2080 XC ULTRA TI Fans really Loud on Startup

[azngreentea01]

I have bought this card for about 4 months ago. It starting acting weird today after i got the new CPU installed the r9 3900x. Every time my computer startup, the fan on the GPU will ran at full speed really loud for about 4 seconds, once it getting to the login screen then it will stop. I have installed the latest Driver 431.26 and Windows vers. 1903

 

[Bill_Bright]

Are you sure it is the graphics card fans and not the CPU's?

Not sure I would worry about this since it stops after a few seconds.

Note the specific drivers are not loaded until well into the boot process and the boot drive is hit. To me, it makes sense to default to the safest setting (maximum cooling) until the system has time to check the temps and then adjust the fan speed accordingly.

In the meantime, I would double check all wiring to make sure nothing was knocked loose during the CPU install. And when mounting the new CPU, did you thoroughly clean the old TIM (thermal interface material) off the cooler (if using the old cooler) and apply a fresh, new, thin as possible but thorough layer of TIM to the processor? And did you take the necessary ESD precautions (unplug from the wall and touch bare metal of the case interior) BEFORE reaching in to replace the CPU?

 

[azngreentea01]

So this is the weird. I took the 2080ti out and put in another system, the 2080ti start up is not loud at all with about 40% fan speed. While i put an gtx 1070 into the new system with R9 3900x cpu, the GPu is not as loud as 2080ti, but when i put the 2080ti back into the new system, is will start up really loud with 100 % fan speed.

 

[Ramo1203]

Perhaps it's that card's behavior to be 100% before the GFX drivers are loaded. I would ask EVGA support about it.
I have seen this behavior in my RX580 from Aorus, the fan is 100% in BIOS and during boot and once the driver is loaded it slows down.

 

[the54thvoid]

Could it be proper behaviour? Some manufacturers have a reverse fan on start up to clear dust.

 

[azngreentea01]

Could it be proper behaviour? Some manufacturers have a reverse fan on start up to clear dust.

I mean, i put the 2080ti in my old computer, it would not get loud at all, the fan spin up about 40% on start up.
Also, I put a 1070 in the my new computer (3900x), it would not get loud at all also about 40% fan speed on start up.

This is the Spec of my second computer:
PSU: EVGA 750W G3
CPU: I7 6700k
Motherboard: Asrock z270 killer
Ram:G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 3200
SSD: Samsung 850 evo - 250 GB
Cooling: h100 Corsair

 

[Bill_Bright]

So this is the weird. I took the 2080ti out and put in another system, the 2080ti start up is not loud at all with about 40% fan speed. While i put an gtx 1070 into the new system with R9 3900x cpu, the GPu is not as loud as 2080ti, but when i put the 2080ti back into the new system, is will start up really loud with 100 % fan speed.

This not a valid experiment unless both systems use the same motherboard, same BIOS version and same BIOS settings, same Windows version, including same Windows updates and same drivers.

Some manufacturers have a reverse fan on start up to clear dust.

Huh? I have never seen this. Got a link? In fact, I am under the impression most computer component fans have reverse polarity protection just to prevent spinning backwards (and potential damage to the motor).

 

[sneekypeet]

Huh? I have never seen this. Got a link?

Earliest link I could quickly find here..... https://www.techpowerup.com/151660/msi-develops-dust-removal-technology-for-graphics-cards

 

[Bill_Bright]

Thanks, but hmmm. Interesting. I note I have a MSI R7 370 box right here. No mention of Dust Removal Technology yet that article says it will be implemented on all future cards. But I'm not seeing it. Odd. That TPU link is from 2011. Not seeing much of anything since then, or from other makers either.

It seems like a great idea that didn't catch on!

 

[lexluthermiester]

Huh? I have never seen this. Got a link? In fact, I am under the impression most computer component fans have reverse polarity protection just to prevent spinning backwards (and potential damage to the motor).

I've never seen it either...

Earliest link I could quickly find here..... https://www.techpowerup.com/151660/msi-develops-dust-removal-technology-for-graphics-cards

Was this never used/implemented?

It seems like a great idea that didn't catch on!

Agreed, this seems like a great idea. I wonder how practical it is though?

but when i put the 2080ti back into the new system, is will start up really loud with 100 % fan speed.

This could be normal for your setup and your particular set of parts.

 

[azngreentea01]

This could be normal for your setup and your particular set of parts.

I think so too. I will try and switch to different power supply (evga 750 g3) and cpu (r7 1700x) and see any different over the weekend. I am thinking maybe because of the bios on the mother causing issue. I am on the latest bio on Asus Rog Trix x470-f bios v 5007

 

[lexluthermiester]

I am thinking maybe because of the bios on the mother causing issue.

This is possible. The Ryzen 3xxx platform is brand new and most motherboard makers are working to make updates for the new CPUs and fix a few glitches. You should keep an eye on the support page for that board for BIOS updates;

ROG STRIX X470-F GAMING | Motherboards | ROG Global

Best AMD Ryzen ATX motherboard with Aura Sync, SupremeFX, ROG Audio, Dual M.2, Intel LAN, VR functionality, M.2 heatsink and USB 3.1 Gen 2

www.asus.com

 

[silentbogo]

I think so too. I will try and switch to different power supply (evga 750 g3) and cpu (r7 1700x) and see any different over the weekend. I am thinking maybe because of the bios on the mother causing issue. I am on the latest bio on Asus Rog Trix x470-f bios v 5007

Don't bother with PSU. I have the exact same thing on my GTX1060 after switching to Ryzen. I think its either built-in fan profiles acting up, or the way AM4 platform initializes drivers...
Haven't found a solution yet, so for now I'm just getting used to live with it. On my old Skylake rig it was always quiet off the cold start.

 

[sneekypeet]

Was this never used/implemented?

Pretty darn sure. Seen a kid mention on another forum that his R9 270X from MSI had it. Going to look at the product page and see if there is any mention to quote.

Best way to see it..... @ 2:05

 

[Vayra86]

My CPU fan goes straight to 100% on boot on this Asrock board for a few seconds. First board/cpu I had that does such a thing. Don't worry about it. These things can happen and its not always logical.

A problem would be if the fan curve is weird after booting up. As in, erratic.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Pretty darn sure. Seen a kid mention on another forum that his R9 270X from MSI had it. Going to look at the product page and see if there is any mention to quote.

They implemented it for their top of the line graphics cards starting with the 7970 Power edition OC linked to their Twin Frozr IV coolers...... it's mentioned here but not sure if they continued it beyond the HD79XX.....

Overview R7970 Power Edition 3GD5

Welcome to the MSI USA website. MSI designs and creates Mainboard, AIO, Graphics card, Notebook, Netbook, Tablet PC, Consumer electronics, Communication, Barebone, Server, industrial computing, Multimedia, Clean Machine and Car Infotainment.

us.msi.com

 

[sneekypeet]

They implemented it for their top of the line graphics cards starting with the 7970 Power edition OC linked to their Twin Frozr IV coolers...... it's mentioned here but not sure if they continued it beyond the HD79XX.....

Overview R7970 Power Edition 3GD5

Welcome to the MSI USA website. MSI designs and creates Mainboard, AIO, Graphics card, Notebook, Netbook, Tablet PC, Consumer electronics, Communication, Barebone, Server, industrial computing, Multimedia, Clean Machine and Car Infotainment.

us.msi.com

Cheers for the backup. I did end up finding a video I edited in to the earlier post where the box shows the tech being implemented. Although, now checking the OPs specs for the maker, I do not think EVGA uses such technology.

 

[azngreentea01]

My CPU fan goes straight to 100% on boot on this Asrock board for a few seconds. First board/cpu I had that does such a thing. Don't worry about it. These things can happen and its not always logical.

A problem would be if the fan curve is weird after booting up. As in, erratic.

I know what you mean, It just driving me crazy why it doing that, i never seen it happen before.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Pretty darn sure. Seen a kid mention on another forum that his R9 270X from MSI had it. Going to look at the product page and see if there is any mention to quote.

Best way to see it..... @ 2:05

I've actually installed those cards. Guess I just didn't notice.

 

[Tatty_Two]

My CPU fan goes straight to 100% on boot on this Asrock board for a few seconds. First board/cpu I had that does such a thing. Don't worry about it. These things can happen and its not always logical.

A problem would be if the fan curve is weird after booting up. As in, erratic.

My 1070 does the same for around 20 - 30 seconds after the desktop lands and then calms down, I think whatever brand/model of card some are just implemented like that possibly in the Bios.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I know what you mean, It just driving me crazy why it doing that, i never seen it happen before.

It's not common.

 

[EarthDog]

My 1070 does the same for around 20 - 30 seconds after the desktop lands and then calms down, I think whatever brand/model of card some are just implemented like that possibly in the Bios.

Typically its only a few seconds it runs full blast, then calms.

 

[erocker]

It's a 4 second dusting cycle.

 

[azngreentea01]

Well Anyway, thanks guy, i will try and ignore it.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Pretty darn sure. Seen a kid mention on another forum that his R9 270X from MSI had it. Going to look at the product page and see if there is any mention to quote.

Best way to see it..... @ 2:05

Thanks for that. It still does not seem MSI (or any other maker) fully embraced or implemented that feature. I do note that card came out in 2013. And I see that MSI currently shows ~60 different cards on their site but looking at their top AMD and NVIDIA models, I'm not seeing that feature - or at least not seeing it listed.

It's a 4 second dusting cycle.

Except doesn't it seem likely there would be some mention of this feature somewhere in the marketing hype for this card on the card's webpage? If you scroll down a bit to the "icx2 cooling" section, there's nothing! Scroll down more to the Features section and again, nothing. Look at the detailed Spec and Features tabs, still nothing. Download the manual or look at the Specs data sheet, and no mention of any dusting cycle.

@azngreentea01 - could you do us one quick favor? Do a visual inspection and look at the fans during next boot. You should be able to see them spin backwards for a couple seconds, then stop and change direction for normal operation. Does that happen?