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Hey guys
I could really use your help here.
So my last build was from 2013-14. (which i still use)
I had a lot to catch up on both AMD and Intel chipsets but i am now up to date. :roll:
My monitor died recently so am on a hunt for a new 1440p ultrawide. I decided since my 6 year monitor died that maybe it will be a good idea to upgrade the whole system or if you guys suggest to upgrade only the video card and wait.
I never overclocked so i don't really care i guess.
I use the system mostly for gaming and obviously daily use (music,internet etc)
Current setup is:
Motherboard: ASUS Rampage IV Extreme Black Edition
Processor: Intel 4930K 3.4 GHz
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400 MHz
Graphics card: eVGA GTX 980 Ti KINGPIN Edition.

I always went with Intel instead of AMD but now i think is a good idea to switch since Intel processors cost a fortune?!
I always find a good idea to spend more on a system that will last more instead on a system that i will need to upgrade in like two years so budget will be around 2200 euros roughly. (Amazon UK)
I have my eyes on:

Motherboard: With motherboards i mostly pick the most expensive (not always) most attractive one (i know am crazy) I have an eye on the MSI Godlike and AORUS Extreme.
Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
Memory: G Skill 32 or 64 GB RGB (or maybe you can suggest a sexier kit) :laugh:
Graphics card: Nvidia 2080 Ti

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Power Supply: Corsair AXi 1200w
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Case: Phanteks Evolv ATX

Any suggestion is appreciated :toast:
Thanks
 
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OC your cpu and upgrade gpu.
 

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I would probably go with an Ryzen 3700X if you are not overclocking coupled with a decent B450 board or if you must a X570, 32GB of 3600mhz ram, choose your flavour but with decent CAS latency and finish off with either a 5700XT or a 2080 super duper.

Alternately, if you wish to go down the Intel route, replace board and CPU above with a 9700 non K and a Z390 board of your choice and budget.
 
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Lmao why buy a 9700 non k and a z390.

If he's not overclocking he doesn't need z390, and should also buy the k version due to it's higher clocks at stock.

Thanks but am a couple of thousand euros out of budget :)
Don't really understand, seeing as your original idea was a 3900x and a 2080ti. These parts are comparable in price.
 
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Lmao why buy a 9700 non k and a z390.

If he's not overclocking he doesn't need z390, and should also buy the k version due to it's higher clocks at stock.


Don't really understand, seeing as your original idea was a 3900x and a 2080ti. These parts are comparable in price.
A 2080 TI is 1050 euro. A 2080 Ti KINGPIN is 2000 euro.
And the Z390 Waterforce Extreme is almost 1100 euro.
The 9900K price is almost the same as 3900X.
 
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Overkilling your build these days was never less attractive.

I kid you not. The top end has very little if anything to offer for gaming over the sub-top. OC potential for example, which is why the 9700 non K is offered over a K variant. CPUs get so hot that you'd need pretty extreme measures to extract meaningful performance wins over a cheaper part without exotic cooling (that's 300-400 bucks right there for a few hundred mhz in best case with favorable silicon lottery).

If you're already on the 2080ti path, yes, get a 3700X or a 9700, even a 9900 non-K is interesting. Going higher is probably just a monumental waste of effort, time, money. 200mhz won't make or break anything. I would strongly lean towards a Ryzen build if I'd build today, even if just for being much more interesting (features get further refined/added and its already in a good place, Intel's Core is pretty much EOL).

I do believe you should upgrade the whole build, That Haswell and platform will limit your GPU - not massively, but measurably, so if you want optimal perf, that's the way to go and there isn't much CPU wise on the near horizon that's going to be major. But you can also limit yourself to GPU for now, you've already got sufficient threads on the CPU (the gain is mostly from DDR4, platform, support and higher clock if you'd upgrade).
 
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Lmao why buy a 9700 non k and a z390.

If he's not overclocking he doesn't need z390, and should also buy the k version due to it's higher clocks at stock.


Don't really understand, seeing as your original idea was a 3900x and a 2080ti. These parts are comparable in price.
Why?
1. Because it's the only flavour that is likely to take a 9th gen out of the box as the H and lower series boards likely will need a Bios flash, the OP does not appear to be an enthusiast.
2. Features and longevity (if there is such a think with Intel).
3. Future options should he wish to give overclocking a go and maybe upgrade to more cores or go multi GPU, Z boards have better power delivery generally.
4. He does not overclock but he currently has a K series CPU and a high end board.
 
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Why?
1. Because it's the only flavour that is likely to take a 9th gen out of the box as the H and lower series boards likely will need a Bios flash, the OP does not appear to be an enthusiast.
2. Features and longevity (if there is such a think with Intel).
3. Future options should he wish to give overclocking a go and maybe upgrade to more cores or go multi GPU, Z boards have better power delivery generally.
4. He does not overclock but he currently has a K series CPU and a high end board.
I am an enthusiast to be honest but ok i was out for long and left a long behind but am trying to get back to things.
As for the 4th one yes that proves i was always going high end with the intention to overclock or whatever. :peace:
 
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If you already considered the 3900X don't downgrade from it. It's a better binned part that will manage to stay at higher clocks and has 50% more cores than the 3700X all at stock.
 
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If you already considered the 3900X don't downgrade from it. It's a better binned part that will manage to stay at higher clocks and has 50% more cores than the 3700X all at stock.
Ok cool thanks.
Do you guys think that any Intel Z390 CPU will perform better on the same price as 3900X? Or i will have to go for the i9X CPU's in order to beat the 3900X?
 
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I am an enthusiast to be honest but ok i was out for long and left a long behind but am trying to get back to things.
As for the 4th one yes that proves i was always going high end with the intention to overclock or whatever. :peace:
You haven't OC'd your cpu, I wouldn't go as far as calling yourself an enthusiast ;)

2080 Ti Kingpin is for hardcore OC enthusiasts, that's why it costs as much as it does. It's meant to be used for beating benchmark scores on LN2, not for gaming.
 
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If you already considered the 3900X don't downgrade from it. It's a better binned part that will manage to stay at higher clocks and has 50% more cores than the 3700X all at stock.
What you are saying makes perfect sense, however I made the 3700X recommendation based on his quoted usage a 3900X whilst desirable is, IMO uneccesary.

OP: In relation to your usage when you say "beat", in gaming there is not a great deal in it, but then again in gaming I don't think you need a 9900K, a 9700(K) would serve you just as well, if your usage was predominantly heavilyy threaded apps I would have recommended the 3900X or 9900k, unless you are happy of course to pay for what you possibly don't use.
 
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Most importantly what are your use cases?
 
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Most importantly what are your use cases?
If you mean what i will use the build for i already said it will be for games and casual daily use
 
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if you want to update the cpu next year and then in 2 years have a fast system then 3600x + a nice 570 mobo; if you want to build it and weld it shut then 9900k and you will have a decent system in 2 years.
 
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If you mean what i will use the build for i already said it will be for games and casual daily use
I must have missed it. Yeah if you're looking for the best gaming performance at 2000+ EUR, I would get the 9900K + 2080 Ti. Although if you think you might want a CPU upgrade later on the same socket or are interested in the multi core of 3900X performance, AMD is a great choice.
 
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To be fair, I think if I had the OP's system - at most - I'd upgrade the graphics card and add-in a nice m.2 for a fairly noticeable overall gain in gaming performance and system responsiveness.


On top of this, a sizable OC on that 4 series CPU will net considerable gains in all areas of the OP's intended use. While the upgrade paths previously mentioned of AMD/Intel look appealing; the chunk of change you need to part with in order to go down that route most certainly isnt as appealing. :roll:
 
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For his usage I think a 3600 non-x on a b450 and a 2070s would be good enough for the next 2 years.
 
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For his usage I think a 3600 non-x on a b450 and a 2070s would be good enough for the next 2 years.
I would prefer a build to stick for more than two years as i don't change very often. Last one is 6 years old and still plays a lot of games. (obviously not in full settings)
 
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You don't need 12-cores for gaming and by the time they will come in handy your 3900X will be outperformed by newer offerings. Case in point, your 4930K.
 
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I would prefer a build to stick for more than two years as i don't change very often. Last one is 6 years old and still plays a lot of games. (obviously not in full settings)
In that case X570 with 3700X-3900X might be worth it, even if only for the potential PCIE4.0 GPU upgrade
 

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I would seriously wait for 3000 series GPU's next year. I bet they will be out before Cyberpunk 2077 which will be a Ray Tracing title and showcase of next gen Ampere.

You will barely get anything out of replacing your 4930K with a Ryzen 3000 chip for gaming. You are looking at a side-grade here.

You don't need 12 cores for gaming. 8C/16T is more than enough and this won't change for years, since next gen consoles will get 8 cores with 1-2 reserved for OS/BG. So keep your 6C/12T a year or two more. In 2021 you'll see a big leap in the CPU department, on Intel side atleast.
 
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I would prefer a build to stick for more than two years as i don't change very often. Last one is 6 years old and still plays a lot of games. (obviously not in full settings)
I get that but where we are I think 2 years is good enough...
Within 2 years:
Intel will be selling GPU's.
AMD and Nvidia will have the RTX thing figured out.
Intel will have a new architecture.
DDR5 will be a thing.
3500/3000 NVME drives will be cheap.

I usually suggest building like you want it to last 5 years but not right now...
 
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