1500$ budget i5 6600k AMD RX 480 Please advise

[P4-630]

With this board witch is Micro ATX http://www.emag.ro/placa-de-baza-msi-socket-1151-ddr4-h110m-pro-vd/pd/DDHSLYBBM/
+ i7 6700k + normal XFury ddr4 ram 16 gb the price is 553$

With z170 atx board http://www.emag.ro/placa-de-baza-msi-socket-1151-z170-a-pro/pd/DGZWSYBBM/
+ i5 6600k + normal ram the price is 521$
With all this but more powerfull ram http://www.emag.ro/memorie-corsair-...xmp-2-0-red-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15r/pd/DNKFH3BBM/ the price is 543$

Witch is the best choice ?

Well IF you have the money I'd go the i7 route, if you need to save some pennies go the i5 z170 route.

 

[Toothless]

You won't get the multitasking of the i7 but you'll get the raw OC'd power of the i5 with the second choice. Just make sure you can cool it.

 

[Cvrk]

i hate OC. It's never been for me. I was always afraid of it. I have build computers with oc for others. I just think it leaves more room for unstable stuff.
I have seen the reviews. The i7 is for multitasking and not so much for gaming. On he other side, on youtube every game has more fps with the i7 when compared to the i5.
I'm gonna go from 3,5 to 3,8 "raw power" on te i5with a small stable OC. The i7 is 4,00 and 8 cores . Forget oc... that's for the cool kids. that like to live dangerous.

 

[EarthDog]

Not all. Have you seen the review? And it does 60FPS in most games.

All, of course not. However there are plenty that can break 3GB now. Imagine in a year from now... 2? The only reason one should get a 3GB card these days is if you don't care about eye candy at 1080p or you run a lower res than 1080p or simply can't afford the 6gb or another card with comprable horsepower and more vram. It won't allow you today to crank some AAA titles...imagine down the road that only gets worse.

 

[Toothless]

i hate OC. It's never been for me. I was always afraid of it. I have build computers with oc for others. I just think it leaves more room for unstable stuff.
I have seen the reviews. The i7 is for multitasking and not so much for gaming. On he other side, on youtube every game has more fps with the i7 when compared to the i5.
I'm gonna go from 3,5 to 3,8 "raw power" on te i5with a small stable OC. The i7 is 4,00 and 8 cores . Forget oc... that's for the cool kids. that like to live dangerous.

If you'd like i can take my i7 and shut off HT for testing. Skylake really isn't an improvement over Haswell so the performance should be pretty accurate.

 

[Kanan]

With this board witch is Micro ATX http://www.emag.ro/placa-de-baza-msi-socket-1151-ddr4-h110m-pro-vd/pd/DDHSLYBBM/
+ i7 6700k + normal XFury ddr4 ram 16 gb the price is 553$

With z170 atx board http://www.emag.ro/placa-de-baza-msi-socket-1151-z170-a-pro/pd/DGZWSYBBM/
+ i5 6600k + normal ram the price is 521$
With all this but more powerfull ram http://www.emag.ro/memorie-corsair-...xmp-2-0-red-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15r/pd/DNKFH3BBM/ the price is 543$

Witch is the best choice ?


P.S. is there a problem if its micro atx ?

Go for the i7 the extra threads easily pay off on the long run, plus if you don't want to overclock it's easily better than the i5 and no risks involved.
The battlefield games especially the new bf1 are a example for games where HTT is nice. Take the i7. Trend in games is going for more than 4 threads anyway.

 

[Cvrk]

If you'd like i can take my i7 and shut off HT for testing. Skylake really isn't an improvement over Haswell so the performance should be pretty accurate.

 

[Cvrk]

Go for the i7 the extra threads easily pay off on the long run, plus if you don't want to overclock it's easily better than the i5 and no risks involved.
The battlefield games especially the new bf1 are a example for games where HTT is nice. Take the i7. Trend in games is going for more than 4 threads anyway.

I believe in your words

It is a financial effort however. I put all the money in it now or keep spening in 2017 down the line. Witch is a bad choice. Rather just give it all now. The broke (no money) scared man in me wanted to go safe and still have a decent future-proof computer.
I see now more and more that 8 cores are in smartphones, not to mention computers. Rather than extravagant, they become the standard...at least for gaming.

And if i get a z170 bord, with stock ram....in 2017-2018 i will put more money to get the bigger higher frequence. And sell this one for half a price. What a complete and utter waste of money. Might as well get it all now.

I never wanted the z170 for oc. I wanted the higher frequence ram

 

[Kanan]

Wise choice, it will pay off.

 

[P4-630]

So.... Any updates?
When will you be upgrading?

 

[peche]

you started the post on:Aug 14, 2016 at 1:53 PM
and ... we are .... Oct 18, 2016 and you haven't done the build? WT* are you waiting for? intel's 10 series core processors?

 

[Greenmousa]

Hey even i upgraded! xD! Btw, coming from an fX8350, my new i5 performs just as well but does way better in games, Battlefield 4 runs fucking awesome right now. I'm just waiting on my new GPU.

And that's what i wanted to talk about, maybe you have better luck than me, THE best RX480 right now, is the XFX RX480 GTR Black Edition, 40% efficiency over any other non stock 480, it's an actual BEAST. If you can, GET THAT ONE, no matter how much you like the other model, this one pulls 20 less watts and the heat dissipation they achieved it's just insane.

So that! A tip! Good luck finishing your build!

 

[peche]

Hey even i upgraded! xD! Btw, coming from an fX8350, my new i5 performs just as well but does way better in games, Battlefield 4 runs fucking awesome right now. I'm just waiting on my new GPU.

And that's what i wanted to talk about, maybe you have better luck than me, THE best RX480 right now, is the XFX RX480 GTR Black Edition, 40% efficiency over any other non stock 480, it's an actual BEAST. If you can, GET THAT ONE, no matter how much you like the other model, this one pulls 20 less watts and the heat dissipation they achieved it's just insane.

So that! A tip! Good luck finishing your build!

you own us a update about the rig, also if possible a Project log about the building of the rig,

Regards,

 

[EarthDog]

You really need to stop swimming in the minutia and make a choice already...

lol, I said that 8/22...

40% efficiency over any other non stock 480, it's an actual BEAST.

what? Can you elaborate on this curious claim...

 

[Greenmousa]

lol, I said that 8/22...


what? Can you elaborate on this curious claim...

Sure:

 

[EarthDog]

12.5 minutes? Where does he say 40% more efficient in the vid?

 

[slozomby]

12.5 minutes? Where does he say 40% more efficient in the vid?

look at the stock power draw of 98 watts with 60c temps during the firestrike loops. 6:55

and 135w/64c when clocked up to 1475. that's well below the norm for a 480. if not exactly 40%

 

[P4-630]

look at the stock power draw of 98 watts with 60c temps during the firestrike loops. 6:55

and 135w/64c when clocked up to 1475. that's well below the norm for a 480. if not exactly 40%

Thats quite impressive then...

 

[EarthDog]

look at the stock power draw of 98 watts with 60c temps during the firestrike loops. 6:55

and 135w/64c when clocked up to 1475. that's well below the norm for a 480. if not exactly 40%

I'd like to know how they managed to do that...the best binned 480 isn't close to 40% under tdp... fans are a couple of watts...better power bits don't help close to that much either...

Something isn't right. I'm wondering if their bios tdp is raised and that is what AB is getting its reading from. That is less than a 470 tdp (110W) stock....

It just doesn't make sense at all.

Same card... 300W load (From system...kill a watt meter...if it was a 100W card, he would have barely broken 200W.

Come on TPU... let's put our critical thinking caps on. If someone tells you their bone stock civic Si can beat a Charger SRT 8 in a quarter mile, would you sit back and just believe it? You don't lose 33% of its tdp (50W) with more efficient fans, binning, and power bits...(the only difference between 480s).

In our review, I pulled 276W from the wall in 3DM FS Extreme at stock speeds (msi gaming x). Also, it's temps settled at 64C.

 

[slozomby]

Come on TPU... let's put our critical thinking caps on. If someone tells you their bone stock civic Si can beat a Charger SRT 8 in a quarter mile, would you sit back and just believe it? You don't lose 33% of its tdp (50W) with more efficient fans, binning, and power bits...(the only difference between 480s).

In our review, I pulled 276W from the wall in 3DM FS Extreme at stock speeds (msi gaming x). Also, it's temps settled at 64C.

not quite a fair analogy. a better one would be to say that a properly built and tuned 103 engine for a Harley gets better mpg and far more hp/torque over stock.


while I agree that we should be skeptical, perhaps @Durvelle27 can chime in on this thread since he actually owns the card in question.

 

[EarthDog]

Fine.. analogy fail...lol! but I'm sure you got the point. Your analogy works, but... is impossible with silicon. You can't tweak power use that much without sacrificing a ton of clocks... which this card clear isn't doing. Full overclocked it never reached the stock tdp!!!! Lol

I can't think of a way chop off 33% of its tdp. Other tests show the same card are reporting what most would consider to be normal power use. I'm thinking since it's the msi OSD, which is based off its monitor, the 100% power is not set at 150W, but higher in the cards bios.

 

[Greenmousa]

The common theory is, Jay overe here got THE best available chip XFX had, hands down, it achieved one hell of an overclock, performs beastly, i don't know it's a freaking lottery winner.

There's actually a thread here at TPU for the XFX 480GTR, while not AS impressive as this one Jay got, it's way better than the reference card.

 

[EarthDog]

It's just not possible though...

 

[Cvrk]

Anybody has experience with these ssd 's ?
I had nothing but trouble since i got this new ssd. It's a nightmare. In all my years never have i had a more unstable and blue screen windows. Checked the ssd with a few softwares. it's 100% healthy.
MY computers crashes from every direction. Since i am a noob, i tried the usual noob solutions. Installed windows and formatted so many times. Changed the cables and sata ports. reseted / battery cmos reset bios. Added all the updates to windows.
It's still a mess. Just now i was writing a post in TPU ,when it crashes.
What i did notice! Very important
Never happens when i am active and working on the computer. Always happens when i am idle. maybe more than 10 minutes. So i was writing the post, left the computer for about few minutes, entered the room, crashed to blue screen and got stuck at "restarting your computer 0%" .... and i had to hard reset the thing, cuz it was dead.

Something to do with power.... I turned off NEVER hibernate / never sleep. Only shut down monitor. Changed around the psu cables, maybe not getting good power ... but if i am active it never gives crash.
Hmmm.... i also remembering having moments when i was installing something on ssd. Last few days ago ,when i was isntalling my sound card drivers,after fresh windows install, and i opened Chrome ,while i left the install to work...mouse stopped working ,all freeeze'd . Had to hard reset. And these kind's of freeze moments when the ssd was working / installing something on it, happen many times, both on Windows 10 and on 8.1
hate the bluescreen, hate the freeze. Never experience nothing like this in the past.

My last noob (no idea what to do ) solution, is to install windows back on to hdd. And use the ssd as a simple storage drive. It defeats the point of having the ssd, but i just wanna see if my computer will be stable again.

 

[P4-630]

Perhaps starting a dedicated thread about this SSD issue?