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14 nm "Broadwell" A True System-on-Chip (SoC)

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Year 2014-'15.

Many Thanks to NHKS for the tip.
 
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Awesome! :rockout: Hopefully this will give more room on the motherboard for extra stuff like ram slots, or just make motherboards smaller sense the northbridge will be on chip.
 
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dang I was hoping SoC stood for Super Overclock :(
 
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Another part of the picture

^:laugh:

See where intel is going with this.....you thought they were the dark empire before. Think theyve finally overcome that achiles heel of theirs.......interesting times ahead.
 
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This is just progression and it's happening since I know computers.
As technology advances, they put more and more components into one chip to make it more efficient, but as those components get more and more complex (or when new components are introduced), they have to make them separate, because they get too big.
And the cycle continues... :)
 

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will the motherboards, now chipless(almost) be any cheaper?
 

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This is just progression and it's happening since I know computers.
As technology advances, they put more and more components into one chip to make it more efficient, but as those components get more and more complex (or when new components are introduced), they have to make them separate, because they get too big.
And the cycle continues... :)
really? so processors have already gone this way before and then done a 360?? :rolleyes:
 

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really? so processors have already gone this way before and then done a 360?? :rolleyes:
pff you've never seen Chuck Norris' CPU have you?

My guess is ~400$ for the midrange enthusiast CPU+mobo is going to be the norm
 

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Currently H61 motherboards with 30$ chipset cost 60$ and P67 wth 40$ chipset cost 80$, so motherboard with no chipset will cost 30-40$ an it will overclock depending solely on the CPU, not the motherboard too as it is now with the H61. Chipset on the same package as CPU will be shrinked to 10-20mm2 and that will cost 10-20$ more, so we can expect "K" class cpu with +20$ price point and 20% overclock on 40$ motherboard.
 
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really? so processors have already gone this way before and then done a 360??
no ,its what the slow evolution of circuitry involves ie they made a cpu then a little later made a seperate maths co pro, then they added it , every step onto die for another piece of circuitry locks down its spec and performance too so its more of a known thing, it does not make sense to try out new systems and circuitry on die initially as any failure becomes expensive to die yields, they dont often take things back off die and new things do often come along ,as well as advancce greatly with older but still used tech being made legacy for a fair few years before one day like isa and pci becomeing redundant, that takes a long time though
 
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really? so processors have already gone this way before and then done a 360?? :rolleyes:
No, I meant something like the "Wheel of Reincarnation", the thing what happened with the Coprocessors, the CPU instruction extensions and with the various controllers, or perhaps what will happen (or already happening?) with the graphics(GPU) or audio chips in the future.
 
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what are they implieing with that TRUE bit ?? :confused: in the opening headline
 
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Wouldn't this imply that motherboards made for LGA1150 (Haswell) would be physically incompatible with Broadwell ?
 
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Wouldn't this imply that motherboards made for LGA1150 (Haswell) would be physically incompatible with Broadwell ?
Broadwell should be a tock, so it is a new architecture, not a shrink and like every Intel's tock it won't be compatible with the previous socket.
Haswell (tock) 1150-> Haswell Shrink (tick) 1150 -> Broadwell (tock) unknown socket :)
 
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one they they will come with 1nm, then .5nm and blah blah blah.. let's just see how small can they keep it!?!
 

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one they they will come with 1nm, then .5nm and blah blah blah.. let's just see how small can they keep it!?!
They need to figure out the quantum tunneling problem at 16nm and smaller first. You can only make circuits so small...
 

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the other issue is integrating so much into the CPU itself will cause comm issues and plus heat
 

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the other issue is integrating so much into the CPU itself will cause comm issues and plus heat
People said the same when they started to have multiple cores on each die but that worked out well. I'm not worried about this really. Also it's not like .. anything on a motherboard is prone to issues.