1500$ budget i5 6600k AMD RX 480 Please advise

[slozomby]

You cant future proof a computer. I dont know why people get so stuck on that. Just build the best rig you can at that point in time. No point in worrying about what the future holds for this stuff when no one really knows.

only partially true. video cards for gaming are the part that needs to be upgraded most often. but I had my I-7 920 for 8 years before I got around to upgrading the proc/board/mem. and it's still doing just fine as a workstation. with the only upgrades being an ssd for the boot drive and video cards.

video cards are a whole nother story. those I wind up replacing every 2-3 years. that being said. you might consider stepping down to the r470 that'll free up some funds for the case, upgraded cpu heatsink to a corsair h55 and a decent ssd (Samsung 850) while still staying close to your budget.

The orginal fan of the Hyper 212 could be loud on loads, most people replace it ...

i'll attest to that. it gets insanely loud when the proc is pegged. replacing the fans help some adding a second fan helps some more. but then you're getting close to the hydros in price.

 

[Cvrk]

Sorry, I don't have a good camera and my cable management is not top-notch
I have posted here a while ago:

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/your-pc-atm.65012/page-1121#post-3486648

I also have the subwoofer at the right of my feet,under the desk , like that. That is a good looking wood on that desk.
That heatsink looks likes its coming out of the case.
You know what that case is missing ? Exactly what i was thinking of getting . One of those rgb led kits. We have to get the pretty colors!

video cards are a whole nother story. those I wind up replacing every 2-3 years. that being said. you might consider stepping down to the r470 that'll free up some funds for the case, upgraded cpu heatsink to a corsair h55 and a decent ssd (Samsung 850) while still staying close to your budget.

I was taking that in consideration, so much. However, the RX 480 is almost capable of running right now 60 fps on Witcher 3. Mass Effect Andromeda is coming up fast. I'm afraid to go stingy on the graphics.... i would rather wait on the ssd.

 

[P4-630]

That heatsink looks likes its coming out of the case.

Well it fits nicely, about 1+cm to spare when I have the case closed.
Coolers higher than the CM 212 evo won't fit if you want to close the case.

 

[Night]

Asus Strix RX 480 seems to be overpriced pretty much everywhere, MSI Gaming X's cooling solution has better performance in acoustics and thermals, and as far as I know, it's cheaper than Strix.

Do you plan on using more than 60 Hz for the monitor's refresh rate? If so, you will most likely end up with medium quality settings for the upcoming games.

 

[Hiryougan]

Hey op! Did you already bought the case and cooling? If not, check the SilentiumPC stuff, from what i've seen you should be able to get them in your country. They are AMAZING bang4buck, TPU did some reviews on them.
And Fortis 3 blows the be quiet out of the water and is as quiet, if not quieter. It's available in the same shop you linked in your first post: http://www.emag.ro/search/silentiumpc
For the case i would recommend their surprisingly good Pax M70, but i'm not sure about availability.
And don't even think of skipping/postponing an SSD. You don't realize how HUGE difference it makes. I would literally donwgraded a different part for the sake of ssd if i had to. Get a ~250GB one, but be careful to not get Crucial BX200(BX100 is great though, but hard to find) and any Kingston. I don't think getting intel ssd is a good idea, they are good but expensive as hell. The best case scenario would be to find well priced 850 EVO.

You have CX600 psu right now, right? It will be bored. The whole setup will pull maybe 250-300W at most(Furmark). CX600 is a low class psu but the wattage is huge overkill even now. Don't get a new psu right now, you don't need it. Instead get an ssd.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Should i go the extra mile and try to get the mobo with killer lan ? Or stick with whats available , meaning the H170A intel lan.

Given a choice between Intel LAN and Killer LAN, I will choose "non-Killer" because it is gimmicky, not any better, and has a mind of its own (which is being nice).

 

[Cvrk]

Hey op! Did you already bought the case and cooling? If not, check the SilentiumPC stuff, from what i've seen you should be able to get them in your country. They are AMAZING bang4buck, TPU did some reviews on them.
And Fortis 3 blows the be quiet out of the water and is as quiet, if not quieter. It's available in the same shop you linked in your first post: http://www.emag.ro/search/silentiumpc
For the case i would recommend their surprisingly good Pax M70, but i'm not sure about availability.
And don't even think of skipping/postponing an SSD. You don't realize how HUGE difference it makes. I would literally donwgraded a different part for the sake of ssd if i had to. Get a ~250GB one, but be careful to not get Crucial BX200(BX100 is great though, but hard to find) and any Kingston. I don't think getting intel ssd is a good idea, they are good but expensive as hell. The best case scenario would be to find well priced 850 EVO.

You have CX600 psu right now, right? It will be bored. The whole setup will pull maybe 250-300W at most(Furmark). CX600 is a low class psu but the wattage is huge overkill even now. Don't get a new psu right now, you don't need it. Instead get an ssd.

THIS!
Whatever you just said. Everything makes sense. I agree with it almost all. Yes
I know about the psu...it is a corsair, it is 600w....and yes it's bronze...but i still think it's so good. With what i have right now. The fan almost does not spin,and it's so incredible quite. I do believe the most "powerful" part of my low end pc is my low end corsair cx 600 ) It's kinda funny. But everyone everywhere just hates the psu, and "oh no,it's so bronze..get a gold one..it's low end etc etc" So i felt guilty just to have it. Like i have to apologize every time when i mention it . It's silly.

I have been looking at the SilentiumPC. For some reason now i watched more reviews.... it's like the underdog of great cooling. Not many talk about it, and it's literally half the price of a be! quite.
I am not convinced on the cases that SilentiumPC brings.....but OMG! Their so incredible cheap!!! Their like 40 euros (50$). I did read reviews on their cpu cooling ,and everybody is happy . However this thing looks like a monster http://goo.gl/l7wgmm And if you look at the comment section ,one guy has it installed and it looks like the fan is above the ram....i don't know how that is gonna fit with taller ram.

As for the ssd "is a must have". I am not convinced. My cousin that got the i5-6500 has a ssd, and while his pc runs now smood and fast, i don't really care.
My transfer speed is capt at 10Mb/s He goes up to 19. The best optimised webpages load almost instant, i have to wait 1-2 seconds more. literally just 2 seconds more for gamespot.com etc .His windows boots in 50 seconds. Mine boots in 1 minute 48 seconds. My photshop loads in 1 minute, his in about 50 seconds.
Guys am am telling you.... i am so not impressed with ssd's . Sorry....i guess

But here, do you think this one is worth it ? It's an AMD ssd. http://goo.gl/8EtHjU I could get a 2 TB new hdd. I always need more space. ..I am spending all this money for 240 gb...... I think it's a mistake.

Given a choice between Intel LAN and Killer LAN, I will choose "non-Killer" because it is gimmicky, not any better, and has a mind of its own (which is being nice).

Strongly considering your point of view

 

[horik]

From what i saw, if you buy from this site you will get a free case, depending on the quantity you spend.

http://www.pcgarage.ro/orice-placa-de-baza-plus-orice-procesor-plus-orice-placa-video-carcasa-cadou/

 

[Cvrk]

Yes indeed. Thank you for pointing that out.
Unfortunately for me , they send me a used broken laptop 2 years ago on Christmas. Refused to admit that it was broken, even tho i send proof. Refused to pay for my shipping even tho they had to , by law. I did not report them to the state authorities and i had to send the laptop back,and pay for the return shipping. I will NEVER buy from that store again!
But not to worry, they almost every time had bigger prices than emag.ro

 

[slozomby]

But here, do you think this one is worth it ? It's an AMD ssd. http://goo.gl/8EtHjU I could get a 2 TB new hdd. I always need more space. ..I am spending all this money for 240 gb...... I think it's a mistake.

the ssd is for boot and application speed. its not going to help much for gaming. but it generally makes the machine feel quicker. especially older machines with less ram.

on the lower end of the ssd's i'd pick this one instead hhttp://www.emag.ro/solid-state-drive-ssd-samsung-750-evo-250gb-2-5-sata-iii-bulk-mz-750250z/pd/DRWSZ3BBM/ its cheaper and faster than the amd ( which is a rebranded ocz drive)

 

[Hiryougan]

THIS!
Whatever you just said. Everything makes sense. I agree with it almost all. Yes
I know about the psu...it is a corsair, it is 600w....and yes it's bronze...but i still think it's so good. With what i have right now. The fan almost does not spin,and it's so incredible quite. I do believe the most "powerful" part of my low end pc is my low end corsair cx 600 ) It's kinda funny. But everyone everywhere just hates the psu, and "oh no,it's so bronze..get a gold one..it's low end etc etc" So i felt guilty just to have it. Like i have to apologize every time when i mention it . It's silly.

I have been looking at the SilentiumPC. For some reason now i watched more reviews.... it's like the underdog of great cooling. Not many talk about it, and it's literally half the price of a be! quite.
I am not convinced on the cases that SilentiumPC brings.....but OMG! Their so incredible cheap!!! Their like 40 euros (50$). I did read reviews on their cpu cooling ,and everybody is happy . However this thing looks like a monster http://goo.gl/l7wgmm And if you look at the comment section ,one guy has it installed and it looks like the fan is above the ram....i don't know how that is gonna fit with taller ram.

As for the ssd "is a must have". I am not convinced. My cousin that got the i5-6500 has a ssd, and while his pc runs now smood and fast, i don't really care.
My transfer speed is capt at 10Mb/s He goes up to 19. The best optimised webpages load almost instant, i have to wait 1-2 seconds more. literally just 2 seconds more for gamespot.com etc .His windows boots in 50 seconds. Mine boots in 1 minute 48 seconds. My photshop loads in 1 minute, his in about 50 seconds.
Guys am am telling you.... i am so not impressed with ssd's . Sorry....i guess

But here, do you think this one is worth it ? It's an AMD ssd. http://goo.gl/8EtHjU I could get a 2 TB new hdd. I always need more space. ..I am spending all this money for 240 gb...... I think it's a mistake.

Wait, what? His PC with SSD boots in 50 seconds? This is strange. Mine fully boots in below 10 seconds. LITERALLY. There has to be something wrong with his pc.
About that AMD SSD, it's pretty much Crucial BX200 with AMD sticker on it. I think getting the Sandisk one would be a better idea if you want to buy in that shop only: http://www.emag.ro/solid-state-driv...gb-2-5-sata-iii-sdssda-240g-g25/pd/DY4CWMBBM/
And to finish about an ssd... You never know how much you loose when not having it until you get it. Believe me, i was sceptical too.

About that twin tower Grandis cooler from SilentiumPC: yes, it's a bit "cooler" than Fortis 3 but it's much bigger, covers ram and has louder fans and a bit worse finish. I would get Fortis anytime if i was still sticking to air cooling. You saw the review?
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/SilentiumPC/Fortis_3_HE1425/

 

[EarthDog]

113 posts and 5 days and we still don't have a rig purchased?

 

[P4-630]

If you still plan to buy the silent base 600 case, I'm not sure if the silentium pc cooler fits, if it's taller than the CM 212 evo it wont fit....

 

[Hiryougan]

the ssd is for boot and application speed. its not going to help much for gaming. but it generally makes the machine feel quicker. especially older machines with less ram.

on the lower end of the ssd's i'd pick this one instead hhttp://www.emag.ro/solid-state-drive-ssd-samsung-750-evo-250gb-2-5-sata-iii-bulk-mz-750250z/pd/DRWSZ3BBM/ its cheaper and faster than the amd ( which is a rebranded ocz drive)

I wouldn't recommend that one. Literally as the name suggests, it's a downgrade from its predecessor, Samsung 850 Evo. Unlike 850, it doesn't have 3D Nands, it has "normal" TLC. I would get Sandisk on MLC for sure.

If you still plan to buy the silent base 600 case, I'm not sure if the silentium pc cooler fits, if it's taller than the CM 212 evo it wont fit....

Apparently Silent Base 600 can coolers up to 167mm heigh. This is pretty much every cooler on the market and every cooler from SPC.

 

[Dethroy]

As for the ssd "is a must have". I am not convinced. My cousin that got the i5-6500 has a ssd, and while his pc runs now smood and fast, i don't really care.

An SSD is the one component I couldn't live without. I could do with an i3 and a weak GPU, but I'd never ever go back to using HDDs.

My transfer speed is capt at 10Mb/s He goes up to 19. The best optimised webpages load almost instant, i have to wait 1-2 seconds more. literally just 2 seconds more for gamespot.com etc .

What does this have to do with SSDs?

His windows boots in 50 seconds. Mine boots in 1 minute 48 seconds. My photshop loads in 1 minute, his in about 50 seconds.

Sounds like he's using SATA II and/or he's not running in AHCI. Or something else went horribly wrong. Windows 10 on an SSD shouldn't take longer than 20s (30s at max) to boot. Even on the NUC I'm using at work, it doesn't take longer than 13s.

 

[Cvrk]

Sounds like he's using SATA II and/or he's not running in AHCI. Or something else went horribly wrong. Windows 10 on an SSD shouldn't take longer than 20s (30s at max) to boot. Even on the NUC I'm using at work, it doesn't take longer than 13s.

We will have to look into it. Thank you for pointing that out.

Apparently Silent Base 600 can coolers up to 167mm heigh. This is pretty much every cooler on the market and every cooler from SPC.

The be!quite dark rock 3 has 160mm. When they said 167mm did they take in calculation the height of the motherboard (it's 5 mm thickness). 7 mm is pretty close to not be able to close the lid.

113 posts and 5 days and we still don't have a rig purchased?

In all honesty here's how it is. The MSI or the Asus version of the graphics are not out yet. At least not in my country. I suspect by the end of this month we will see the msi in store but the asus. starting with september the asus. I will buy the card (still don't know witch one) cuz i really wanna see the bottleneck. Real life is different than benchmarks. I am expecting a very pleasant surprise. And if that would be the case. I'm not selling the old rig anymore. I am keeping it,and maybe next year will get a R7 amd or something for future Lan parties. Me and my friends could use it. So, that is that. Every day i refresh the webpages stores to see if the RX is available yet. The anticipation is huge. But people here are very nice, and i am learning so much.

 

[EarthDog]

You are a drummer that marches to your own beat... good luck with your purchase.

 

[Hiryougan]

The be!quite dark rock 3 has 160mm. When they said 167mm did they take in calculation the height of the motherboard (it's 5 mm thickness). 7 mm is pretty close to not be able to close the lid.

Nah, you will be easly fine, i saw the review.
Also Fortis 3 is 158mm heigh if you would pick it, same with Grandis.

 

[Cvrk]

@P4-630 have you considered installing your card vertically ?
Found this tutorial

. Looks very good. Do you think there is room to do this in the be!quite 600 case? Do you think using ribbon cables will lose some of the processing power ?

On the other hand ,the more i read,the more i lose hope in the asus rog strix version.

 

[P4-630]

@P4-630 have you considered installing your card vertically ?
Found this tutorial

. Looks very good. Do you think there is room to do this in the be!quite 600 case? Do you think using ribbon cables will lose some of the processing power ?

On the other hand ,the more i read,the more i lose hope in the asus rog strix version.

I think it would fit but you'd have to mod the expensive case, I just have the graphics card in the highest PCIe slot under the CPU cooler which works fine for me.

Not sure if you lose processing power, maybe some other TPU member has some experience with this.

 

[Caring1]

@P4-630 have you considered installing your card vertically ?
Found this tutorial

. Looks very good. Do you think there is room to do this in the be!quite 600 case? Do you think using ribbon cables will lose some of the processing power?

This I like, especially for windowed cases.
An extension ribbon won't make the card run any slower.

 

[Komshija]

Considering CPU coolers, you can still mount Cryorig H7 (if available in your country) or Arctic i32, without any fears that they'll be too tall for a midi-tower PC case. They have relatively silent fans.

For instance, Zalman R1 case, which is quite good and not so expensive, will accept CM Hyper 212 Evo. Deepcool Dukase V2 as well.

My transfer speed is capt at 10Mb/s He goes up to 19. The best optimised webpages load almost instant, i have to wait 1-2 seconds more. literally just 2 seconds more for gamespot.com etc .His windows boots in 50 seconds. Mine boots in 1 minute 48 seconds. My photshop loads in 1 minute, his in about 50 seconds.
Guys am am telling you.... i am so not impressed with ssd's . Sorry....i guess

But here, do you think this one is worth it ? It's an AMD ssd. http://goo.gl/8EtHjU I could get a 2 TB new hdd. I always need more space. ..I am spending all this money for 240 gb...... I think it's a mistake.

If you really want an SSD, go with ADATA SP550 240GB, since its relatively cheap and faster than most in its class. If you are on a strict budget, pick Toshiba P300 2TB. You can also go with Toshiba X300 4TB, since it's one of the fastets (and noisiest) 7200 RPM HDD's on the market: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/post-your-hdd-and-ssd-speeds.151860/

 

[ShiBDiB]

crossfire RX 480 are also an option 2 of those would be pretty overkill for 1080P gaming, even in a cpl years with a few reduced settings depending on how games progress over the same time period.

Crossfire and SLI is never the right answer unless you're just doing it for fun.

 

[Hiryougan]

Crossfire and SLI is never the right answer unless you're just doing it for fun.

Or the single strongest gpu on the market is not enough for you

 

[Cvrk]

Or the single strongest gpu on the market is not enough for you

And there's always this. Not my case tho...not ever probably.
The Z1 Zalman is cheap. However i have a love affair with the be!quite 600 window. Just look at the beauty!