 nvme (Primary) | some samsung SSD
Display(s) Dell 2723DS | Some 14" 1080p 98%sRGB IPS | Dell 2240L
Case Ant Esports Tempered case | Thinkpad | Antec
Audio Device(s) Logitech Z333 | Jabra corpo stuff
Power Supply Corsair RM750e | not needed | Corsair GS 600
Mouse Logitech G400 | nipple
Keyboard Logitech G213 | stock kb is awesome | Logitech K230
VR HMD ;_;
Software Windows 10 Professional x3
Benchmark Scores There are no marks on my bench
oh nice. yeah, its only worth it if he can get the microcenter deal. those are the shit. else as mindreaver stated, intel is not worth it for an under 1000$ budget.
 

de.das.dude

Pro Indian Modder
Joined
Jun 13, 2010
Messages
8,755 (1.74/day)
Location
Stuck in a PC. halp.
System Name Monke | Work Thinkpad| Old Monke
Processor Ryzen 5600X | Ryzen 5500U | FX8320
Motherboard ASRock B550 Extreme4 | ? | Asrock 990FX Extreme 4
Cooling 240mm Rad | Not needed | hyper 212 EVO
Memory 2x16GB DDR4 3600 Corsair RGB | 16 GB DDR4 3600 | 16GB DDR3 1600
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse RX6700XT 12GB | Vega 8 | Sapphire Pulse RX580 8GB
Storage Samsung 980 nvme (Primary) | some samsung SSD
Display(s) Dell 2723DS | Some 14" 1080p 98%sRGB IPS | Dell 2240L
Case Ant Esports Tempered case | Thinkpad | Antec
Audio Device(s) Logitech Z333 | Jabra corpo stuff
Power Supply Corsair RM750e | not needed | Corsair GS 600
Mouse Logitech G400 | nipple
Keyboard Logitech G213 | stock kb is awesome | Logitech K230
VR HMD ;_;
Software Windows 10 Professional x3
Benchmark Scores There are no marks on my bench
For CAD use like SolidWorks, Creo (Pro/e), Solid Edge, having an OpenGL graphics card is ideal. The prices have dropped big time in the past 6 months for the 1.0GB NVIDIA Quadro 2000. A NVIDIA Quadro 3800 was just released the end of last year.

For heavy CAD use for NX, Catia, ANSYS Design Modeler, the 2.5GB NVIDIA Quadro 5000 or 5800 is sweet using dual 27-in monitors. The NVIDIA Quadro 600 is already out. Dell offers it as one of their low end workstation cards on the Dell Precision T3600 series.

If you are building a machine to do generic CAD work or work on the side for machine shops, CAE or whatever lite duty, $1K is a nearly bare bones CAD station. My dad built one back in 2006 for $2K. $2K can get a really nice machine today.

true, but the only portion he will need to change is the GPU. if he gets a GPU for another 1K, he is set.
 
Joined
May 18, 2010
Messages
3,427 (0.68/day)
System Name My baby
Processor Athlon II X4 620 @ 3.5GHz, 1.45v, NB @ 2700Mhz, HT @ 2700Mhz - 24hr prime95 stable
Motherboard Asus M4A785TD-V EVO
Cooling Sonic Tower Rev 2 with 120mm Akasa attached, Akasa @ Front, Xilence Red Wing 120mm @ Rear
Memory 8 GB G.Skills 1600Mhz
Video Card(s) ATI ASUS Crossfire 5850
Storage Crucial MX100 SATA 2.5 SSD
Display(s) Lenovo ThinkVision 27" (LEN P27h-10)
Case Antec VSK 2000 Black Tower Case
Audio Device(s) Onkyo TX-SR309 Receiver, 2x Kef Cresta 1, 1x Kef Center 20c
Power Supply OCZ StealthXstream II 600w, 4x12v/18A, 80% efficiency.
Software Windows 10 Professional 64-bit
dro 600 $150
Corsair 1x8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM $48


8GB of RAM isn't a lot of memory for what you're trying to achieve.

You've got a budget of $1,000 and memory is at it's cheapest. I wouldn't settle for anything less than 16GB of RAM. It cost less than 1/10 of your budget.
 
Joined
Mar 2, 2011
Messages
1,226 (0.26/day)
Location
Omaha, NE
System Name Graphics Card Free...
Processor Ryzen 5 5600G
Motherboard MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX Wifi
Cooling Cryorig M9a w/ BeQuiet! PureWings 2 ~ 92mm
Memory Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 3200 ~ 16GB(2x8GB)
Storage Samsung EVO 870 SSD - 1TB
Display(s) AOC 24G2
Case Cardboard...
Power Supply eVGA SuperNova 550w G3
Mouse Logitech t400 Zone Touch Mouse
Keyboard IBM Model "M" Keyboard
Software Manjaro ~ KDE Plasma
Benchmark Scores She's a Runner!
Don't discount buying a quadro on eBay either...it's worth a look. I've picked up the 600's for a C note on more than a few occasions. For what we use(financial software), the NVS 300 is enough, usually run about $30 a piece and might actually be a decent substitute card if you're waiting for a new one to be released? These 300's drive 2 24" monitors with ease. Excellent display characteristics(crisp, clear pictures and text) in 2D - as well.

I like the recommendation of at least a 3570k and 16gb's of memory.

Seasonic's a solid power supply and 400w is more than enough for your specs listed. Newegg is nice, but Superbiiz routinely offers discounts on parts, I've picked up Seasonic's there for decent prices.

Samsung is making decent SSD's in the 830/840 series...if the price is right they are worth a look, not to mention their low profile DDR3 1600 memory in black PCB's. Great Stuff...very flexible.

Also, when building a business rig for the office...a Lian Li, while nice seems a little excessive. We use the Silverstone PS-07's with great success, they're 78. on Amazon. And a little step up is the TJ-08B-E for 99. They're worthy of at least a look. Although...I do have to admit, I like the PS-07's the most, because they remind me of the HP MicroTowers(MT) I grew up with.

You didn't mention a monitor here, perhaps you already have one. If not the Samsung 650 business line and Dell's Professional units are where I'd start. Dell's P series can also be bought from the outlet...I've ordered dozens and dozens without hassle. When you throw in a 15% coupon they can get pretty cheap. Have had very good luck with the U2311's, and the P2412H's. All have come new in appearance and function.

Best,

Liquid Cool
 
Joined
Jun 7, 2009
Messages
121 (0.02/day)
System Name m4gicr1g
Processor 940 Deneb stock
Motherboard lava
Cooling Coolermaster Hyper 212
Memory 6gb DDR2 800 Corsair
Video Card(s) PNY GTX 285 Space Heater
Display(s) ASUS VS229H-P
Case none
Power Supply Corsair CX430
and Lian Li cases are overprice stuff. they are just not worth it. only people with too much money can buy those.

You can buy the Nzxt cases, they are exceptionally cheap, reliable, and have good quality
.
>anyone over the age of 13 with an NZXT case

Anyway.

I recommend the Bitfenix Prodigy


Cheap, good build quality, and tasteful.
 
Joined
May 14, 2009
Messages
2,132 (0.39/day)
Location
Chicago burbs
System Name Halloween Boo!
Processor Intel Core i7 3770K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z77-Up7
Cooling Custom Water/ Thermalchill TA 120.3/ Swiftech Apogeee XT/ MCP655/ Swiftech M icrores/ XSPC RX 240
Memory 16G G.Skill trident 2400MHz
Video Card(s) 3 x Radeon 7970
Storage OCZ Revo Drive 240G
Display(s) 24 inch Viewsonic
Case Phobia WayCoolIt Test Bench
Power Supply Nexus 1100 watt
oh nice. yeah, its only worth it if he can get the microcenter deal. those are the shit. else as mindreaver stated, intel is not worth it for an under 1000$ budget.

I respect your an AMD fan but Intel is worth it.... and you can build a great 3570K for under $1000. I own both AMD and Intel. Intel= better Sata controller which is faster sata speeds, PCIe 3.0 plus better memory latencies
 

de.das.dude

Pro Indian Modder
Joined
Jun 13, 2010
Messages
8,755 (1.74/day)
Location
Stuck in a PC. halp.
System Name Monke | Work Thinkpad| Old Monke
Processor Ryzen 5600X | Ryzen 5500U | FX8320
Motherboard ASRock B550 Extreme4 | ? | Asrock 990FX Extreme 4
Cooling 240mm Rad | Not needed | hyper 212 EVO
Memory 2x16GB DDR4 3600 Corsair RGB | 16 GB DDR4 3600 | 16GB DDR3 1600
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse RX6700XT 12GB | Vega 8 | Sapphire Pulse RX580 8GB
Storage Samsung 980 nvme (Primary) | some samsung SSD
Display(s) Dell 2723DS | Some 14" 1080p 98%sRGB IPS | Dell 2240L
Case Ant Esports Tempered case | Thinkpad | Antec
Audio Device(s) Logitech Z333 | Jabra corpo stuff
Power Supply Corsair RM750e | not needed | Corsair GS 600
Mouse Logitech G400 | nipple
Keyboard Logitech G213 | stock kb is awesome | Logitech K230
VR HMD ;_;
Software Windows 10 Professional x3
Benchmark Scores There are no marks on my bench
meh. where on earth would you need PCIe 3.0? and yes i AMDs memory controller is horrible.

intel is wanted but not needed :)

can i buy a plot on the moon? yes its legal now, but wtf. :laugh:
 
Top