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Reviews in alphabetical order

Anandtech
EVGA nForce 780i SLI
CAT: 8-451-2-080123a
Vista Ultimate 32-bit

Chile Hardware
Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe AMD 9600 Black Edition
Catalyst 8.451.2.080123a
Vista Ultimate 32-bit

Computer Base
Striker Asus Extreme (Nvidia nForce 680i) main-board test
Cat 8-451-2-080123a
Windows x86 Vista Build 6000

Driver Heaven
Asus P5E3 Deluxe (X38)
Catalyst 8.451 230108
Vista Ultimate

Extreme Tech
Intel D975 XBX (Intel 975X)
Catalyst 8.2
Vista Ultimate

Firing Squad
ASUS P5E3 Deluxe (X38)
Cat 8.451.2_080123a-058649E
Vista 64-bit w/Service Pack 1 RC Refresh

Guru3d
nVIDIA nForce 680i SLI (eVGA)
8-451-2-080108a beta
Vista Business Edition

Hardware Canucks
Asus Blitz Extreme (P35)
Cat 8.451.2-080
Vista Ultimate x64

Hexus
MSI X48 Platinum (X48+ICH9R)
CATALYST 8.2 beta
Vista Business, 64-bit, Windows XP SP2 32-bit (X2 and GTX)

Hot Hardware
EVGA nForce 680i SLI
Cat ATI Catalyst Bets v8.451
Vista Ultimate

Legit Review
Gigabyte X38-DQ6
CATALYST 8.1 driver
Windows Vista Ultimate

MadBox PC
ASUS P5E (Intel X38)
Catalyst 8-451-2-080121a
Windows XP Service Pack 2 32bits

PCPOP
ASUS Maximus Formula (X38)
Cat 8.1 (no indication of updated drivers)
Vista Ultimate 32Bit version 6000

PC Prospective
EVGA nForce 680i Motherboard
AMD Catalyst R680 Beta
Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

TechPowerUp
Gigabyte P35C-DS3R Intel P35
Catalyst 8.12 v8.451.2
Windows XP SP2

Tech Report
Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6
Cat 8.451.2-080116a-057935E
Vista Ultimate x86 Edition

Tom's Hardware
Asus P5E3 Deluxe (X38)
Cat 8-451-2-080108a
XP??





Reviews by chipset

780i
Anandtech
uses a EVGA nForce 780i SLI
CAT: 8-451-2-080123a

680i
Computer Base
using Striker Asus Extreme (Nvidia nForce 680i) main-board test
Cat 8-451-2-080123a

Guru3d
using nVIDIA nForce 680i SLI (eVGA)
CAT: 8-451-2-080108a beta

Hot Hardware
using a EVGA nForce 680i SLI
Catalyst Bets v8.451

PC Prospective
EVGA nForce 680i Motherboard
AMD Catalyst R680 Beta


P35
Hardware Canucks
using Asus Blitz Extreme (P35)
Cat 8.451.2-080

TechPowerUp
using a Gigabyte P35C-DS3R Intel P35
Catalyst 8.12 v8.451.2


X38
Driver Heaven
using Asus P5E3 Deluxe (X38)

Firing Squad
using ASUS P5E3 Deluxe (X38)
Cat 8.451.2_080123a-058649E

Legit Review
Gigabyte X38-DQ6
CATALYST 8.1 driver
Windows Vista Ultimate

MadBox PC
ASUS P5E (Intel X38)
Catalyst 8-451-2-080121a
Windows XP Service Pack 2 32bits

PCPOP
using ASUS Maximus Formula (X38)
Cat 8.1 (no indication of updated drivers)

Tech Report
using Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6
Cat 8.451.2-080116a-057935E

Tom's Hardware
using Asus P5E3 Deluxe (X38)
Cat 8-451-2-080108a


X48
Hexus
MSI X48 Platinum (X48+ICH9R)
CATALYST 8.2 beta


790FX
Chile Hardware
Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe AMD 9600 Black Edition
Catalyst 8.451.2.080123a


Places selling them:
Newegg
Excaliber PC
Mwave
XPC Gear
 
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#2
these cards are awesome, w1z's review shows that enuff. apart from a few benchies, the card stomps on NV's offerings in virtually every game/benchmark.

this looks very promising for upcoming cards.

Im gonna hold out till at least dx11 cards are out, as for now my meager 2900xt will see me well.

but what a price!! price/performance this is better than Nvidia *ATM*
 
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#3
Nice list of benchmarks, EastCoast! :rockout: They're pretty much all the ones that I like to check when new hardware comes out, so I have all of them on my favorites, but it's just easier to click on your links than navigating through the tabs, ;). Is there any other reliable site anyway? :laugh:

About the card. After reading most of the benchmarks I have to say that sadly, it's a big dissapointment for me. Although not as fast as I thought it would be, on performance level it delivers, there isn't any big issues there. But (and a big one for me) 3870 Crossfire is almost as fast, if you OC them to same clocks of course, and 8800GT SLI is a lot faster. So it all comes to how much they cost. Sadly, around here the card costs as much as 2 3870 and searching a bit you can have 2 8800GTs for little more. Anyway that's not an issue, it depends on the country and prices will go down.

What is the biggest dissapointment is that it consumes a lot more than 3870 Crossfire!!:eek::eek::eek: How can this happen?
The noise level is unacceptable for me too and seems that the second chip is a bit hot, it's not cooled as well as the other. And I'm not really sure that you can use any aftermarket cooler for this card. I haven't searched the web about this anyway, since I am not interested. I would never buy this card as it is now. If they fix noise levels, power consumption, and heat on the second chip, I will think of it again. Right now for me this card is as useless as 8800Ultra. In favor of the 3870 X2 I have to say that it's with difference the better dual GPU card ever. Sadly, this is because all the others were a waste IMO.

EDIT: Before replying to this post take into account this is MY opinion. Also that I don't care about 3DMark or QuadCrossfire. I only care about gaming smoothly on acceptable resolutions. Of course right now this card is the fastest one (by a small margin), so I know it's a great value for benhmarking enthusiast, so if you are one of them avoid trying to discuss with me couse we are not looking for the same things.
 
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#4
I've done a lot of reading this morning so forgive me if I forget anything. A few reviews stand out:

-Tech Power Up: noting that techincally this is not a PCIe 2.0 video card as thought
-The Tech Report: discusses X2 vs CF vs GT SLI
-Driver Heaven: Made notes regarding the lower then average min frame rates from 3 games. They believe it's either because:
A. driver issue
B. ATI teams needs to work with developers more often

-Hardware Canucks: Offers both X2 vs CF and shows that aftermarket cooler does not fit

We may see yet another driver update called 1.3v
 
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#5
B. ATI teams needs to work with developers more often
or developers need to stop being paid so much for "how its meant to be played" adverts..

having seen examples of one 3870 card in crossfire mode not even bothering to clock out of 2 d mode and sit there doing absolutely nothings when certain 3d applications are run i now think its the game not the cat drivers..

this is also the reason why one card runs cooler.. its only half working at best..

its just like multiple cpu cores.. if the software aint written to use em they dont get used..

this conclusion is why i aint happy with crossfire.. with one card or with two cards..

trog
 

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They are available at the Egg right now. It will be next week for me I think.
 
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updated OP
 

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Another place selling them (Canada), but they have OC it to 875/960 so you pay a premium of $540 on top of thier (high) priced regular edition.

Hope these prices don't reflect what we can expect to pay in Canada, but it's looking that way:mad:
 

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#9
Another place selling them (Canada), but they have OC it to 875/960 so you pay a premium of $540 on top of thier (high) priced regular edition.

Hope these prices don't reflect what we can expect to pay in Canada, but it's looking that way:mad:
now thats an ultra killer!
 
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#10
I'm really surprised by how well this card is doing in reviews, even without an "official" driver yet.

TBH, though, I'm not surprised by how poorly it runs in Crysis, I still think there's something fishy about that, as the Cysis 1.1 patch offered maybe 0-2 FPS increase for ATI cards, and I swear on mine I saw a reduction in IQ at my settings.



Nice compilation of the reviews ECH! :toast:
 

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I'm really surprised by how well this card is doing in reviews, even without an "official" driver yet.

TBH, though, I'm not surprised by how poorly it runs in Crysis, I still think there's something fishy about that, as the Cysis 1.1 patch offered maybe 0-2 FPS increase for ATI cards, and I swear on mine I saw a reduction in IQ at my settings.

It's called the "The Way It's Meant To Be Played" bug. It affects all ATI cards.:D
 
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It's called the "The Way It's Meant To Be Played" bug. It affects all ATI cards.:D
dammit! I always knew my 1950's weren't TWIMTBP compliant!

It's like the year 1999 all over again! :cry:
 
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It's called the "The Way It's Meant To Be Played" bug. It affects all ATI cards.:D
Yea that bug has really been pissing me off lately:shadedshu

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Yea that bug has really been pissing me off lately:shadedshu

:nutkick:
Your definitely not alone there. Heres to hoping it goes away.:toast:
 
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Driver Heaven
Asus P5E3 Deluxe (X38) Intel QX9770 (3.2Ghz – 1600fsb)
Catalyst 8.451 230108
Vista Ultimate

PCPOP (Chinese)
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OC-Lab2 (Slovenian)
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Catalyst 8.451 230108
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Legit Review
Gigabyte X38-DQ6 Core 2 Quad QX9650
CATALYST 8.1 driver
Windows Vista Ultimate


Anandtech
EVGA nForce 780i SLI QX9650 @ 3.00GHz
CAT: 8-451-2-080123a
Vista Ultimate 32-bit

Hardware Canucks
Asus Blitz Extreme (P35) Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3.5Ghz
Cat 8.451.2-080
Vista Ultimate x64

Hardware.fr (French/français)
nForce 680i SLI EVGA Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850
Catalyst 8.1 beta.
Windows Vista

Hexus
ATI benchmark MSI X48 Platinum (X48+ICH9R), Nvidia benchmarkseVGA NF68 (nForce 680i SLI) Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 LGA775 (3.0GHz)
CATALYST 8.2 beta
Vista Business, 64-bit, Windows XP SP2 32-bit (X2 and GTX)

Hot Hardware
ATI benchmarks Asus P5E3 Deluxe, Nvidia benchmarks EVGA nForce 680i SLI Core 2 Extreme QX6850 (3GHz)
Cat ATI Catalyst Bets v8.451
Vista Ultimate

MadBox PC (Spanish)
ASUS P5E (Intel X38) Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 (3Ghz - 333x9)
Catalyst 8-451-2-080121a
Windows XP Service Pack 2 32bits

Tom's Hardware
Asus P5E3 Deluxe (X38) Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 (Quad-core 3 GHz)
Cat 8-451-2-080108a
XP??

Computer Base (German/Deutsch) Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 (overclocked at 3.46 GHz
Striker Asus Extreme (Nvidia nForce 680i) main-board test
Cat 8-451-2-080123a
Windows x86 Vista Build 6000


Extreme Tech
Intel D975 XBX (Intel 975X) Intel Core 2 Quad QX6800 @ 2.93GHz
Catalyst 8.2
Vista Ultimate

Firing Squad
ASUS P5E3 Deluxe (X38) Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800
Cat 8.451.2_080123a-058649E
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Guru3d
nVIDIA nForce 680i SLI (eVGA) Core 2 Duo X6800 Extreme
8-451-2-080108a beta
Vista Business Edition

PC Prospective
EVGA nForce 680i Motherboard Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800
AMD Catalyst R680 Beta
Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

Tech Report
ATI benchmarked using Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 Nvidia benchmarked using XFX nForce 680i SLI Core 2 Extreme X6800 2.93GHz
Cat 8.451.2-080116a-057935E
Vista Ultimate x86 Edition

Hartware.net (German/Deutsch) Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 (2,93 GHz)
Intel D975XBX (Intel 975X)
Catalyst 8.1
XP Professionell (Service Pack 2)


TechPowerUp
Gigabyte P35C-DS3R Intel P35 Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 2.33 GHz
Catalyst 8.12 v8.451.2
Windows XP SP2




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Chile Hardware (Spanish/español) AMD Phenom 9600 Black Edition
Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe AMD 9600 Black Edition
Catalyst 8.451.2.080123a
Vista Ultimate 32-bit
NOT SURE OF CPU PERFORMANCE


Bit-Tech
ATI Test System Maximus Formula, Nvidia Asus Striker II Formula 780i Q6600 3.0/C2D 6750???
Cat 8-451-2-080121a
Windows Vista Ultimate x86
TESTBED AND POWER CONSUMPTION TEST SHOW DIFFERENT CPU?? :confused:


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Is the X2 CPU limited?
 
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Depends on the game, IQ settings, and resolution. You should know better than to ask that EC. :)
Yeah, I was trying to drum up conversation about the X2. :eek:
 
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EastCoasthandle said:
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TESTBED AND POWER CONSUMPTION TEST SHOW DIFFERENT CPU?? :confused:
It is clearly stated in the bit-tech review why a different setup was chose for the power consumption test:

Bit tech review said:
On top of our graphics performance testing, we have also measured the power consumption of AMD's ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2 graphics card at both idle and load. For this we used a slightly different test system, in order to keep the system the exactly the same across all of our power consumption measurements.
 

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Yeah, I was trying to drum up conversation about the X2. :eek:
oh :toast:


I found this interesting:


cvearl @ rage3d said:

Be confused no more. Here is a summary of all reviews comparing the 8800GTX to the 3870x2. Overall the 3870x2 wins. Almost unanamous. And the scaling is VERY impressive IMO...

These 2 cards are the same price for the most part. As for the GTS (G92), it is NOT as fast as the GTX by most accounts when running 1680x1050 and above with AA and AF just to clear that up.

These 2 behemoths face off at the $450 price point in most all of the recent reviews. Here's a summary....

3870x2 wins in
COD4
DiRT
Quakewars
HL2:EP2
Oblivion
The Witcher
COH
Call of Juarez
STALKER
Quake 4
Splinter Cell:CT
FEAR
Prey
X3 Reunion.

3870x2 and GTX tie in
Crysis is a give or take depending on settings
Lost Planet DX10 with AA (according to 2 sites)
Unreal Tournament 3
Gears of War

3870x2 loses , but still plays well in...
Tiger Woods
Blazing Angels 2
Lost PLanet 1280x1024
WiC DX10 with AA
Quake Wars by a little at 2 sites
Supcom
Bioshock in DX10 mode according to Firing squad but they use 2 different motherboards to test with.

3870x2 is the superior product at the same price.

Clearly BEATS the 8800GTX - Clearly as in picked by multiple reviewers as the victor if not nearly unanamous.

COD4 1680x1050 4xAA 16xAF (Anand) - VISTA
3870x2 - 84fps
8800GTX - 58fps

COD4 1920x1200 4xAA (Legit Reviews) - VISTA
3870x2 - 49fps
8800GTX - 42fps

DiRT 1920x1200 2xAA 16xAF (DH) - VISTA
3870x2 - 39fps
8800GTX - 31fps

Quake Wars 1920x1200 8xAA 16xAF (DH) - VISTA
3870x2 - 51fps
8800GTX - 26fps

Quake Wars 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF (Hothardware) - VISTA
3870x2 - 77fps
8800GTX - 69fps

Quake Wars 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF (Tech Powerup) - XP
3870x2 - 89fps
8800GTX - 75fps

HL2:EP2 1920x1200 2xAA 16xAF (DH) - VISTA
3870x2 - 99fps
8800GTX - 92fps

HL2:EP2 1680x1050 4xAA 16xAF (Anand) - VISTA
3870x2 - 145fps
8800GTX - 114fps

HL2:EP2 1600x1200 8xAA 16xAF (Hardware Canucks) - VISTA
3870x2 - 108fps
8800GTX - 94fps

HL2:EP2 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF (Hothardware) - VISTA
3870x2 - 119fps
8800GTX - 100fps

Oblivion 1920x1200 0xAA 16xAF (DH) - VISTA
3870x2 - 95fps
8800GTX - 65fps

Oblivion 1680x1050 4xAA 16xAF Ultra Quality Mode (Anand) - VISTA
3870x2 - 58fps
8800GTX - 41fps

Bioshock 1680x1050 0xAA 16xAF (Anand) - VISTA
3870x2 - 72fps
8800GTX - 67fps

Unreal Tournament 3 1680x1050 Highest Quality 0xAA (Anand) - VISTA
3870x2 - 141fps
8800GTX - 98fps

The Witcher 1680x1050 Highest Quality 0xAA (Anand) - VISTA
3870x2 - 47fps
8800GTX - 33fps

COH 1600x1200 4xAA (Hardware Canucks) - VISTA
3870x2 - 139fps
8800GTX - 107fps

COH 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF Ultra Quality (Tech Powerup) - XP
3870x2 - 199fps
8800GTX - 179fps

World in Conflict "DX9" 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF (Hardware Canucks) - VISTA
3870x2 - 45fps
8800GTX - 40fps

Call of Juarez 1600x1200 4xMSAA (Hardware Canucks) - VISTA
3870x2 - 40fps
8800GTX - 21fps

Crysis DX10 All HIGH 1600x1200 2xAA (Hardware Canucks) - VISTA
3870x2 - 26fps
8800GTX - 21fps

STALKER 1600x1200 MAXED FDL mode (Legit Reviews) - VISTA
3870x2 - 138fps
8800GTX - 116fps

STALKER 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF (Tech Powerup) - XP
3870x2 - 159fps
8800GTX - 143fps

Quake4 1920x1200 4xAA 16xAF Ultra Quality (Hexus) - VISTA
3870x2 - 167fps
8800GTX - 92fps

Quake 4 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF Ultra Quality (Tech Powerup) - XP
3870x2 - 77fps
8800GTX - 67fps

Splinter Cell:CT 1920x1200 4xAA 8xAF (Hexus) - VISTA
3870x2 - 131fps
8800GTX - 103fps

Splinter Cell:CT 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF (Tech Powerup) - XP
3870x2 - 139fps
8800GTX - 82fps

FEAR 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF Maximum Quality (Tech Powerup) - XP
3870x2 - 117fps
8800GTX - 88fps

FEAR 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF Maximum Quality (Firingsquad) - VISTA
3870x2 - 110fps
8800GTX - 92fps

Prey 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF (Tech Powerup) - XP
3870x2 - 131fps
8800GTX - 100fps

X3 Reunion 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF (Tech Powerup) - XP
3870x2 - 89fps
8800GTX - 73fps



Ties with the 8800GTX

Crysis 1680x1050 High Quality mode 0xAA 16xAF (Anand) - VISTA
3870x2 - 31fps
8800GTX - 28fps

Crysis 1600x1200 DX10 HIGH QUALITY 0xAA (Hothardware) - VISTA
3870x2 - 31fps
8800GTX - 30fps

Gears of War 1680x1050 DX10AA 16xAF (DH) - VISTA
3870x2 - 51fps
8800GTX - 53fps

Prey 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF (Hardware Canucks) - VISTA
3870x2 - 106fps
8800GTX - 105fps

Lost Planet "DX10" 1600x1200 16xAF (Hardware Canucks) - VISTA
3870x2 - 28fps
8800GTX - 30fps

Lost Planet 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF DX10 (Firingsquad) - VISTA
3870x2 - 26fps
8800GTX - 27fps

Farcry 1920x1200 4xAA 8xAF Highest Quality (Hexus) - VISTA
3870x2 - 110fps
8800GTX - 111fps

Unreal Tournament 3 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF (Tech Powerup) - XP
3870x2 - 118fps
8800GTX - 118fps


3870x2 Loses by a bit to 8800GTX

Tiger Woods 1680x1050 0xAA 16xAF (DH) - VISTA
3870x2 - 75fps
8800GTX - 86fps

Lost Planet 1280x960 2xAA 16xAF (DH) - VISTA
3870x2 - 42fps
8800GTX - 52fps

Lost Planet 1280x1024 8xAA 16xAF (Hardware Canucks) - VISTA
3870x2 - 34fps
8800GTX - 42fps

World in Conflict "DX10" 1280x768 2xAA 16xAF (DH) - VISTA
3870x2 - 40fps
8800GTX - 48fps

World in Conflict "DX10" 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF (Hardware Canucks) - VISTA
3870x2 - 24fps
8800GTX - 31fps

Blazing Angels 2 1920x1200 4xAA 16xAF (DH) - VISTA
3870x2 - 35fps
8800GTX - 45fps

Quake Wars 1680x1050 0xAA 16xAF Highest Qaulity Mode (Anand) - VISTA
3870x2 - 95fps
8800GTX - 103fps

Quake Wars 1920x1200 4xAA 16xAF Ultra Quality (Hexus) - VISTA
3870x2 - 48fps
8800GTX - 54fps

Crysis 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF ALL HIGH (Tech Powerup) - XP Likely not using hotfix patch?
3870x2 - 25fps
8800GTX - 35fps

Crysis 1600x1200 2xAA 0xAF High (Firingsquad) - VISTA
3870x2 - 19fps
8800GTX - 24fps

Farcry 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF Ultra Quality (Tech Powerup) - XP
3870x2 - 152fps
8800GTX - 190fps

SupCom 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF (Tech Powerup) - XP
3870x2 - 17fps BROKEN! - 3870 gets 35fps
8800GTX - 45fps

BIOSHOCK 1600x1200 0xAA 0xAF DX10 (Firingsquad) - VISTA
3870x2 - 85fps
8800GTX - 79fps