System Name | Best AMD Computer |
---|---|
Processor | AMD 7900X3D |
Motherboard | Asus X670E E Strix |
Cooling | In Win SR36 |
Memory | GSKILL DDR5 32GB 5200 30 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Pulse 7900XT (Watercooled) |
Storage | Corsair MP 700, Seagate 530 2Tb, Adata SX8200 2TBx2, Kingston 2 TBx2, Micron 8 TB, WD AN 1500 |
Display(s) | GIGABYTE FV43U |
Case | Corsair 7000D Airflow |
Audio Device(s) | Corsair Void Pro, Logitch Z523 5.1 |
Power Supply | Deepcool 1000M |
Mouse | Logitech g7 gaming mouse |
Keyboard | Logitech G510 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro 64 Steam. GOG, Uplay, Origin |
Benchmark Scores | Firestrike: 46183 Time Spy: 25121 |
System Name | Work Computer | Unfinished Computer |
---|---|
Processor | Core i7-6700 | Ryzen 5 5600X |
Motherboard | Dell Q170 | Gigabyte Aorus Elite Wi-Fi |
Cooling | A fan? | Truly Custom Loop |
Memory | 4x4GB Crucial 2133 C17 | 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 3600 C26 |
Video Card(s) | Dell Radeon R7 450 | RTX 2080 Ti FE |
Storage | Crucial BX500 2TB | TBD |
Display(s) | 3x LG QHD 32" GSM5B96 | TBD |
Case | Dell | Heavily Modified Phanteks P400 |
Power Supply | Dell TFX Non-standard | EVGA BQ 650W |
Mouse | Monster No-Name $7 Gaming Mouse| TBD |
I already have 1080p 144hzWhat resolution? Do you want to include a monitor in that price? Do you prefer eye candy or smooth high refresh rate?
Processor | 5800X3D -30 CO |
---|---|
Motherboard | MSI B550 Tomahawk |
Cooling | DeepCool Assassin III |
Memory | 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws V @ 3800 CL14 |
Video Card(s) | ASRock MBA 7900XTX |
Storage | 1TB WD SN850X + 1TB ADATA SX8200 Pro |
Display(s) | Dell S2721QS 4K60 |
Case | Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced USB 3.0 |
Audio Device(s) | Audiotrak Prodigy Cube Black (JRC MUSES 8820D) + CAL (recabled) |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime TX-750 |
Mouse | Logitech Cordless Desktop Wave |
Keyboard | Logitech Cordless Desktop Wave |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
System Name | Galaxy Tab S8+ |
---|---|
Processor | Snapdragon 8 gen 1 SOC |
Cooling | passive |
Memory | 8 GB |
Storage | 256 GB + 512 GB SD |
Display(s) | 2.800 x 1.752 Super AMOLED |
Power Supply | 10.090 mAh |
Software | Android 12 |
Processor | 3900x - Bykski waterblock |
---|---|
Motherboard | MSI b450m mortar max BIOS Date 27 Apr 2023 |
Cooling | αcool 560 rad - 2xPhanteks F140XP |
Memory | Micron 32gb 3200mhz ddr4 |
Video Card(s) | Colorful 3090 ADOC active backplate cooling |
Storage | WD SN850 2tb ,HP EX950 1tb, WD UltraStar Helioseal 18tb+18tb |
Display(s) | 24“ HUION pro 4k 10bit |
Case | aluminium extrusions copper panels, 60 deliveries for every piece down to screws |
Audio Device(s) | sony stereo mic, logitech c930, Gulikit pro 2 + xbox Series S controller, moded bt headphone 1200mAh |
Power Supply | Corsair RM1000x |
Mouse | pen display, no mouse no click |
Keyboard | Microsoft aio media embedded touchpad (moded lithium battery 1000mAh) |
Software | Win 11 23h2 build 22631 |
Benchmark Scores | cine23 20000 |
System Name | Black MC in Tokyo |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen 5 5600 |
Motherboard | Asrock B450M-HDV |
Cooling | Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2 |
Memory | 2 x 16GB Kingston Fury 3400mhz |
Video Card(s) | XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319 |
Storage | Kingston A400 240GB | WD Black SN750 2TB |WD Blue 1TB x 2 | Toshiba P300 2TB | Seagate Expansion 8TB |
Display(s) | Samsung U32J590U 4K + BenQ GL2450HT 1080p |
Case | Fractal Design Define R4 |
Audio Device(s) | Line6 UX1 + some headphones, Nektar SE61 keyboard |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x v3 |
Mouse | Logitech G602 |
Keyboard | Cherry MX Board 1.0 TKL Brown |
VR HMD | Acer Mixed Reality Headset |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | Rimworld 4K ready! |
are loading times that important or is there something I am missing?CPU first and foremost.
Second SSD storage for loading times.
Far down the list is GPU and RAM. For reference I have a Ryzen 2600x, 3060ti, currently 8GB RAM and the PDX games (Stellaris mostly) runs fine. Vicky3 is a lot heavier on the GPU (4K).
With the 5800x3d dropping in price I would honestly look into that.
System Name | Galaxy Tab S8+ |
---|---|
Processor | Snapdragon 8 gen 1 SOC |
Cooling | passive |
Memory | 8 GB |
Storage | 256 GB + 512 GB SD |
Display(s) | 2.800 x 1.752 Super AMOLED |
Power Supply | 10.090 mAh |
Software | Android 12 |
You better stay with ddr4 and invest more on gpu.@P.D
I dont plan to upgrade the cpu that frequently so is it still worth it?For Paradox games (i have 7k+ hours in their games so far) you need foremost a CPU with good IPC. GPU is not really important - Victoria 3 might be different as it is the first game with a game ready driver as far as I know - because the games' FPS will be limited by the used game engine and the CPU in mid to late game. Every mid-range GPU should do the job. The 5800X3D is a great gaming CPU but AM4 is end of life so I'd rather go with the 7600X at the moment as you will have an upgrade path later on. Raptor Lake might be faster but the current platform is also end of life. There will most likely be no new CPUs for socket 1700 after this generation. Rather put the saved money in a motherboard that comes with PCIe 5.0 x16. You will not need it right now but if you'll keep the rig for more than a generation or two it might come in handy for a later GPU upgrade.
System Name | Galaxy Tab S8+ |
---|---|
Processor | Snapdragon 8 gen 1 SOC |
Cooling | passive |
Memory | 8 GB |
Storage | 256 GB + 512 GB SD |
Display(s) | 2.800 x 1.752 Super AMOLED |
Power Supply | 10.090 mAh |
Software | Android 12 |
are loading times that important or is there something I am missing?
I dont plan to upgrade the cpu that frequently so is it still worth it?
Does DDR5 matter?No, loading times in those games do not benefit from a NVME SSD at all.
In that case I would go for the 13600k. The 5800X3D might be faster in most modern AAA games but I doubt that it's IPC is higher than Raptor Lake.
Processor | 3900x - Bykski waterblock |
---|---|
Motherboard | MSI b450m mortar max BIOS Date 27 Apr 2023 |
Cooling | αcool 560 rad - 2xPhanteks F140XP |
Memory | Micron 32gb 3200mhz ddr4 |
Video Card(s) | Colorful 3090 ADOC active backplate cooling |
Storage | WD SN850 2tb ,HP EX950 1tb, WD UltraStar Helioseal 18tb+18tb |
Display(s) | 24“ HUION pro 4k 10bit |
Case | aluminium extrusions copper panels, 60 deliveries for every piece down to screws |
Audio Device(s) | sony stereo mic, logitech c930, Gulikit pro 2 + xbox Series S controller, moded bt headphone 1200mAh |
Power Supply | Corsair RM1000x |
Mouse | pen display, no mouse no click |
Keyboard | Microsoft aio media embedded touchpad (moded lithium battery 1000mAh) |
Software | Win 11 23h2 build 22631 |
Benchmark Scores | cine23 20000 |
He is at 1080 resolution, not Geforce 1080The games he wants the PC for - maybe apart from Victoria 3 - does not need a new GPU right now. His 1080 will do just fine. Paradox Games are limited by the used engine and thus the CPU. When Victoria 3 will see the GPU as bottleneck you still can reduce details. It's grand strategy games, the graphics are not super beautiful at all. So investing money in a dead platform might not be best idea.
I agree with intel. On a ddr4 system....In that case I would go for the 13600k. The 5800X3D might be faster in most modern AAA games but I doubt that it's IPC is higher than Raptor Lake.
Not really for games. But make sure you run your os on ssd.are loading times that important or is there something I am missing?
No matter, except for upgradability. It would be hard to find ddr4 in 3~4 years.Does DDR5 matter?
System Name | Silent |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen 7800X3D @ 5.15ghz BCLK OC, TG AM5 High Performance Heatspreader |
Motherboard | ASUS ROG Strix X670E-I, chipset fans removed |
Cooling | Optimus AMD Raw Copper/Plexi, HWLABS Copper 240/40+240/30, D5, 4x Noctua A12x25, Mayhems Ultra Pure |
Memory | 32 GB Dominator Platinum 6150 MHz 26-36-36-48, 57ns AIDA, 2050 FLCK, 160 ns TRFC |
Video Card(s) | RTX 3080 Ti Founders Edition, Conductonaut Extreme, 18 W/mK MinusPad Extreme, Corsair XG7 Waterblock |
Storage | Intel Optane DC P1600X 118 GB, Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB |
Display(s) | 32" 240 Hz 1440p Samsung G7, 31.5" 165 Hz 1440p LG NanoIPS Ultragear |
Case | Sliger SM570 CNC Aluminium 13-Litre, 3D printed feet, custom front panel with pump/res combo |
Audio Device(s) | Audeze Maxwell Ultraviolet, Razer Nommo Pro |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 Platinum, transparent custom cables, Sentinel Pro 1500 Online Double Conversion UPS |
Mouse | Razer Viper Pro V2 Mercury White w/Tiger Ice Skates & Pulsar Supergrip tape |
Keyboard | Wooting 60HE+ module, TOFU Redux Burgundy w/brass weight, Prismcaps White & Jellykey, lubed/modded |
Software | Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 19053.3803 |
Benchmark Scores | Legendary |
To get a better resolustion I can upgrade my glasses xd. but tbh ty.Please upgrade your monitor, lol 1080p is so old school tbh
Processor | 3900x - Bykski waterblock |
---|---|
Motherboard | MSI b450m mortar max BIOS Date 27 Apr 2023 |
Cooling | αcool 560 rad - 2xPhanteks F140XP |
Memory | Micron 32gb 3200mhz ddr4 |
Video Card(s) | Colorful 3090 ADOC active backplate cooling |
Storage | WD SN850 2tb ,HP EX950 1tb, WD UltraStar Helioseal 18tb+18tb |
Display(s) | 24“ HUION pro 4k 10bit |
Case | aluminium extrusions copper panels, 60 deliveries for every piece down to screws |
Audio Device(s) | sony stereo mic, logitech c930, Gulikit pro 2 + xbox Series S controller, moded bt headphone 1200mAh |
Power Supply | Corsair RM1000x |
Mouse | pen display, no mouse no click |
Keyboard | Microsoft aio media embedded touchpad (moded lithium battery 1000mAh) |
Software | Win 11 23h2 build 22631 |
Benchmark Scores | cine23 20000 |
To get a better resolution I can upgrade my glasses xd. but tbh ty
Agree, I'd try to pick a second hand 12th gen though. Less money more perfIntel i5 13600K
32 GB 3800/16 DDR4
B660 Asus DDR4
any SSD, PSU, Cooler, Case, GPU from our editors choice that fits your budget. You'll need about 750 W PSU unless you're going with a 80/90 tier NVIDIA GPU, which isn't necessary for strategy. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=&manufacturer=&editorschoice=1&pp=25&order=date
Also look at upgrading your monitor to 1440p.
System Name | Galaxy Tab S8+ |
---|---|
Processor | Snapdragon 8 gen 1 SOC |
Cooling | passive |
Memory | 8 GB |
Storage | 256 GB + 512 GB SD |
Display(s) | 2.800 x 1.752 Super AMOLED |
Power Supply | 10.090 mAh |
Software | Android 12 |
I'm against reducing graphic details for the sake of 13th gen cpu on a ddr5 mobo.
I dont plan to upgrade the cpu that frequently so is it still worth it?
System Name | Computer of Theseus |
---|---|
Processor | Intel i9-12900KS: 50x Pcore multi @ 1.18Vcore (target 1.275V -100mv offset) |
Motherboard | EVGA Z690 Classified |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15S, 2xThermalRight TY-143, 4xNoctua NF-A12x25,3xNF-A12x15, 2xAquacomputer Splitty9Active |
Memory | G-Skill Trident Z5 (32GB) DDR5-6000 C36 F5-6000J3636F16GX2-TZ5RK |
Video Card(s) | EVGA Geforce 3060 XC Black Gaming 12GB |
Storage | 1x Samsung 970 Pro 512GB NVMe (OS), 2x Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB (data 1 and 2), ASUS BW-16D1HT |
Display(s) | Dell S3220DGF 32" 2560x1440 165Hz Primary, Dell P2017H 19.5" 1600x900 Secondary, Ergotron LX arms. |
Case | Lian Li O11 Air Mini |
Audio Device(s) | Audiotechnica ATR2100X-USB, El Gato Wave XLR Mic Preamp, ATH M50X Headphones, Behringer 302USB Mixer |
Power Supply | Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000W 80+ Platinum White |
Mouse | Zowie EC3-C |
Keyboard | Vortex Multix 87 Winter TKL (Gateron G Pro Yellow) |
Software | Win 10 LTSC 21H2 |
Processor | 3900x - Bykski waterblock |
---|---|
Motherboard | MSI b450m mortar max BIOS Date 27 Apr 2023 |
Cooling | αcool 560 rad - 2xPhanteks F140XP |
Memory | Micron 32gb 3200mhz ddr4 |
Video Card(s) | Colorful 3090 ADOC active backplate cooling |
Storage | WD SN850 2tb ,HP EX950 1tb, WD UltraStar Helioseal 18tb+18tb |
Display(s) | 24“ HUION pro 4k 10bit |
Case | aluminium extrusions copper panels, 60 deliveries for every piece down to screws |
Audio Device(s) | sony stereo mic, logitech c930, Gulikit pro 2 + xbox Series S controller, moded bt headphone 1200mAh |
Power Supply | Corsair RM1000x |
Mouse | pen display, no mouse no click |
Keyboard | Microsoft aio media embedded touchpad (moded lithium battery 1000mAh) |
Software | Win 11 23h2 build 22631 |
Benchmark Scores | cine23 20000 |
OkeydokeI would not combine a 13600k with DDR5 either. It would have been neccessary for AM5 but not for the intended usage. When P.D does not want to upgrade the PC at all getting 32mb of DDR4 in the range of 100 bucks should be more than enough for the next few years.
We don't want a 400$ cpu that only runs on ddr5 on a 1200$ budgetWould do the 7700X Microcenter special if you are near to one.
AMD Ryzen 7 7700X Raphael AM5 4.5GHz 8-Core Boxed Processor - Heatsink Not Included - Micro Center
Get it now! Welcome to the new era of performance. AMD Ryzen 7000 Series ushers in the speed of Zen 4 for gamers and creators with pure power to tackle any game or workflow on the digital playground.www.microcenter.com
System Name | Black MC in Tokyo |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen 5 5600 |
Motherboard | Asrock B450M-HDV |
Cooling | Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2 |
Memory | 2 x 16GB Kingston Fury 3400mhz |
Video Card(s) | XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319 |
Storage | Kingston A400 240GB | WD Black SN750 2TB |WD Blue 1TB x 2 | Toshiba P300 2TB | Seagate Expansion 8TB |
Display(s) | Samsung U32J590U 4K + BenQ GL2450HT 1080p |
Case | Fractal Design Define R4 |
Audio Device(s) | Line6 UX1 + some headphones, Nektar SE61 keyboard |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x v3 |
Mouse | Logitech G602 |
Keyboard | Cherry MX Board 1.0 TKL Brown |
VR HMD | Acer Mixed Reality Headset |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | Rimworld 4K ready! |
No, loading times in those games do not benefit from a NVME SSD at all.
Just did a test in CK3 with max. settings at 120% render resolution vs. med. settings at 80% render resolution at 3440x1440. I doubt you will see much differences in this kind of game but believe me, the difference is approx. 150-200W in terms of GPU power usage. Had to cut the screen shots because of size.
Depends on how you use your computer. I don't play for long stretches of time and I like to shut down the computer when I'm not using it, and waiting for >5 minutes for a game to load for a short session after work is a drag. Since I got the 2TB SSD I play more games because of this.are loading times that important or is there something I am missing?
Resolution is not just about how clear you see, but how much you see. The field of view.
Even most 15" laptops are higher than 1080p nowadays
Score/time/map/instructions take so much of the space, there's nothing left to see on a 1080 resolution
System Name | Computer of Theseus |
---|---|
Processor | Intel i9-12900KS: 50x Pcore multi @ 1.18Vcore (target 1.275V -100mv offset) |
Motherboard | EVGA Z690 Classified |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15S, 2xThermalRight TY-143, 4xNoctua NF-A12x25,3xNF-A12x15, 2xAquacomputer Splitty9Active |
Memory | G-Skill Trident Z5 (32GB) DDR5-6000 C36 F5-6000J3636F16GX2-TZ5RK |
Video Card(s) | EVGA Geforce 3060 XC Black Gaming 12GB |
Storage | 1x Samsung 970 Pro 512GB NVMe (OS), 2x Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB (data 1 and 2), ASUS BW-16D1HT |
Display(s) | Dell S3220DGF 32" 2560x1440 165Hz Primary, Dell P2017H 19.5" 1600x900 Secondary, Ergotron LX arms. |
Case | Lian Li O11 Air Mini |
Audio Device(s) | Audiotechnica ATR2100X-USB, El Gato Wave XLR Mic Preamp, ATH M50X Headphones, Behringer 302USB Mixer |
Power Supply | Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000W 80+ Platinum White |
Mouse | Zowie EC3-C |
Keyboard | Vortex Multix 87 Winter TKL (Gateron G Pro Yellow) |
Software | Win 10 LTSC 21H2 |
$400 CPU that comes with a free 32GB DDR5 5600 kit and an instant $50 off the motherboard.Okeydoke
13th intel ddr4
I need my gpu to warm me up in winter. My toes are chilly.
We don't want a 400$ cpu that only runs on ddr5 on a 1200$ budget
https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-g360a-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854116I already have 1080p 144hz
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/intel-core-i5-13600k-review,8.html the ipc is not that different, am I missing something?Just did a test in CK3 with max. settings at 120% render resolution vs. med. settings at 80% render resolution at 3440x1440. I doubt you will see much differences in this kind of game but believe me, the difference is approx. 150-200W in terms of GPU power usage. Had to cut the screen shots because of size.
I would not combine a 13600k with DDR5 either. It would have been neccessary for AM5 but not for the intended usage. When P.D does not want to upgrade the PC at all getting 32mb of DDR4 in the range of 100 bucks should be more than enough for the next few years.
Question is: Do you want to upgrade the CPU in 3-4 years time? In case of AM4 and LGA1700 you will also have to get a new MB and RAM if you go with DDR4. If you decide to go AM5 it is more than likely you will have at least the option to get a Zen5 CPU, maybe even Zen6. That was the reason I did suggest AM5, even it will be more costly now.