2TB WD SN770 NVME for £99 - what am i missing?

dgianstefani · Jul 22, 2023

dont whant to set it' said:
4TB m.2 from Crucial were £140ish and £155ish for the P3 and P3plus respectively during the Amazon Prime days summer sale.
I chickened out because not in need for extra storage upgrade for my PCs.

QLC, not worth the risk.

iameatingjam · Jul 23, 2023

freeagent said:
I just bought an SN850X 2TB for 134 CAD

Me too..... Well I bought it for $155 and got $20 gift card when I complained that the price went down right after I bought it. But crazy, isn't it?

dont whant to set it' said:
4TB m.2 from Crucial were £140ish and £155ish for the P3 and P3plus respectively during the Amazon Prime days summer sale.
I chickened out because not in need for extra storage upgrade for my PCs.

Good. I wouldn't buy a qlc ssd when tlcs are this cheap.

chrcoluk · Jul 23, 2023

My SN850X compared to 980 pro, latter has advantage of being on CPU routed lanes as well. The 980 pro is 1TB, SN850X 2TB.

WD did reply to my complaint about their store, I noticed it days later, they did offer to price match Amazon, but told them I already purchased from Amazon so no worries.

Mussels · Jul 23, 2023

wheresmycar said:
so this issue is less prevalent on AMD boards (in particular: B/X-series)?

Yes, the extra lanes help them a lot. The closest i've seen is the final physical x16 slot (4x electrical) can be shared with a third NVME slot, or between all 1x slots on a board - this is why most of them dont include that final slot anyway.

dgianstefani said:
QLC, not worth the risk.

Eh, depends on the drive and it's intended usage. For an OS drive i'd not use TLC or QLC, but years ago we also said to never use MLC or TLC, yet you can't even buy SLC anymore.

iameatingjam · Jul 23, 2023

chrcoluk said:
My SN850X compared to 980 pro, latter has advantage of being on CPU routed lanes as well. The 980 pro is 1TB, SN850X 2TB.

WD did reply to my complaint about their store, I noticed it days later, they did offer to price match Amazon, but told them I already purchased from Amazon so no worries.

Interesting, check this out, its the sn850x vs the netac nv7000 ( the totally obscure chinese brand). Both 2TB. I expected WD to dominate but they are almost trading blows.

The Netac is on the cpu lanes. But on the other hand, its also partitioned out and half full where as the WD doesn't have a file on it so... not really a fair match up I guess

wheresmycar · Jul 23, 2023

iameatingjam said:
Interesting, check this out, its the sn850x vs the netac nv7000 ( the totally obscure chinese brand). Both 2TB. I expected WD to dominate but they are almost trading blows.

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The Netac is on the cpu lanes. But on the other hand, its also partitioned out and half full where as the WD doesn't have a file on it so... not really a fair match up I guess

looks good!

I haven't heard of Netac before so ran a quick search - looks like TPUs covered it already with a big thumbs up and zero negatives (except high price which stands true a year-later based on amazon listings): https://www.techpowerup.com/review/netac-nv7000-2-tb-m-2-nvme-ssd/

chrcoluk · Jul 23, 2023

@iameatingjam Interesting your chipset lanes SN850X is outperforming mine notably % wise in single threaded 4k, same file test size as well.

SiggiTheHun · Jul 23, 2023

chrcoluk said:
@iameatingjam Interesting your chipset lanes SN850X is outperforming mine notably % wise in single threaded 4k, same file test size as well.

I´d say "Game Mode" on.

iameatingjam · Jul 23, 2023

wheresmycar said:
looks good!

I haven't heard of Netac before so ran a quick search - looks like TPUs covered it already with a big thumbs up and zero negatives (except high price which stands true a year-later based on amazon listings): https://www.techpowerup.com/review/netac-nv7000-2-tb-m-2-nvme-ssd/

Must be a regional thing, I bought it last year because it was the cheapest gen 4 ssd with dram that I could find. Right now on amazon.ca its $140 CAD or according to google conversion, 82 gbp. (for 2TB)

SiggiTheHun said:
I´d say "Game Mode" on.

That could be it.

Mussels · Jul 24, 2023

Don't forget that where the drives are connected matters too, direct CPU lanes make them perform faster than on chipset lanes - and these are HBM drives, so RAM performance speeds some tasks up, especially low latency

iameatingjam · Jul 24, 2023

Mussels said:
and these are HBM drives, so RAM performance speeds some tasks up, especially low latency

Which drives are hmb? The sn770? I guess we've wandered off topic a bit. Afaik the nv7000, 980 pro, and the sn850x all have their own dram. And in the case of the sn850x, both were on chipset lanes. I've heard of game mode doing weird things. @chrcoluk hasn't gotten back to us yet as to whether he's using it or not.

chrcoluk · Jul 24, 2023

iameatingjam said:
Which drives are hmb? The sn770? I guess we've wandered off topic a bit. Afaik the nv7000, 980 pro, and the sn850x all have their own dram. And in the case of the sn850x, both were on chipset lanes. I've heard of game mode doing weird things. @chrcoluk hasn't gotten back to us yet as to whether he's using it or not.

I am using whatever the default is, I havent yet installed WD's software. Drive is still empty.

Installed the dashboard now, gaming mode 2.0 is off.

iameatingjam · Jul 24, 2023

chrcoluk said:
I am using whatever the default is, I havent yet installed WD's software. Drive is still empty.

Installed the dashboard now, gaming mode 2.0 is off.

Hmmm yeah I really don't know what that would be then, perhaps something to do with the cpu or motherboard? Anyway, I'm sure it's not enough that you'd notice in real life usage.

chrcoluk · Jul 25, 2023

iameatingjam said:
Hmmm yeah I really don't know what that would be then, perhaps something to do with the cpu or motherboard? Anyway, I'm sure it's not enough that you'd notice in real life usage.

I noticed it, but dont really care, I have confirmed gaming mode is off and thats it really.

chrcoluk · Sep 13, 2023

iameatingjam said:
Hmmm yeah I really don't know what that would be then, perhaps something to do with the cpu or motherboard? Anyway, I'm sure it's not enough that you'd notice in real life usage.

Is better now. Attaching also with q32t1.

Space Lynx · Sep 14, 2023

I'm debating between Solodigm P44 Pro 2TB and SN770 2TB for my new gaming drive, SN770 2TB is $84 USD, and P44 Pro 2TB is $99 USD... which would you go with? I am leaning towards the P44 Pro 2TB... technically I don't need it, but the price is so dang good, eh.

Remeca · Sep 14, 2023

Space Lynx said:
I'm debating between Solodigm P44 Pro 2TB and SN770 2TB for my new gaming drive, SN770 2TB is $84 USD, and P44 Pro 2TB is $99 USD... which would you go with? I am leaning towards the P44 Pro 2TB... technically I don't need it, but the price is so dang good, eh.

I just got a 2tb sn770 for my game drive, it's been great, I'm getting a 500GB one for a boot drive.

Space Lynx · Sep 14, 2023

Remeca said:
I just got a 2tb sn770 for my game drive, it's been great, I'm getting a 500GB one for a boot drive.

I have a 500gb one for my boot drive too. but at $99 I think I am going to go with the P44 Pro 2, cause I plan to move to Linux someday permanently, and the controller on the SN770 only gives boosted speeds in Windows.

edit: I just realized I answered me own question, RIP me.

iameatingjam · Sep 14, 2023

Space Lynx said:
I'm debating between Solodigm P44 Pro 2TB and SN770 2TB for my new gaming drive, SN770 2TB is $84 USD, and P44 Pro 2TB is $99 USD... which would you go with? I am leaning towards the P44 Pro 2TB... technically I don't need it, but the price is so dang good, eh.

I'm biased against drives without dram. But I would say the Solodigm P44 Pro for sure. Why settle for middle of the road when the difference is only $15?

chrcoluk said:
Is better now. Attaching also with q32t1.

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What changed?

Space Lynx · Sep 14, 2023

iameatingjam said:
I'm biased against drives without dram. But I would say the Solodigm P44 Pro for sure. Why settle for middle of the road when the difference is only $15?

What changed?

only reason I even considered it is because my sn770 has treated me so damn well, and its snappy as heck.

Remeca · Sep 14, 2023

iameatingjam said:
I'm biased against drives without dram. But I would say the Solodigm P44 Pro for sure. Why settle for middle of the road when the difference is only $15?

What changed?

It's a bit bigger difference for me, it costs the same for a 512gb P44 Pro as a 1TB SN770.

freeagent · Sep 14, 2023

I have a couple SN770 1TB in my rig for storage, they are good. I have a 1TB SN770 as a boot drive in my sons rig, it feels pretty good. Better than the SN750 500GB that was in it before..

iameatingjam · Sep 14, 2023

Remeca said:
It's a bit bigger difference for me, it costs the same for a 512gb P44 Pro as a 1TB SN770.

No judgement man. Prices are always changing in place and time. Whats a great deal one day is a terrible deal the day next day and vice versa. All the sn850x's original reviews complain about its price, then all of a sudden its was the cheapest thing you could buy.

Space Lynx · Sep 14, 2023

iameatingjam said:
No judgement man. Prices are always changing in place and time. What a great deal one day is a terrible deal the day next day and vice versa. All the sn850x's original reviews complain about its price, then all of a sudden its the cheapest thing you can buy.

sn850x is 20 more than p44 pro and scores less in 4k iops where I live, so 44 pro is a win win for me.

freeagent · Sep 14, 2023

I am too chicken to break away from WD, I have been using them since forever, and I think I even have the original 64GB WD Blue kicking around somewhere..

The time I broke away to run a 120GB RevoDrive, it died within a year or so. Then I tried Intel and really like them, have a few of their SSDs kicking around.. and I tried a Crucial and it died.

Bleh. I should ask my buddy if he still has the original G.Skill 64GB SSD.. I lent it to him like 15 years ago.. have not heard from him lately :rolleyes:

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