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2500k @4.4Ghz worth upgrading?

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While playing Mafia 3 tonight I started to wonder why my fps drop while cruising through the city. I know the game is poorly optimized but still.. So I did a log of CPU usage and GPU usage and here's how it looks like. The questino is: is my cpu bottlenecking my GPU ? And if not can I switch 970 to 1070?

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what resolution do you game at? Your CPU should be fine. but if you can get 4.9Ghz out of the 2500k (like i could mine) then i dont think there would be much of a bottleneck at all. Bottleneck will be a problem if you go with a 1080 though but for the 1070 it will be fine.
 
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The resolution is 1680x1050. I think I could go higher with OC though now I reached 4,4ghz with even lower voltage than stock and I kinda like it :D
 
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Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
Either push that CPU further, or get a new one. 1680x1050 is pretty CPU bound in a lot of titles.
 
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Lower resolution = higher cpu usage? So maybe i should get a new 1920x1080 screen? :D
 

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Lower resolution = higher cpu usage? So maybe i should get a new 1920x1080 screen? :D
So whats the best way to fix the CPU bottleneck, upgrading the monitor.
It totally makes sense.
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Lower resolution = higher cpu usage? So maybe i should get a new 1920x1080 screen? :D

Absolutely. Try to get at least a 3k (1440p) capable one, if you want my opinion.
 
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Ok so I'll try to oc my cpu to 4,9ghz and if it doesn't help I'll just get 6600k.
 

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@MemQ I know your current resolution isn't especially high, but it still won't hurt to drop it to 1024x768 (or as close as possible) for testing. If those dips lift significantly, then your GPU is the bottleneck.

Note that it can still the case that if you put in something like a GTX 1080 you won't get the full performance out of it with that CPU. I've got the 2700K and am thinking of upgrading to Kaby Lake in the next 6 months or so, depending on how much it lifts those framerates compared to mine.
 

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Benchmark Scores well I've fried a 775' P4 12 years ago, that counts?
So whats the best way to fix the CPU bottleneck, upgrading the monitor.
It totally makes sense.
lol
HD monitors are quite affordable also... so making the upgrade of a great display its like $130 i guess,
Contrary to upgrade CPU + Mobo + Ram + cooler....

:)

Ok so I'll try to oc my cpu to 4,9ghz and if it doesn't help I'll just get 6600k.
no swap the monitor lad, 1080p


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keep the 2500, I sold mine and got a 4690 K, as well as the Xeon eight thread it wasn't worth the upgrade

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as an owner of a 2500k and a 3770k, i directly compared to my brothers 6700k.

As far as pure CPU performance goes, NO. you are not being held back.

Ram performance you might be a small limitation (stock is 1333Mhz, and you can go all the way to 2133 iirc, on a 2500k)
 

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You know, Sandy Bridge had a good long run but, I think it's starting to get to the point where an upgrade would make sense. I'm thinking that skt2066 might be what gets me to upgrade next year from my 3820.
As far as pure CPU performance goes, NO. you are not being held back.
I've encountered single-threaded bottlenecks on more than one occasion. If the OP is almost maxing out all 4 cores then, it might be about time.
 

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Oh and next time i see 'lower res = more CPU usage' stated as a fact, someones going to end up in the mineshafts behind my house. I do not get why that ridiculous myth persists.


You know, Sandy Bridge had a good long run but, I think it's starting to get to the point where an upgrade would make sense. I'm thinking that skt2066 might be what gets me to upgrade next year from my 3820.

I've encountered single-threaded bottlenecks on more than one occasion. If the OP is almost maxing out all 4 cores then, it might be about time.

with a K chip, he can just keep clockin. my 2500k OC'd matched my brothers stock 6700k in all the benches we threw at it. if a 4.5GHz sandy/ivy gets choked, it'll choke on anything.​
 
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with a K chip, he can just keep clockin. my 2500k OC'd matched my brothers stock 6700k in all the benches we threw at it. if a 4.5GHz sandy/ivy gets choked, it'll choke on anything.

i agree, As i stated, I sold norton my 2500k, and it was a beast, went with a 4690k (which SEEMED like a reasonable enough upgrade) I was wrong.
then got a 1231V3 xeon 4C8T, and still, it doesnt justify a $250 purchase.
is the 2500k getting long in the tooth? Yes, is that on its own, reason enough to upgrade? not unless you need one of the "improvements in technology" a newer chip might provide, but if its a upgrade because a buyer feels perf will be increased in a more than small amount, its not justifiable IMO.
 
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Mafia 3 is a different beast. I have my 2500K at 4.8Ghz atm running Mafia 3 I am getting CPU bound. I have found that using "unlimited" as the FPS cap hurts you, it would be more prudent to use the 60FPS option, I can't say why but it uses less CPU which in turn keeps the min framerate higher. I run at 1080p and it's still bottlenecked a lot of the time especially in certain areas and while driving.

You may need to upgrade the CPU if it bothers you that much.
 
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Mafia 3 is a different beast. I have my 2500K at 4.8Ghz atm running Mafia 3 I am getting CPU bound. I have found that using "unlimited" as the FPS cap hurts you, it would be more prudent to use the 60FPS option, I can't say why but it uses less CPU which in turn keeps the min framerate higher. I run at 1080p and it's still bottlenecked a lot of the time especially in certain areas and while driving.

You may need to upgrade the CPU if it bothers you that much.

Just a passing thought.

Could also be your 2500k being 'unstable' with that OC. you're pushing what the VRMs are capable of on your motherboard.
 
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Just a passing thought.

Could also be your 2500k being 'unstable' with that OC. you're pushing what the VRMs are capable of on your motherboard.

Possibly but I did have it at 4.6Ghz which is perfectly stable and it was still CPU bound, I pushed harder to see if it would help, didn't seem like it did.

When I do the CPUZ benchmark my score @ 4.8Ghz is almost exactly what a 6600k gets at stock, which is a little depressing. :p
 

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Short answer: no.

Long answer: If you want to spend a bunch of money, you'll get a little more performance, energy efficiency, and maybe some other features that may be of interest to you (like M.2 SSDs). Is it worth all that money spent to you?

To clear up bottlenecking:
When people talk about higher CPU usage at lower resolutions, that happens because at low resolutions the GPU and crank out frames faster than at a high resolution. In other words, you've made the GPU's job significantly easier. What happens when you do that? You are isolating the CPU, seeing just how much it can deliver to the GPU, which is now processing much faster in this fake situation.

If you buy a bigger monitor and raise the resolution, you're going in the other direction. You're forcing the GPU to do more work than what it was before you started running a higher resolution. You could see reduced CPU usage here, but that happens because you're maxing out your GPU faster than your CPU.

In short, unless you have a GTX1080 Ti and a Pentium D, stop worrying about bottlenecking. It's not going to matter unless you have a really huge difference. Of course, there are some exceptions, like heavily CPU bound games (think RTS games). I can always get better performance in Supreme Commander 2 by upgrading my processor, but it won't matter which GPU I have, within reason. If I get a GTX1080 Ti, it won't touch my SIM score.
 
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Wait for Zen before choosing.

This is what I am doing. My 2500k is currently at 4.5GHz because I deemed it good enough there. Haven't really seen any issue with my gaming, even after the GTX 1080.

If Zen is even close to Intel's greatest, at a cheaper price, I'm jumping back to AMD (had an old Opteron 170 system for a while. It was awesome).
 

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My answer is no, just oc the unit further.
 

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It looks to me like your GPU is under more strain than your CPU.

I say get the GTX 1070. It wont hurt.

If it does hurt your CPU then you can decide what CPU you would like to upgrade but for the time being, a 1070 would sit nicely.
 
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