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ok so im building a new sys but cant decide on witch version of windows to run.
on my current rig i have 32bit and works fine except the memory issue, but i was really leaning towards a 64bit, would like some opinions, only reason im asking is ive currently read allot of things about the 64bit not working or having compatibility issues... need to know if its true.
thanks everyone!
 

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Doesn't hurt to try out 64-bit, I tried XP Pro X64, it was pretty stable. But SP3 RC2 32bit is snappier at least in my experience, 64 also takes more memory due to how it allocates, so when I get 4GB I will go with 64 bit because it's better at allocating and more stable than 32-bit.

I had no real compatability issues in 64-bit, a couple small issues here and there that are either fine to live without or a patch to fix for use. Don't expect all of the newest released betas and stuff to be supported necessarily, but it's better than years' past. Definately worth a shot.

I'll stick with 32-bit for now, but may jump on 64-bit when I do a new build! :toast:
 

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yea thats bout the only reason i want to upgrade to 64 is because ill prob be doing 4 or more gigs of mem on my new build
 

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Well if you want to see more than 3-3.2GB of that memory than 64-bit is your only option. I haven't tried Vista 64, but I'm sure it's decent, I've heard 50-50 with it.

I have no real reason to go 4 gigs yet, unless I find a irresistable deal somewhere! There's place you can read about 64-bit vs 32-bit OS's, just google and you can read up a tad more and better educate yourself to see if that's the right path for you to take.

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thanks again but i want to go 4 or more because im tired of having to constantly upgrade my sys to keep up with games and what not...so im just trying to future proof my self thats all going to do a build log of my new sys, going to be pretty BA...
 

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x64... but make sure your hardware supports it; all of mine did except my wireless card.
 
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Its in some ways a shot in the dark. I think most things now work just fine w/ 64 bit, probably the only incompatible things are very minor. However, there is always a chance, your hardware looks like it should be solid though.
 
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Doesn't hurt to try out 64-bit, I tried XP Pro X64, it was pretty stable. But SP3 RC2 32bit is snappier at least in my experience, 64 also takes more memory due to how it allocates, so when I get 4GB I will go with 64 bit because it's better at allocating and more stable than 32-bit.

I had no real compatability issues in 64-bit, a couple small issues here and there that are either fine to live without or a patch to fix for use. Don't expect all of the newest released betas and stuff to be supported necessarily, but it's better than years' past. Definately worth a shot.

I'll stick with 32-bit for now, but may jump on 64-bit when I do a new build! :toast:

I ran into a few that required certain windows DLL's. TGSoft really needs to update Style XP, i bought it and can't use it untill they update, i went back to XP 32bit
 

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Just to let you know VISTA 64 works well.
If you have VISTA 32bit on your system you will need to do a reformat of your hard disc, for some reason VISTA 64bit does not install over 32bit OS.
 

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thanks everyone, but i wont be using the hardware on my sys specs, im using it for my new build, and i spent some time making sure that everything worked with 64bit last night...all is good, going with 64bit!
 
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Well I just recntly moved to 64 Bit Vista from 32 Bit and I have got to say it feels pretty much the same. If anything it is faster and more stable and a deffent plus is the 4GB of RAM I'll have next week.:D
 

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good call now all i have to do is decide if i want 4gb or 8gb or ram, i would think that 8 might be a little harder on the proc but im not really all that sure?
 
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Id say go for 4gig and the only prob i had with vista 64bit was itunes not working properly found drivers online now working fine.
 
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Well...I had a tiny problem when I went to Vista 64 bit......
Vista crashed every time I tried installing it....

That was with 4 GB mem......
It turned out, that with 2 GB mem installed there was no problem....
After installing I installed all 4GB of mem....and voila....no problems...

BUT...if it was my hardware (motherboard) or Vista that caused that problem is a bit unclear...

but never-the-less.....Vista 64 runs great....go for it....
 

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thanks ill keep that in mind when installing if i have the same prob
 
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Just a thought... if we are moving away from parallel interfaces to serial interfaces, e.g. Parallel port and PCMCIA to USB, IDE to SATA, AGP to PCIe, then should we expect at some point in the future a radically different CPU architecture operating, not at 64 or 128 bits, but at 1bit with a non-linear address space? Multiple core, 1000s of 1bit cores on a single processor.

It would be TERRIBLE at single threaded applications... but would RIP through serious work.


PS: 64-bit (x86) computing is NOT faster than 32-bit computing. It only allows for larger memory space. But why that? Shouldm't 64-bit design applications be faster than their 32-bit equivalent? Well in theory yes, but in practice, 90% of processing is quite happy with 16-bit registers, and for the other 10% even 64bit isnt optimal, which is why x86 has SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4, SSE4.1 extensions. What are they? They are a set of 128-bit registers and instructions. So, in practice, for number crunching, whether your OS is 32bit or 64bit, the calcs are being accelerated by the SAME 128bit registers.
 
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This is also somthing im unsure about too.I have 4gig installed but i still use xp 32bit because for one it runs faster even though it doesnt use all my ram.

So why would moving to vista which uses more ram be a smart choice? especially as the 64bit versions have lots of driver issues and software issues.

The only thing vista has to offer me is dx10. I dont really care about the rest.
Im really not majorly concerned about making the move yet until all the games i want to play are dx10 and they stop supporting dx9.
 

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Im really not majorly concerned about making the move yet until all the games i want to play are dx10 and they stop supporting dx9.

Or until MS stops supporting Win XP, i hear it's going to happen around 2010, is that true?
 
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I'm VERY happy with 64bit, its perfectly fine as long as you don't have any goofy stuff like some TV cards have driver issues still...

But other than that its great, I see no sense in wasting money on 32bit OS's anymore being they are next to obsolete.
 

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Or until MS stops supporting Win XP, i hear it's going to happen around 2010, is that true?

yes its true but they keep pushing the cutoff date back because to many people are still using xp...go figure, but it is going to happen sooner or later...and i was also wondering the same thing about 128bit proc or os, 64 has been around for a while and there is still not allot of software and hard where designed to work on 64bit but im sure it will happen someday... i often wonder if computing will ever reach a plateau to where it just cant be improved anymore...?
 

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I'm holding onto XP until Windows 7 if it's any good. If Windows 7 is worse than Vista, I may be forced to use another OS.
 

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That's unlikely, there will always be innovations in any tech, including computers.
 
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I'm holding onto XP until Windows 7 if it's any good. If Windows 7 is worse than Vista, I may be forced to use another OS.

Mac OSX :) or OS-XI :)

I am still debating dropping my Vista install and installing OSX
 
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I think people are panicing too much over this ms stopping support stuff i mean theres nothing wrong with xp just save all your service packs for the future.

Even when they stopped support for win 98 / me hardware drivers were still been brought out a good long while after for these operating systems.

Granted this will stop eventually but it will be a few years after ms support stops.

By that time vista will probably be on its way out because alot of people like it and theres equally alot that hates it.

I think the whole directx 10 not backwards compatable for xp things a load of rubbish tbh.
Its just another way to force vista on everyone.
Service packs can change support and how things operate.And its not impossible for microsoft to do. Its just not a good move finacially. Especially as lots of money was lost through xp piracy.
 

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