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EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 Black 8 GB

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EVGA's GeForce RTX 2070 Black is sold for just $499, a price point at which it has better price/performance than the GTX 1080, GTX 1080 Ti, Vega 56, and Vega 64. Compared to the more expensive RTX 2070 Founders Edition, the performance difference is almost negligible, too.

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Oh noes! I hard-deleted all comment posts by accident, very sorry. If you remember what you wrote, feel free to repost it again
 

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I just said it was a good review, but you had backplate listed as a plus, and no backplate listed as a con. There can be only one. :D
 

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I just said it was a good review, but you had backplate listed as a plus, and no backplate listed as a con. There can be only one. :D
Fixed already :)
 
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Sir, RTX 2080TI's Transistors & Memory info in the 1st page bottom table is incorrect.
 
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Looks are indeed subjective - I personally like the visible and yet protected heatsink. The founders edition is of course a whole other level, feels like an Apple product in a good sense.
 

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Sir, RTX 2080TI's Transistors & Memory info in the 1st page bottom table is incorrect.
Fixed, and also fixed in my reference table so it won't happen again. Thank you
 
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good review (that one and the 9700K) both confirm these product are not worth it for me (mostly because they cost 200/250$ more than a Vega64/2700X and have not the performance leap to justifiy it )

There can be only one. :D
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feels like an Apple product in a good sense.
ah good comparison ... both are overpriced and overinflated brand (tho ... for Apple it's not due to the lack of concurrence )
 
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@W1zzard in the FE review, you have the VRM controller listed as uP9512P, but in this review uP9512R. Since it seems the board design is the same (i.e. EVGA is using the FE design as-is) I question whether they would change the controller, even though the -P and -R seem very similar in terms of features. tl;dr are you certain that the chip used in the FE is the -P and not the -R, as the FE markings have been so obscured that it's really difficult to tell?

Nitpick: the conclusion has the sentence "Then there are the very few who want to eek every last MHz out of the card with overclocking...", you probably meant eke.
 
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No backplate on a $500 GPU.

What a joke, that alone would stop me from ever considering this.
 

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Is this the first time an aftermarket card has performed worse than the reference design? Obviously, it is because eVGA put a lower power limit on the card for some stupid reason. Which really just shows ow limited these cards are by the power limit set on the board.
 

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Is this the first time an aftermarket card has performed worse than the reference design? Obviously, it is because eVGA put a lower power limit on the card for some stupid reason. Which really just shows ow limited these cards are by the power limit set on the board.
I use "Founders" and "reference" fairly interchangeably. Technically the FE is an overclocked custom-design for Turing.

The reference has lower rated boost than the Founders, the EVGA Black has to follow reference clocks because it uses the non-A GPU

I think power limit doesn't play as much a role here as simply the stock clocks being different between EVGA Black and FE
 
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  • No Windows 7 support for RTX, requires Windows 10 Fall 2018 Update
Why the hell is that. They really want to push all the gamers to Bloat-Windows-10 dont they?
 

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Why the hell is that. They really want to push all the gamers to Bloat-Windows-10 dont they?
Because it is part of Direct X 12, that’s why.
 

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It's backwards compatible. There is no such thing as DX12 card only.
Not the cards. Ray tracing, which is what RTX uses, is part of Direct X 12. Please do research. W1z even did an article here just on RTX, I believe.
 
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Not the cards. Ray tracing, which is what RTX uses, is part of Direct X 12. Please do research. W1z even did an article here just on RTX, I believe.

RT is'nt properly benchmarked yet. The thing is; if i was on W7 and i want the fastest card money can buy, it's bullshit that there are no drivers available for W7 in the first place.
 

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Microsoft DirectX Raytracing is available ONLY with the October 2018 update. There's some hoops that you can jump through to get it on April Update, but it's not something that the industry expects from general consumers and gamers.
 
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Microsoft DirectX Raytracing is available ONLY with the October 2018 update. There's some hoops that you can jump through to get it on April Update, but it's not something that the industry expects from general consumers and gamers.

Well RTX features can be accessed by vulkan too(Or is there support for Turing on older windows at all?). And for non-gaming Optix uses RTX backend too. But yeah there's nothing that uses RT be it DXR or vulkan now anyway, so taht is yet to be seen.
 

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RT is'nt properly benchmarked yet.
It really doesn’t matter if it is properly benchmarked yet. We know that RT is not part of DX11 and below.

Nothing, btw, is stopping you from buying the fastest cards known. They would just be limited to non-RT use, i.e. how all games are still currently made.
 
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This is a really minor thing but I like how there is a flat heatsink over the VRM, etc, that can stay on that isn't connected to the main heatsink fins of the card. I wonder if it would be possible to put a custom block on the chip within the space and then keep that black heatsink.





 
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Why the hell is that. They really want to push all the gamers to Bloat-Windows-10 dont they?
The driver support is there. I am running Win7 and have a 2080.
Not the cards. Ray tracing, which is what RTX uses, is part of Direct X 12. Please do research. W1z even did an article here just on RTX, I believe.
However, RTRT is not exclusive to DirectX 12. It can can be done on any API, such as OpenGL & Vulkan and on any OS.
 
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Yeah that is what i was saying. Many hardware features a GPU in general brings does'nt have to be DirectX exclusive only. Back in the days when W7 vs W XP was to move over to W7 to use DX10 features. But little that people knew is that those same features where possible by using OpenGL and such without using DX10 or W7 in general.

But the original convict of this card is that it states that there is no driver support for anything below W10. And that is kind of creepy. I understand that RTX is only usable on W10 / DX12 but still; sounds a bit of bullshit that a card in general could not be used < W10.
 

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But the original convict of this card is that it states that there is no driver support for anything below W10. And that is kind of creepy. I understand that RTX is only usable on W10 / DX12 but still; sounds a bit of bullshit that a card in general could not be used < W10.
No Windows 7 support for raytracing, requires Windows 10 Fall 2018 Update

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