1500$ budget i5 6600k AMD RX 480 Please advise

[Vayra86]

An i7 with a 1070 makes perfect sense. The Z170 chipset will probably not see a more powerful CPU than the 6700K. And while an i5 might be more than adequate now, I'm inclined to believe it won't keep up with an i7 in 2-3 years time. But I don't plan on upgrading the MoBo and CPU that soon. You suggest buying a 1080 instead of a 1070. 25% more fps for 62% more €... I'd rather spend the 300€ I'll save towards the next GPU upgrade which I plan on upgrading in 2-3 years time - something that won't require the purchase of a new MoBo unlike the CPU upgrade at that time would. True nowadays. Let's talk in 3 years again, shall we?

We've seen this sentiment in the past ten (!) + years and I've probably been reading it as long as I've been building systems. And to this day, it has been proven untrue. People are still gaming very much close to 95-100% efficiency on an i7 920, or a Sandy Bridge CPU. The i7 Skylake today offers at best 2-4% perf gain on the top end cards compared to a four year old i7.

So... only reason I would pick i7 for gaming rigs is non-overclockable and with higher clocks out of the box. Not for the HT. Either way it is not a cost-effective CPU for gaming and it never really will be, at best in a very select handful of titles that are not console ports but heavily PC optimized and hard to run... and I honestly can't think of any game title that applies to that today.

 

[Toothless]

If you want future proof build which should run all the games at high to very high settings with playable fps I would recommend i7-6700K and GTX 1080 combo. For example i7-4790K and GTX 980 combo which was 2 year back launch is still performing great with new titles at high to very high or ultra settings and will surely perform great for a year or more.
A rig that could run any game which is launched at medium to very high setting and attain 60+fps at opted resolution for nearly 4 or more years without requirement of major upgrade is a future proof rig.

Can you stop, seriously.

 

[P4-630]

Can you stop, seriously.

Waiting for a nice video again from him...

 

[dyonoctis]

It's true that the RX 480 seems odd for a long time gaming system, but:

1. Price in Europe are crazy. Asus is super overpriced in Europe, but the op like this brand.
2. we are apparently going to stay on 14nm for a while, Navi coming out in 2018 will be in 14nm, we are not going to see 10 or 7 nm for a while.
3. Following up n°2: my R9 270x can still put a good fight in high/medium setting of recent games. 46 fps average in Rise of the Tomb raider high at 1080p. This chip is 5 years old.
4. Vega is faaarrrrr away, waiting so long when you don't have a decent gpu to begin with, is hard.

However, unless Asus fixed the fan profile of their RX 480 strixx, The Msi gaming is better. The 39 db of the asus isn't that bad, but it's still way more noisy than the 31 db of the msi. You'll have to tweak the fan if you want silence.

 

[Toothless]

The only issue i have with Asus is their horrid customer service, though its not as bad as TigerDirect.

 

[SithLord]

You can easily play any game at high settings for next 3years+ with this build.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H55 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($137.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($86.92 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk Z400s 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card ($629.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.79 @ Newegg)
Total: $1507.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-15 11:45 EDT-0400

no offence but i LOLed when i saw your recomendation. 6700k with a 1080 for a $1500 budget build? sure those are great parts (keep in mind that where OP is from that's not a $1500 build) an h55? on a top tier OC CPU? is there some inside joke i'm missing?

 

[Toothless]

no offence but i LOLed when i saw your recomendation. 6700k with a 1080 for a $1500 budget build? sure those are great parts (keep in mind that where OP is from that's not a $1500 build) an h55? on a top tier OC CPU? is there some inside joke i'm missing?

He's not joking, sadly. This is the second time he's posted an i7/1080 build while not contributing anything to the thread within bounds to what the OP wants.

 

[Vayra86]

no offence but i LOLed when i saw your recomendation. 6700k with a 1080 for a $1500 budget build? sure those are great parts (keep in mind that where OP is from that's not a $1500 build) an h55? on a top tier OC CPU? is there some inside joke i'm missing?

Considering he already moved away from X99 for gaming systems I'd say he's making good progress

 

[Dethroy]

We've seen this sentiment in the past ten (!) + years and I've probably been reading it as long as I've been building systems. And to this day, it has been proven untrue. People are still gaming very much close to 95-100% efficiency on an i7 920, or a Sandy Bridge CPU. The i7 Skylake today offers at best 2-4% perf gain on the top end cards compared to a four year old i7.

So... only reason I would pick i7 for gaming rigs is non-overclockable and with higher clocks out of the box. Not for the HT. Either way it is not a cost-effective CPU for gaming and it never really will be, at best in a very select handful of titles that are not console ports but heavily PC optimized and hard to run... and I honestly can't think of any game title that applies to that today.

Nothing to argue about. But I usually build PCs that shall last more than 3 years. And I firmly believe (noone knows for certain) that we will see greater adoption of multicore use until then. Parallelism seems inevitable because raising the clock speeds/ipc will only lead us thus far.

 

[EarthDog]

I think that VR guy is a member that used to post strikingly similar, random and clueless builds with vids, at my home site...

Yan West, is that you??

 

[peche]

"K" intel i5, +z170 board + 16GB Ram + GTX 1060/1070 + SSD + HDD + UPS +great PSU and Case, all it a day, pretty much future proof, also great for working / gaming / everyday use, also will be less than $1500...

Regards,

 

[P4-630]

"K" intel i5, +z170 board + 16GB Ram + GTX 1060/1070 + SSD + HDD + UPS +great PSU and Case, all it a day, pretty much future proof, also great for working / gaming / everyday use, also will be less than $1500...

Regards,

Not so sure with the prices in Europe, my rig was 1812 Euros or 2042 USD...

 

[Toothless]

"K" intel i5, +z170 board + 16GB Ram + GTX 1060/1070 + SSD + HDD + UPS +great PSU and Case, all it a day, pretty much future proof, also great for working / gaming / everyday use, also will be less than $1500...

Regards,

No such thing as future proof. While i agree on the part choices OP probably wants to stick with the 480.

UPS probably isn't needed.

 

[peche]

UPS probably isn't needed.

its is needed ....always..

 

[P4-630]

@Cvrk do you have a link(s) from where you will buy the computer hardware?

 

[EarthDog]

its is needed ....always..

ORLY?

Never had one. Ever. 25 years of computing...never. It is optional. Now if you have frequent brown outs or power outages or you voltage is wonky, then grab one...however, NEED is FAR from the truth.

 

[Cvrk]

However, unless Asus fixed the fan profile of their RX 480 strixx, The Msi gaming is better. The 39 db of the asus isn't that bad, but it's still way more noisy than the 31 db of the msi. You'll have to tweak the fan if you want silence.

I don't think their gonna fix anything. Sure i'm not gonna hit buy until i see a few reviews on youtube .
I really trust Asus Strix. I think they deliver every time. And there is one more thing. The MSI sucks away to much watts & a bit more hot. I keep the quite,at a cost of watts and a hot gpu (not to mention it's ugly)

@Cvrk do you have a link(s) from where you will buy the computer hardware?

I provided at the begging of the thread. http://www.emag.ro/ This is the main place. Even tho you can not find BeQuite PSU, be Quite Case and a few more.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

its is needed ....always..

Depends where you live.
We dont need them in the UK.

 

[Cvrk]

its is needed ....always..

Haha! If i had money for UPS, i would for Gsync , for 2 graphic cards ,for water cooling , for i7's etc . Nah, it may be needed but UPS is not in my budget.

 

[SithLord]

I finally saved some money and it is time to say goodbye to my old computer. The Phenom X4 840 has served me well.
About one month ago i have purchased the Samsung S24E370D monitor with FreeSync . I was always set on amd . Cuz their cheaper. However i don't ever wanna look at a amd cpu again. I had enough.

What i need: 3 years future proof gaming pc for 1080p .
I have a 1080p smart TV,that still delivers great image & and now a new freesync 1080p monitor.

The list of components i consider buying in the next days or weeks (i' not in a hurry)
Motherboard MSI H170 GAMING M3 Socket 1151 . Because the msi mobo B150 M3 is 10$ cheaper The only difference on paper is PnP and BIOS 128 Mb Flash ROM. Do i need these things. Not really. But its only 10$ for a higher cipset. I read many reviews and comparisons between LAN Killer E2400 vs Intel i219-v. I chose Killer.
http://goo.gl/RrVwBF
CPU Intel Skylake i5 6600k . Because my cousin just got the i5 6500 3,2 . I get to pay 17$ more for the 6600k , and i will gladly do so.
RAM Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 CL16 2400 MHz Vengeance LPX . Because 8 gb for me is enough but 16 is cheap even for my budget so why not. 32 is absolutely too much.
CPU Cooling be quiet! Shadow Rock 2 . I look at this as an overkill. I do not intend to OC the cpu. But i want a very quite PC. A cheaper cooling would do.
Case Be quiet! Silent Base 600 Window MiddleTower http://goo.gl/Ji5O6E or Corsair Carbide Quiet 400Q http://goo.gl/c2LFUf
PSU Corsair RMi Series RM750i 750W, 80 PLUS Gold . I am a bit afraid that this might be a bit overkill and there many reviews telling the corsairs tend to have coil noise. I want gold cert and i think i need 700W but i could go with something cheaper.
For now i will postpone buying a ssd. I think the ssd is a some how a trifle. But i was considering the Intel 535 Series, 240GB, 2.5'', SATA III
Graphics card: not out yet. The reason why i haven't bought my pc yet. And also i wanna buy the card and test it first for 1 week or more on this pc to see with my own eyes just how much of a bottleneck for cpu can be. I am convinced 99% i need the AMD Asus Strix RX 480 . Not only that its amd, but it's budget....and i just fell in love with it the Polaris 10 XT. I have to have this card!

Note: I do not intend to overclock this pc what so ever! It has to be dead silent. Capable of running 1080p now and in the future of 2-3 years with high-medium settings.

Give me your impressions . Tell me what i need to get (to improve). My budget right now is 1500$. It's impossible for me to go over this budget.
I also feel that 1500$ is a bit to much considering i don't need more than 1080p and i don't need crazy performance. I am the type of person that runs the operating system as stripped to the bone as possible and when in game i shut down all other app's just to get best performance without stressing my pc .

Honestly, for what you want this will do fine. you've covered all the bases (good PSU, 16gb ram, aftermarket cooler). if you can find a good deal on a z170 motherboard, you *could* overclock the 6600k a couple years down when you see a performance drop, furthering the life of your system. If not, you could probably save a few dollars switching to a 6600 non-k. for that cooler, there is this review: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/beQuiet/Shadow_Rock_2/9.html seems to have trouble with ram clearance but mentions the vengance sticks will work so your covered there. as for cases, refer to these reviews: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/Carbide_400Q/6.html & https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/beQuiet/Silent_Base_600/6.html I have never used these cases so i cannot speak for them, and cases usually boil down to personal preference and hardware compatability anyways. postponing the ssd is fine, as long as you have a reliable HDD for now, but I would get one asap, you will really see the difference and will never go back to HDD-only systems

*Edit* i forgot to mention the GPU... You wont have to worry about the CPU being a bottleneck with the 480. I'm sure the AMD Asus Strix RX 480 and i5 6600(k) will do rather nicely.

hope this helps a little

 

[P4-630]

I don't think their gonna fix anything. Sure i'm not gonna hit buy until i see a few reviews on youtube .
I really trust Asus Strix. I think they deliver every time. And there is one more thing. The MSI sucks away to much watts & a bit more hot. I keep the quite,at a cost of watts and a hot gpu (not to mention it's ugly)

I provided at the begging of the thread. http://www.emag.ro/ This is the main place. Even tho you can not find BeQuite PSU, be Quite Case and a few more.

So your budget is 6000 LEI.

 

[Cvrk]

So your budget is 6000 LEI.

5500 lei would be more likely and realistic. Yes i can pus to 6000....i don't really want to.
I just noticed! @P4-630 you have ONLY a 500W PSU! This is amazing! Why do i need a 750....i wonder ? I did the math. and i guess i am crazy. I thought 650 is nice...but i noticed the prices on the Corsairs and ....a well.... I should be fine with a bequite 600W ? than

And btw @P4-630 if you wanna build a rig using just that website that i provided, it's gonna fail. Like i said....they have limited parts. I will buy from there the motherboard, CPU, RAM, CPU cooling (maybe)....and the gpu & maybe the SSD.

 

[P4-630]

5500 lei would be more likely and realistic. Yes i can pus to 6000....i don't really want to.
I just noticed! @P4-630 you have ONLY a 500W PSU! This is amazing! Why do i need a 750....i wonder ? I did the math. and i guess i am crazy. I thought 650 is nice...but i noticed the prices on the Corsairs and ....a well.... I should be fine with a bequite 600W ? than

And btw @P4-630 if you wanna build a rig using just that website that i provided, it's gonna fail. Like i said....they have limited parts. I will buy from there the motherboard, CPU, RAM, CPU cooling (maybe)....and the gpu & maybe the SSD.

Yeah 500W was good enough for my system, I won't do SLI.

If you want to buy another RX480 in the future, just keep that in mind when buying a PSU.

I used this PSU calulator BTW : http://www.bequiet.com/en/psucalculator

 

[EarthDog]

You don't need a 650/650W GPU for this build. That was mentioned to you already.

 

[Cvrk]

Decided.
I will wait on buying the psu. I have a 600w bronze corsair cx. will see how good this goes. everybody says the cx is a low end bad psu. The computer ain't gonna blow up. Will put my money in a ssd ,will just wait and see how the CX can handle all of this. Sure, definitely not a perm solution. I need a gold cert psu by the end of this year.

Question:
The motherboard only goes up to 2133 ram. If i get the 2400 MHz CL16 it's a waste of money ?