3930k to 3770k ?

[EarthDog]

AGree!

Now seriously... Gnight for now!

3DMark 2011 is another where SB-E does fairly well.

Riiiight. Its core dependent. Look at the Physics score... so is vantage, and 06.

The 3820 also has 2Mb more L3 cache, so it does better than the 2600k despite running 100mhz slower.

Oof not really...http://www.anandtech.com/show/5276/intel-core-i7-3820-review-285-quadcore-sandy-bridge-e 3820 also has a 200 mhz clockspeed ADVANTAGE, NO?

Yeah, the 3820 isn't as fast as the 3770k (it gets very close,) but I'm willing to bet you that IVB-E will spank it.

Perhaps, or it could be ~5% faster than Sbe clock for clock like IB was to SB... though with how long its taking to release, it damn well better be a lot faster than that!

The 3820 is a quad-core and it still does better but on on 3DMark 11

50 points is negligible at best.. margin of error easily there.. same shhhhhhhhhhhhhh different piles with slight more cache




ok for reals.. night!

 

[Aquinus]

Riiiight. Its core dependent. Look at the Physics score... so is vantage, and 06.

The 3820 is a quad-core and it still does better but on on 3DMark 11, not vantage. I suspect it has to do with multi-core optimization (less waiting and locking on other cores.)

AGree!

Now seriously... Gnight for now!

I know, I know, I have to stop as well.

 

[PatoRodrigues]

I'll take the oportunity and ask:

For a guy that wants heavy editing AND gaming, what you would recommend today: X79 (3820) or Z77 (3770K)?

Worth getting what gives you the upgrade path?

 

[Aquinus]

I'll take the oportunity and ask:

For a guy that wants heavy editing AND gaming, what you would recommend today: X79 (3820) or Z77 (3770K)?

Worth getting what gives you the upgrade path?

Describe heavy editing? Are we talking about professional editing of video over a couple hours in length in HD, or are we talking hobbyist video editing?

Intel is in the strange place where everything is kind of in limbo. You can buy an IVB i7 3770k but that setup will never see a faster processor.

SB-E is good, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you:
A: have the money to waste to get something completely extra and unnecessary.
B: Want to have a little more fun overclocking.
C: Don't care how much power it eats.
D: Enables you to run 64Gb up from 32Gb.

The question is, how much does X79 matter to you. I had my mind set on SB-E before IVB even came out and I got the 3820 cheaper than every other skt1155 and 2011 i7 CPU which still managing to deliver some pretty impressive numbers.

All in all, if you game more than you use your machine for anything else and you're not planning on running more than 2 GPUs, get an IVB or wait for Haswell and skt1150. I recommend waiting for Haswell to see what Intel ends up doing and from there you can determine if it is worth waiting for IVB-E or investing in Haswell.

 

[radrok]

I'll take the oportunity and ask:

For a guy that wants heavy editing AND gaming, what you would recommend today: X79 (3820) or Z77 (3770K)?

Worth getting what gives you the upgrade path?

If you don't know if you need a 6 core CPU then you don't need it, no offense.

 

[Aquinus]

If you don't know if you need a 6 core CPU then you don't need it, no offense.

+1: Good advice. If you have to ask, you don't need it. That really does make it easy and simple.

 

[drdeathx]

I'll take the oportunity and ask:

For a guy that wants heavy editing AND gaming, what you would recommend today: X79 (3820) or Z77 (3770K)?

Worth getting what gives you the upgrade path?

It is a crapshoot. The 3820 has more L3 cache which would be better for rendering and CPU intensive stuff. There really is no upgrade path on LGA 1155 or 2011.

 

[n-ster]

It is a crapshoot. The 3820 has more L3 cache which would be better for rendering and CPU intensive stuff. There really is no upgrade path on LGA 1155 or 2011.

ivb-e is for 2011

 

[drdeathx]

ivb-e is for 2011

Doubtful he will go Ivy-e after making his choice but maybe he will

 

[radrok]

The only reason I'd upgrade my 3930K to an Ivy-E is if Intel releases an X edition 8c/16t CPU.

No way I'm going to upgrade 6 core to 6 core another time.

 

[LiveOrDie]

Well im going to wait for Haswell, Also i do use 3Ds max now and then so i built my system around what i use it for but it sucks that they still haven't got RAID TRIM working on the c600 chipset, I have to use a hacked bios just to use it on my RAID.

 

[PatoRodrigues]

Well, i thought later that saying the GPU would be important. 2x GTX670.

Yes, IT IS professional editing in HD for some serious length of time (even some long school projects that require tons of dedication and good rendering after.) Yes, i have the budget for it and certainly want to have some fun with overclocking (but not messing too much with BCLK, because that could damage my system).

Really, i don't think i'll ever use 64GB's of memory (only 16GB).

 

[PatoRodrigues]

If you don't know if you need a 6 core CPU then you don't need it, no offense.

I'm here to read and learn man, no problem at all

 

[HammerON]

PatoRodrigues -
Please do not double post Use the Edit, Multi-Quote and Quote tools please.

 

[drdeathx]

Well im going to wait for Haswell, Also i do use 3Ds max now and then so i built my system around what i use it for but it sucks that they still haven't got RAID TRIM working on the c600 chipset, I have to use a hacked bios just to use it on my RAID.

You will be lucky to see Haswell by May 2013. This pretty much was a worthless thread.

 

[Aquinus]

but it sucks that they still haven't got RAID TRIM working on the c600 chipset, I have to use a hacked bios just to use it on my RAID.

Really? Mine detects that they're SSDs and everything out of the box. I was under the impression (at least for me,) that TRIM pass-through was enabled with the latest drivers. I've never had issues with my SSD RAID-0.

You will be lucky to see Haswell by May 2013. This pretty much was a worthless thread.

+1: More or less. I mean, we did convince him out of "upgrading" to IVB which would have been a damn shame for his poor 3930k. Waiting for something newer is usually the best plan if you can wait.

 

[LiveOrDie]

Really? Mine detects that they're SSDs and everything out of the box. I was under the impression (at least for me,) that TRIM pass-through was enabled with the latest drivers. I've never had issues with my SSD RAID-0.

+1: More or less. I mean, we did convince him out of "upgrading" to IVB which would have been a damn shame for his poor 3930k. Waiting for something newer is usually the best plan if you can wait.

No TRIM still hasn't been enabled in RTSe drivers, The modded bios i use uses a different OROM that works with RTS drivers which enables TRIM but you have to force install the drivers.

Heres the link have a read though it.
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?26501-RIVE-3301-Patched-for-TRIM-in-RAID!&country=&status=

 

[Aquinus]

No TRIM still hasn't been enabled in RTSe drivers, The modded bios i use uses a different OROM that works with RTS drivers which enables TRIM but you have to force install the drivers.

Heres the link have a read though it.
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?26501-RIVE-3301-Patched-for-TRIM-in-RAID!&country=&status=

http://s9.postimage.org/hxe0tvfn3/Untitled.jpg

Huh? You're confusing me. I thought CrystalDiskInfo only says what the drive can do, not what the RAID is doing.

I've had these two drives in RAID-0 since I got them, you almost can't tell them apart without the serial except the read/write totals and temperature.

Edit: You might want to remove the serial number.

 

[EarthDog]

TRIM has been released for RAID SSDs...FINALLY!

Another link.. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6477/trim-raid0-ssd-arrays-work-with-intel-6series-motherboards-too

 

[Aquinus]

TRIM has been released for RAID SSDs...FINALLY!

Another link.. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6477/trim-raid0-ssd-arrays-work-with-intel-6series-motherboards-too

He's talking about X79 with the C600 controller using RSTe not Z77 and the 6-series mobos with RST.

 

[cadaveca]

TRIM has been released for RAID SSDs...FINALLY!

Another link.. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6477/trim-raid0-ssd-arrays-work-with-intel-6series-motherboards-too

From your link:

It's a bit disappointing to see Intel limiting such a useful feature to only specific motherboards, especially since many users are running pre-7-series motherboards.

ie, Intel-branded boards only.

Then:

The following steps include unsupported BIOS modifications which can brick your motherboard. We take no responsibility for failures and the instructions provided below are only for informational purposes. If you still want to try the modification, you are doing it at your own risk and we strongly recommend that you backup all your data before trying any of the steps.

Your links prove that in concept, it works, for sure, but this isn't new news or anything, as the mod for BIOS has been around for quite some time now.

 

[EarthDog]

Yes, well aware of how it works. My apologies for not being more specific and post HOW in the thread.

 

[LiveOrDie]

Yer seems CrystalDiskInfo only does post info on what your drive does sorry, Brands like Asrock/Gigabyte have added support for TRIM with a bios update for there X79 broads how it works is they add a option to change the OROM so you have a choice to load just the RTS OROM which works with TRIM IN RAID, Heres some more info from the bios mod thread i posted, Also this cant brick your board you have 2 bios's also bios flash back which you need to use the bios.

This should be identical to what Asrock and Gigabyte are offering (although my method of implementation is quite different). It still has the issues that ASUS' QA found though (but the Asrock/Gigabyte boards should have the same issues since the OROM loaded is identical when it comes to controller related code). I made it available for whoever wants it and doesn't care for what ASUS found in their testing..hence the big fat disclaimer on the initial post. You want it like the Asrock/Gigabyte boards have it? Here it is. You want to wait till Intel patches what ASUS thought to be a show stopper? Don't flash this and wait

 

[drdeathx]

Yer seems CrystalDiskInfo only does post info on what your drive does sorry, Brands like Asrock/Gigabyte have added support for TRIM with a bios update for there X79 broads how it works is they add a option to change the OROM so you have a choice to load just the RTS OROM which works with TRIM IN RAID, Heres some more info from the bios mod thread i posted, Also this cant brick your board you have 2 bios's also bios flash back which you need to use the bios.

Gigabyte X79 boards have problems and were recalled. Stay away from them.

 

[WillRock]

Gigabyte X79 boards have problems and were recalled. Stay away from them.

That was... a YEAR ago. They had faulty VRM which was fixed in like a week after their launch.

But, Giga s UEFI is shit compared to Asus or ASRocks, making their boards poor in competition.