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1055T or i5 750?

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Hey Guys, so I finally (albeit reluctantly) sold my Q9550 and my 6GB worth of 1066 Dominators (covered in another thread.)

So basically I'm looking to buy some a new mobo, CPU and RAM. I'm on a pretty tight student-friendly budget of up to £375-£400, and am wanting it mainly for games, and maybe the odd foray into VMs.

I play a lot of BFBC2 and am looking at buying GTA4 & Crysis 2 when its released (which point I'll buy a dx11 gfx card, but will prob stick with the 260 for the time being.)

So I guess I'm really asking which CPU is better value for me; the i5 750 (or soon to be released 760?) or going down the AM3 hex core route? I know both are due to be replaced in the next year, but I really cant be without a decent gaming/multitasking rig for long :laugh:

Any advice or alternative solutions appreciated :)
 
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BTW the system needs to last me at least 3 years thru uni, so whether or not the 1055T might be a better option due to the extra 2 cores for longevity's sake is something to consider :)
 
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I would go for X6. I think that has more value for money. PII x4 vs i5 was tough to choose PII x6 vs i5 I think it is no-brainer. Even do many would argue about performance when running single threaded applications.
 
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Only in some multithreaded test did the X6 really flex it's core muscles over the 750. In most test, especially gaming, the i5 750 came out on top.

If longevity over performance is what will really float your boat then I'd go with an X6 and 890 chipset board. Reason being is supposedly Bulldozer will be compatible with the newer AM3 chipsets but again I say supposedly.
 
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Well, I think going with the 890FX platform over the P55, is a better choice for you because it supports SATA 6Gb/s and USB 3.0 natively and gives you that many more PCIe lanes. Also, there is a fair chance that Bulldozer would be compatible with the AM3 socket.
 

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I'd get a 1055T, its more future proof and has a great price tag on it.
 
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i would wait for bulldozer, but if u have to get now go the hex route
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the 1055T compares to core i7 870
 

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Go with the x6 for longevity purposes. What everyone else said is true regarding the platform if you ever wish to change over to 32nm parts aka "Bulldozer".

Also why did you choose the i5 750? Why not go i7 9x0? Would last you quite a while so you wouldn't have to really worry about socket changes.

Once you need to upgrade again there would be a new socket out anyways.

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What's the specs of the Dominators?
 
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core i7 860 is better than core i7 920
 
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core i7 860 is better than core i7 920
Why? cause its 200mhz faster stock? I doubt he will be keeping it stock anyway. Also they both hit 4ghz fairly easy, the x58 chipset has tri channel over dual and full 16x pcie lanes for crossfire or SLI not 16 + 8x or 8 + 8x etc. And for the price the 920 is cheaper.

Though I'm inclined to stick to the original question and say go for the thuban, will be getting one myself very soon :D :toast:
 
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Thanks for all the responses :toast:

Go with the x6 for longevity purposes. What everyone else said is true regarding the platform if you ever wish to change over to 32nm parts aka "Bulldozer".

Also why did you choose the i5 750? Why not go i7 9x0? Would last you quite a while so you wouldn't have to really worry about socket changes.

Once you need to upgrade again there would be a new socket out anyways.

EDIT:

What's the specs of the Dominators?
I'd love to go 1366 but I simply dont think I can afford it :( Sounds like Thuban is the route to go then, I havent had an AMD machine since an Athlon 1.2ghz Thunderbird I had back in 2001, although I recently built an X2 550 machine for a relative.

The Dominators were PC2-8500 5-5-5-15 @ 2.1v with DHX Fan btw JrRacingFan :)
 
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As you can see in my system specs, I currently run a RAID 0 setup, I heard Intel's southbridges had better RAID performance than AMD's, is this true? and if so is it a noticable difference?
I ask as I'll be keeping my hard drives in my next build, along with my case, PSU, ODD, monitor and X-Fi in my next build :)
 
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Thanks for all the responses :toast:



I'd love to go 1366 but I simply dont think I can afford it :( Sounds like Thuban is the route to go then, I havent had an AMD machine since an Athlon 1.2ghz Thunderbird I had back in 2001, although I recently built an X2 550 machine for a relative.

The Dominators were PC2-8500 5-5-5-15 @ 2.1v with DHX Fan btw JrRacingFan :)
From what your upgrading from.

a 6-core, efficient architectured, 6mb L3 cache'd, 45nm processor will be so dam fast it will be like a week of nights to a day.

a e2000 processor vs a 1055t is completely unfair. Your PC should be so fast from what your used to, your experience in windows surfing will be 10 times better alone. You will notice crisp, smooth, fast programs. Some programs that used to bog will be rock smooth.

And if you overclock it.

Games will be like night and day to.

That e2000 is such a bottle neck to a high end quad core. I had a e5200 at 4.0Ghz, Yeh i played games decently. But it was actually bottle necking my GTX 260 so bad. Once a put the q9550 in, slammed crysis in, and i went from 40 fps to 65-80fps everywere on the map.

A e2000 to a fast as hell 1055t architecture will really show what your card can do.

Have fun, get that 1055t!!!!!! :toast::toast::toast:
 
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From what your upgrading from.

a 6-core, efficient architectured, 6mb L3 cache'd, 45nm processor will be so dam fast it will be like a week of nights to a day.

a e2000 processor vs a 1055t is completely unfair. Your PC should be so fast from what your used to, your experience in windows surfing will be 10 times better alone. You will notice crisp, smooth, fast programs. Some programs that used to bog will be rock smooth.

And if you overclock it.

Games will be like night and day to.

That e2000 is such a bottle neck to a high end quad core. I had a e5200 at 4.0Ghz, Yeh i played games decently. But it was actually bottle necking my GTX 260 so bad. Once a put the q9550 in, slammed crysis in, and i went from 40 fps to 65-80fps everywere on the map.

A e2000 to a fast as hell 1055t architecture will really show what your card can do.

Have fun, get that 1055t!!!!!! :toast::toast::toast:
He's upgrading from a Q9550. E2000 is temp.
 

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Thanks for all the responses :toast:



I'd love to go 1366 but I simply dont think I can afford it :( Sounds like Thuban is the route to go then, I havent had an AMD machine since an Athlon 1.2ghz Thunderbird I had back in 2001, although I recently built an X2 550 machine for a relative.

The Dominators were PC2-8500 5-5-5-15 @ 2.1v with DHX Fan btw JrRacingFan :)
What I'm trying to understand to keep the upgrade more cost effective is why you sold the Dominators. Could have easily ran the x6 with ddr2.
 
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The GTA4 should perform better on the 6 core
 
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i5 750... much quicker once clocks are matched in games, lower power consumption, and overall a better balanced processor. Both easily OC to 4Ghz, and at 4Ghz the i750 is faster (there is a review of this out there) and it consumes wayy less power, has a better IMC and memory, and has better FPS in games. The six core hype is just that.

dont get x6 for "futureproofing" because by the time that you will need it to be "futureproofed" your socket will be outdated and your chip will be slow as balls compared to everyone else. Unless you're folding, then you might be better off. Gta 4 is coded for a 3 core processor, so the extra 3 cores won't do much over a quad.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1055t-overclocking_7.html

"However, if you are not limited to the specific processor socket type, then the situation may be different. In this case quad-core Intel processors from the same price range often outperform six-core Phenom II. Core i5-750 is the most dangerous rival to the new Phenom II X6 1055T, as it can also be overclocked to 4.0 GHz and runs just as fast as the six-core AMD processor in most applications, but consumes considerably less power. In fact, AMD solution is ahead of Intel only in those applications that can load any number of cores to the maximum by splitting the processes into parallel threads."


If you are going to be getting the 1055 get a good board... one that can hit a decent Base Clock/FSB since NB speed does affect 1055's gaming performance.
 
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dont get x6 for "futureproofing" because by the time that you will need it to be "futureproofed" your socket will be outdated and your chip will be slow as balls compared to everyone else.
Bulldozer will be on skt AM3. 1156 is being replaced by 1155. 1156 is now a dead end and if he would want to upgrade his CPU in the future. With a 1156 socket it will cost more. Look at s775 for example.
 
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Don't tell me 1055T is just like GTX470 and 1090T is like GTX480.
Than core i5 750 is like 5850 and core i7 860 like 5870 :p
 
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Don't tell me 1055T is just like GTX470 and 1090T is like GTX480.
Than core i5 750 is like 5850 and core i7 860 like 5870 :p
I am not sure what analogy you are trying to concoct but the only difference with the 1055T and 1090T is the default clock speed and the unlocked multi. Generally speaking most half decent motherboards can still allow for a good overclock via FSB so the 1055T is often the better all around CPU price/performance.

BTW, Aleksander Dishnica didnt I answer like loads of your threads a few weeks ago regarding you upgrading and buying components. Weeks later has this upgrade of yours materialised :shadedshu
 
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No problem about upgrades, cuz i got the hitachi 1 TB hdd, sempron 3000+ (months ago), 21" CRT and the new CM cooler.
I just want to upgrade my graphic card, but i am waiting for the 6xxx series. Who knows what i do in the future :p
About the analogy: gtx series uses much more wattage than ati 5xxx series. That is why i did the analogy about the processors.
 
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Motherboard Asus M4A785TD-V EVO
Cooling Sonic Tower Rev 2 with 120mm Akasa attached, Akasa @ Front, Xilence Red Wing 120mm @ Rear
Memory 16 GB G.Skills 1600Mhz
Video Card(s) ATI ASUS Crossfire 5850
Storage Samsung 1Tb EcoGreen hard drive
Display(s) Hanngs-G 19"
Case Antec VSK 2000 Black Tower Case
Audio Device(s) Onkyo TX-SR309 Receiver, 2x Kef Cresta 1, 1x Kef Center 20c
Power Supply OCZ StealthXstream II 600w, 4x12v/18A, 80% efficiency.
Software Windows Vista X64
#24
@Dent1
No problem about upgrades, cuz i got the hitachi 1 TB hdd, sempron 3000+ (months ago), 21" CRT and the new CM cooler.
I just want to upgrade my graphic card, but i am waiting for the 6xxx series. Who knows what i do in the future :p
About the analogy: gtx series uses much more wattage than ati 5xxx series. That is why i did the analogy about the processors.
Do not wait for technology, if you wait for the 6xxx series you will never upgrade, upgrade when you need to based on the hardware which is out now. The only time I would wait for hardware is if the components were being released in the short distant future. i.e. in a month or less.

With your mentality when the 6xxx series comes you'd say "actually I am going to wait for the 7xxx series" and nothing happens.
 
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System Name Champ's 1440P Rig
Processor Intel i7-4770K @ 4.6 GHz
Motherboard AsRock Z97 Extreme6
Cooling Corsair H60
Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB 1600 Mhz 4x4 Blue Ram
Video Card(s) Nvidia 1080 FE
Storage Samsung 840 Evo 256 GB/RAID 0 Western Digital Blue 1 TB HDDs
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Case Antec P100
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#25
I read at Tom's Hardware, that's not point in buying a chip stronger than i5-750 for gaming. I'm guessing most games can't use the full power of x2 chips let alone a x4 or x6.