1080ti only stable in "debug mode"

[Hamster]

Good morning, I have a GTX 1080 ti amp extreme edition, the problem is that in order to play whenever I start my PC I have to open the nvidia control panel and activate debug mode or debug mode, because if I do not do that at the moment start any game and do not activate the debug mode the game freezes sometimes at minutes and sometimes takes longer but always passes, and then only the audio is heard and there is no way to restart the application, I necessarily have to turn off the pc in the power button to make it react, and try to install other versions of the nvidia drivers, I've even tried using the software zotac firestorm, afterburner, to lower the base frequency of the gpu to the stock speeds of the founders versions edition and it seems that that also works as the debug mode but when I turn off the PC and start it again I have to do the whole process again, I would appreciate if you could help me or give me some advice on how I can sol To use this error, it should be clarified that this only happens to me with games, since I used my PC to make renderings in sketchup using vray and I have run several benchmark programs for my gpu and everything always goes well and the screen never freezes, I would appreciate it very much your help.

 

[droopyRO]

Did you try to uninstall the drivers with DDU from safe mode, then install the latest WHQL from nVidia ? also did you try to under clock your card ? try -100 Mhz on core and memory and see if it helps.

 

[Hamster]

Did you try to uninstall the drivers with DDU from safe mode, then install the latest WHQL from nVidia ? also did you try to under clock your card ? try -100 Mhz on core and memory and see if it helps.

That's right, I tried to reinstall drives with the ddu, and I also tried to lower the frequency to those of nvidia reference, when I do that if it works as if I had it in debug mode, the detail is that every time I start the PC I have I have to do everything in afterburner or firestorm, etc., because everything I move is not saved and I don't know how to do it so that this configuration is saved because I already tried several times; and another thing that I do not understand is because in debug mode everything works fine and as soon as I take it off it is when the problems begin to happen, this will take approximately 7 months to begin to happen

 

[moproblems99]

I would be careful with DDU. I used to use it but it removed some files that I still needed and caused me quite a few headaches. Was it user error? Possibly. Was it a bug? Possibly. But I haven't used it in 12 years and haven't had any issues so I don't see the point.

Edit: Debug mode probably changes how error handling operates. The question is it a hardware error or a software (driver) error. Judging that the problem goes away when you underclock, it is likely hardware or temp related.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Could you fill out your system specs for us so we can get a feel for the balance of your setup, my first thought might be PSU, you can fill in your specs in "Account details" here...…………...

 

[Deleted member 185158]

If you're using Windows 10 you can follow these steps to reset the video card driver so you don't have to reboot windows.
Ready?
Press the Win + Ctrl + Shift + B keys all at the same time.

What I would do is try different drivers to see what works best for your needs.
Some driver revisions may have better stability than others.

 

[Hamster]

I would be careful with DDU. I used to use it but it removed some files that I still needed and caused me quite a few headaches. Was it user error? Possibly. Was it a bug? Possibly. But I haven't used it in 12 years and haven't had any issues so I don't see the point.

Edit: Debug mode probably changes how error handling operates. The question is it a hardware error or a software (driver) error. Judging that the problem goes away when you underclock, it is likely hardware or temp related.

I do not throw any error or code, just the screen freezes

Could you fill out your system specs for us so we can get a feel for the balance of your setup, my first thought might be PSU, you can fill in your specs in "Account details" here...…………...

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If you're using Windows 10 you can follow these steps to reset the video card driver so you don't have to reboot windows.
Ready?
Press the Win + Ctrl + Shift + B keys all at the same time.

What I would do is try different drivers to see what works best for your needs.
Some driver revisions may have better stability than others.

At this moment I have version 441.41

 

[moproblems99]

I do not throw any error or code, just the screen freezes

It would be internal error handling within the driver/GPU. It is relaxing the policy on something.

Actually, after 5 seconds of googling, I found that debug mode sets the card at factory/base clocks. Sooooo, you possibly have a card that is failing to some extent.

 

[Hamster]

It would be internal error handling within the driver/GPU. It is relaxing the policy on something.

Actually, after 5 seconds of googling, I found that debug mode sets the card at factory/base clocks. Sooooo, you possibly have a card that is failing to some extent.

When the problem started to appear, I also searched on Google and found that about the debug mode, and I started using it because playing destiny I started to pass this problem and curiously it worked, so I assumed it was a problem with the overclock, you think it is an already serious problem of the video card?

 

[moproblems99]

When the problem started to appear, I also searched on Google and found that about the debug mode, and I started using it because playing destiny I started to pass this problem and curiously it worked, so I assumed it was a problem with the overclock, you think it is an already serious problem of the video card?

Well, if I am understanding things correctly, you don't know how to use Afterburner to save profiles so you probably don't manually overclock. That means the only overclock on the card is the overclock that Zotac put on the card. Enabling debug mode removes the Zotac factory overclock and sets everything to nVidia reference specs. If your card can't handle the Zotac factory overclock then we only have a few possibilities (sure, there are really endless possibilities) that are likely. These are, in no particular order:

• Driver Issue: Most unlikely since the problem goes away when downclocked.
• Power Delivery: Not as likely given your PSU.
• Faulty/Unstable Card: Most likely seeing as how the problem goes away when downclocked. This is lowering the stress on the card and stopping whatever errors are blowing up the system.
• Temps: Unlikely. You didn't mention temps so that is an unknown at the moment. Doesn't seem like the issue as you said it can happen nearly immediately into firing the game up.

 

[Hamster]

Well, if I am understanding things correctly, you don't know how to use Afterburner to save profiles so you probably don't manually overclock. That means the only overclock on the card is the overclock that Zotac put on the card. Enabling debug mode removes the Zotac factory overclock and sets everything to nVidia reference specs. If your card can't handle the Zotac factory overclock then we only have a few possibilities (sure, there are really endless possibilities) that are likely. These are, in no particular order:

• Driver Issue: Most unlikely since the problem goes away when downclocked.
• Power Delivery: Not as likely given your PSU.
• Faulty/Unstable Card: Most likely seeing as how the problem goes away when downclocked. This is lowering the stress on the card and stopping whatever errors are blowing up the system.
• Temps: Unlikely. You didn't mention temps so that is an unknown at the moment. Doesn't seem like the issue as you said it can happen nearly immediately into firing the game up.

Regarding the temperatures I had not mentioned them because according to the program that I use to measure all these aspects (HWiNFO) the maximum temperature that my gpu has reached (100%) working with the activated debug mode is 74 ° so do not consider that it was a problem, In fact, when I have rendered or done stability tests I have never found myself in need of activating debug mode and although the GPU is working at 100% it has never exceeded 77 ° Celsius.