• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

3200 CL16 or 3600 CL19 ?

Joined
May 29, 2017
Messages
283 (0.11/day)
Location
Latvia
Processor AMD Ryzen™ 7 5700X
Motherboard ASRock B450M Pro4-F R2.0
Cooling Arctic Freezer A35
Memory Lexar Thor 32GB 3733Mhz CL16
Video Card(s) PURE AMD Radeon™ RX 7800 XT 16GB
Storage Lexar NM790 2TB + Lexar NS100 2TB
Display(s) HP X34 UltraWide IPS 165Hz
Case XPG Starker AIR
Audio Device(s) Airpulse SM200 + Volt 1 + Rode NT1 SS
Power Supply Cougar GEX 750
Mouse Cooler Master MM730
Keyboard Krux Atax PRO Gateron Yellow
Software Windows 10 Pro
Hi! TechPowerUp forums....

Just a simple question which memory is faster ? Price difference is almost negligible.

DDR4-3200MHz CL16-18-18-36 or DDR4-3600MHz CL19-20-20-40 ?
 
D

Deleted member 67555

Guest
I would check the forums of the manufacturer of the 3600 and see if it can match the timings of the 3200 @3200 and if so buy it
 
Joined
Jun 3, 2018
Messages
911 (0.43/day)
Location
Al Balqa', Jordan
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 2600 (Covered with Cooler Master MasterGel Pro)
Motherboard ASRock B450 Steel Legend, BIOS Version: 8.01 [Beta]
Cooling Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML120L V2 RGB, 5x Galax Vortex Wind-02 (3xFront Intake, 2x Top exhaust)
Memory Kingston FURY Beast RGB 3600 MT/s 32 GB (8 GB x4), (KF436C17BBA/8)
Video Card(s) Palit GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Dual OC
Storage Kingston NV2 1 TB
Display(s) MSI PRO M251 (HDMI), Running @104 Hz
Case Cooler Master MasterBox MB520
Audio Device(s) HP H360G USB
Power Supply Cooler Master MWE 550 80+ White
Mouse HP G200 Black
Keyboard Redragon MITRA K551-1 RGB
Software Windows 11 Home
DDR4-3600MHz CL19-20-20-40 is faster , but don't expect it to give you advantage over the DDR4-3200MHz CL16-18-18-36 , the difference in gaming is almost 1 FPS.
 
Joined
May 28, 2005
Messages
4,994 (0.73/day)
Location
South of England
System Name Box of Distraction
Processor Ryzen 7 1800X
Motherboard Crosshair VI Hero
Cooling Custom watercooling
Memory G.Skill TridentZ 2x8GB @ 3466MHz CL14 1T
Video Card(s) EVGA 1080Ti FE. WC'd & TDP limit increased to 360W.
Storage Samsung 960 Evo 500GB & WD Black 2TB storage drive.
Display(s) Asus ROG Swift PG278QR 27" 1440P 165hz Gsync
Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro M
Audio Device(s) Phillips Fidelio X2 headphones / basic Bose speakers
Power Supply EVGA Supernova 750W G3
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Cherry MX Board 6.0 (mx red switches)
Software Win 10 & Linux Mint
Benchmark Scores https://hwbot.org/user/infrared
I expect they'd perform fairly similarly with those respective timings. And as jmcslob is saying, you will likely find that the 3600 CL19 kit can run at 3200 CL16 just fine (and vice versa), in which case you could run a few benchmarks and favorite games/apps to decide which configuration to stick with. If I was buying for myself I'd personally go for the higher frequency kit if price was similar.
 

Tatty_Two

Gone Fishing
Joined
Jan 18, 2006
Messages
25,789 (3.89/day)
Location
Worcestershire, UK
Processor Rocket Lake Core i5 11600K @ 5 Ghz with PL tweaks
Motherboard MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK
Cooling Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE + 4 Phanteks 140mm case fans
Memory 32GB (4 x 8GB SR) Patriot Viper Steel 4133Mhz DDR4 @ 3600Mhz CL14@1.45v Gear 1
Video Card(s) Asus Dual RTX 4070 OC
Storage WD Blue SN550 1TB M.2 NVME//Crucial MX500 500GB SSD (OS)
Display(s) AOC Q2781PQ 27 inch Ultra Slim 2560 x 1440 IPS
Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Windowed - Gunmetal
Audio Device(s) Onboard Realtek ALC1200/SPDIF to Sony AVR @ 5.1
Power Supply Seasonic CORE GM650w Gold Semi modular
Mouse Coolermaster Storm Octane wired
Keyboard Element Gaming Carbon Mk2 Tournament Mech
Software Win 10 Home x64
Pretty much unnoticeable but the correct answer may be software and platform/chipset dependant, some programmes and even games like high bandwidth, some prefer low latency and some platforms and chipsets may give you a high bench score with higher bandwidth with others vice versa. if it were me, I would go for the 3200 @ 16, I like lower latency and for me 3200mhz is still decent bandwidth.
 

newtekie1

Semi-Retired Folder
Joined
Nov 22, 2005
Messages
28,472 (4.25/day)
Location
Indiana, USA
Processor Intel Core i7 10850K@5.2GHz
Motherboard AsRock Z470 Taichi
Cooling Corsair H115i Pro w/ Noctua NF-A14 Fans
Memory 32GB DDR4-3600
Video Card(s) RTX 2070 Super
Storage 500GB SX8200 Pro + 8TB with 1TB SSD Cache
Display(s) Acer Nitro VG280K 4K 28"
Case Fractal Design Define S
Audio Device(s) Onboard is good enough for me
Power Supply eVGA SuperNOVA 1000w G3
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
I think people put waaay too much thought into how much memory affects performance once you go past 2933... So my answer, buy the cheapest one of the two, even if it is only $5 cheaper, because you won't actually notice the difference.
 

cadaveca

My name is Dave
Joined
Apr 10, 2006
Messages
17,232 (2.63/day)
pretty much equal with those speeds and timings. Pretty sure one of my memory reviews shows this, but with 16-16-16 @ 3200 and 19-19-19 @ 3600.

3200 C14 is the best option, if you can find/afford it, second would be 4000 MHz, but many boards can't do that speed, making me go back to 3200 C14.

because you won't actually notice the difference.
Oh, I notice. Especially on my systems with no SSDs...every little bit counts there.
 
Joined
Aug 6, 2017
Messages
7,412 (3.07/day)
Location
Poland
System Name Purple rain
Processor 10.5 thousand 4.2G 1.1v
Motherboard Zee 490 Aorus Elite
Cooling Noctua D15S
Memory 16GB 4133 CL16-16-16-31 Viper Steel
Video Card(s) RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio
Storage SU900 128,8200Pro 1TB,850 Pro 512+256+256,860 Evo 500,XPG950 480, Skyhawk 2TB
Display(s) Acer XB241YU+Dell S2716DG
Case P600S Silent w. Alpenfohn wing boost 3 ARGBT+ fans
Audio Device(s) K612 Pro w. FiiO E10k DAC,W830BT wireless
Power Supply Superflower Leadex Gold 850W
Mouse G903 lightspeed+powerplay,G403 wireless + Steelseries DeX + Roccat rest
Keyboard HyperX Alloy SilverSpeed (w.HyperX wrist rest),Razer Deathstalker
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores A LOT
3600 c19 slightly faster than 3200 c16, best get 3200 c14.
 
Joined
May 29, 2017
Messages
283 (0.11/day)
Location
Latvia
Processor AMD Ryzen™ 7 5700X
Motherboard ASRock B450M Pro4-F R2.0
Cooling Arctic Freezer A35
Memory Lexar Thor 32GB 3733Mhz CL16
Video Card(s) PURE AMD Radeon™ RX 7800 XT 16GB
Storage Lexar NM790 2TB + Lexar NS100 2TB
Display(s) HP X34 UltraWide IPS 165Hz
Case XPG Starker AIR
Audio Device(s) Airpulse SM200 + Volt 1 + Rode NT1 SS
Power Supply Cougar GEX 750
Mouse Cooler Master MM730
Keyboard Krux Atax PRO Gateron Yellow
Software Windows 10 Pro
Thanks for answers! I will go for 3600 CL19... 3200 CL14 costs way more than that!

System will be upcoming i9-9900k...
 
Joined
Aug 6, 2017
Messages
7,412 (3.07/day)
Location
Poland
System Name Purple rain
Processor 10.5 thousand 4.2G 1.1v
Motherboard Zee 490 Aorus Elite
Cooling Noctua D15S
Memory 16GB 4133 CL16-16-16-31 Viper Steel
Video Card(s) RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio
Storage SU900 128,8200Pro 1TB,850 Pro 512+256+256,860 Evo 500,XPG950 480, Skyhawk 2TB
Display(s) Acer XB241YU+Dell S2716DG
Case P600S Silent w. Alpenfohn wing boost 3 ARGBT+ fans
Audio Device(s) K612 Pro w. FiiO E10k DAC,W830BT wireless
Power Supply Superflower Leadex Gold 850W
Mouse G903 lightspeed+powerplay,G403 wireless + Steelseries DeX + Roccat rest
Keyboard HyperX Alloy SilverSpeed (w.HyperX wrist rest),Razer Deathstalker
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores A LOT
You can always try to OC too
 

cadaveca

My name is Dave
Joined
Apr 10, 2006
Messages
17,232 (2.63/day)
3200 CL14 costs way more than that!
Samsung IC required for this does cost a fair bit, hence the price increase. You also then have the chance to hit some crazy OCs if you want to OC ram, but I know that's not everyone's cup of tea. 3600 MHz is a good middle ground in cost vs performance, yep, yep.
 
Joined
May 29, 2017
Messages
283 (0.11/day)
Location
Latvia
Processor AMD Ryzen™ 7 5700X
Motherboard ASRock B450M Pro4-F R2.0
Cooling Arctic Freezer A35
Memory Lexar Thor 32GB 3733Mhz CL16
Video Card(s) PURE AMD Radeon™ RX 7800 XT 16GB
Storage Lexar NM790 2TB + Lexar NS100 2TB
Display(s) HP X34 UltraWide IPS 165Hz
Case XPG Starker AIR
Audio Device(s) Airpulse SM200 + Volt 1 + Rode NT1 SS
Power Supply Cougar GEX 750
Mouse Cooler Master MM730
Keyboard Krux Atax PRO Gateron Yellow
Software Windows 10 Pro
DDR4-3600 by default already is very high frequency right? Is it real to overclock it even further on z370 or z470 motherboard ?
 

cadaveca

My name is Dave
Joined
Apr 10, 2006
Messages
17,232 (2.63/day)
DDR4-3600 by default already is very high frequency right? Is it real to overclock it even further on z370 or z470 motherboard ?
a little bit, but some sticks top out @ just 3733 MHz. And yeah, many boards don't go that high, even, most stop real memory support @ 3600 MHz. A guy like me that's into memory like to go for 4500 MHz+, but this requires expensive motherboards.
 

sneekypeet

Retired Super Moderator
Joined
Apr 12, 2006
Messages
29,407 (4.49/day)
System Name EVA-01
Processor Intel i7 13700K
Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus Z690 HERO EVA Edition
Cooling ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 with Noctua Industrial Fans
Memory PAtriot Viper Elite RGB 96GB @ 6000MHz.
Video Card(s) Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 3090 24GB OC EVA Edition
Storage Addlink S95 M.2 PCIe GEN 4x4 2TB
Display(s) Asus ROG SWIFT OLED PG42UQ
Case Thermaltake Core P3 TG
Audio Device(s) Realtek on board > Sony Receiver > Cerwin Vegas
Power Supply be quiet DARK POWER PRO 12 1500W
Mouse ROG STRIX Impact Electro Punk
Keyboard ROG STRIX Scope TKL Electro Punk
Software Windows 11
Technically the 3200 kit has slightly better overall latency.
 
  • Like
Reactions: xvi
Joined
Mar 18, 2015
Messages
2,960 (0.90/day)
Location
Long Island
Each app responds differently to speed and timings so what is faster in one app might be slow than another.... but one broad "rule of thumb"

CAS x 1000 / Speed = lower is better

16 x 1000 / 3200 = 5.00

19 x 1000 / 3600 = 5.27
 

las

Joined
Nov 14, 2012
Messages
1,533 (0.37/day)
System Name Obsolete / Waiting for Zen 5 or Arrow Lake
Processor i9-9900K @ 5.2 GHz @ 1.35v / No AVX Offset
Motherboard AsRock Z390 Taichi
Cooling Custom Water
Memory 32GB G.Skill @ 4000/CL15
Video Card(s) Gainward RTX 4090 Phantom / Undervolt + OC
Storage Samsung 990 Pro 2TB + WD SN850X 1TB + 64TB NAS/Server
Display(s) 27" 1440p IPS @ 280 Hz + 77" QD-OLED @ 144 Hz VRR
Case Fractal Design Meshify C
Audio Device(s) Asus Essence STX / Upgraded Op-Amps
Power Supply Corsair RM1000x / Native 12VHPWR
Mouse Logitech G Pro Wireless Superlight
Keyboard Corsair K60 Pro / MX Low Profile Speed
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
None of those are considered good memory in my book. 3200/C16 is best tho. You'll be looking at some cheap Hynix modules probably.

For "high end" mem
3200 should be C15 tops
3600 should be C16 tops

I don't like C17 or higher regardless of speed, because alot of programs and games does not like high latency. Balance is best.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jan 8, 2017
Messages
8,810 (3.35/day)
System Name Good enough
Processor AMD Ryzen R9 7900 - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora Edge
Motherboard ASRock B650 Pro RS
Cooling 2x 360mm NexXxoS ST30 X-Flow, 1x 360mm NexXxoS ST30, 1x 240mm NexXxoS ST30
Memory 32GB - FURY Beast RGB 5600 Mhz
Video Card(s) Sapphire RX 7900 XT - Alphacool Eisblock Aurora
Storage 1x Kingston KC3000 1TB 1x Kingston A2000 1TB, 1x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB , 1x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
Display(s) LG UltraGear 32GN650-B + 4K Samsung TV
Case Phanteks NV7
Power Supply GPS-750C
Get the 3600mhz, I reckon you should be able to lower the timings a bit.
 

las

Joined
Nov 14, 2012
Messages
1,533 (0.37/day)
System Name Obsolete / Waiting for Zen 5 or Arrow Lake
Processor i9-9900K @ 5.2 GHz @ 1.35v / No AVX Offset
Motherboard AsRock Z390 Taichi
Cooling Custom Water
Memory 32GB G.Skill @ 4000/CL15
Video Card(s) Gainward RTX 4090 Phantom / Undervolt + OC
Storage Samsung 990 Pro 2TB + WD SN850X 1TB + 64TB NAS/Server
Display(s) 27" 1440p IPS @ 280 Hz + 77" QD-OLED @ 144 Hz VRR
Case Fractal Design Meshify C
Audio Device(s) Asus Essence STX / Upgraded Op-Amps
Power Supply Corsair RM1000x / Native 12VHPWR
Mouse Logitech G Pro Wireless Superlight
Keyboard Corsair K60 Pro / MX Low Profile Speed
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
Or just get 3200/CL14 or 3600/CL15-16 to begin with, yes they are more expensive than 3200/C16 and 3600/CL19.
If you're a high fps gamer, you'll notice the difference. 5-10% depending on game. Worth the price difference? For some ;)
 
Last edited:
Top