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4K gaming benchmarks: RX Vega 56 OC vs. GTX980 Ti Strix OC vs. GTX1070 Strix OC vs. GTX1080 SC

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For the first time ever from me - 4K benchmarks. This year purchasing a Sony X800D TV (mostly for movies) and having used all the above mentioned video cards i have decided to showcase a scenario if any of these cards is actually worthy of being called "4K capable" or are they just pretenders and wanabes...

The contenders

Powercolor Radeon RX Vega 56 OC

Asus GeForce GTX980 Ti Strix OC

Asus GeForce GTX1070 Strix OC

Evga GeForce GTX1080 SC

For a detailed info how RX Vega 56 works in my computer click THIS thread. I called RX Vega OC, because the boost clock is 119 MHz higher than what is supposed to be according to the vendor info, even though the design is reference.

There are two objectives in this test:

1. GTX980 Ti vs. GTX1070 - which card is faster at 4K?

In my PREVIOUS BENCHMARK i showed to the world that the same brand Asus Strix GTX980 Ti is 4 % faster than Asus Strix GTX1070. While this difference was not big, GTX980 Ti was faster in every game constantly. Having that knowledge in mind i dared to ask myself if 6 GB VRAM buffer would somehow cripple GTX980 Ti compared against 8 GB VRAM buffer on GTX1070 when testing at 4K - if there is any resolution in which GTX1070 might prove itself, it has to be 4K.

2. GTX1080 vs. RX Vega 56 - which card is faster at 4K at the same price point?

Exactly! Cheapest RX Vega 56 costs the same as cheapest GTX1080 in my country, never mind the very different US prices, those in Europe are at approx 530 EU. Also this RX Vega 56 card that i obtained, as mentioned, comes with higher (1590 MHz) than usual (1471 MHz) core boost clock speed.

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Intel Core i7 5775C 4.3 GHz OC {all cores}
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NVIDIA Forceware 384.94 & AMD Crimson 17.9.3


For this test i will be using 3840x2160 resolution provided by Sony TV, all settings set max, no anti-aliasing. I did not update NVIDIA driver to the latest, since i obtained GTX1080 way later than GTX980 Ti and GTX1070, so i wanted to make sure all NVIDIA cards were tested using the same software.

Let's begin!


ALIEN ISOLATION




Not a demanding game by all means, a GTX1060 6 GB would be fine here.

ASSASSIN'S CREED SYNDICATE



What a slag! However, since this is third person perspective game, you can enjoy it even at 40 FPS, unlike first person shooters, who really need that constant 60 FPS, so GTX1080 is the only suitable card to play Assassin's Creed.

BATTLEFIELD 1




Seems GTX 1080 and RX Vega 56 are truly 4K capable in Battlefield 1 delivering smooth gameplay. GTX980 Ti and GTX1070, though 4K capable, do not deliver smooth gameplay.

CALL OF DUTY BLACK OPS 3




This is the only victory for RX Vega 56 and with GTX1080 being close behind you can somehow play this game with these cards at 4K resolution decently enjoying it. GTX980 Ti and GTX1070 are not 4K worthy.

CRYSIS 3



Did you really expect something else? HD7970 GHz Edition was the first ever GPU to break 60 FPS barrier in Crysis Warhead frost bench at 1920X1080 with 4X MSAA. When will be a card that can break Crysis 3 60 FPS barrier at 3820X2160 with 4X MSAA? Not soon that's for sure...

DEUS EX MANKIND DIVIDED



It's sad to see that non of the cards can break 50 FPS, so i really would not recommend any of these cards for smooth 4K gameplay, also having in mind this scene is not really all that demanding compared to what may come.

DOOM



I would only recommend GTX1080 for smooth 4K gameplay in Doom. RX Vega 56 also only works with OpenGL API, as selecting Vulkan just crashes the game. The same can not be said about any NVIDIA card... With that in mind, RX Vega 56 delivers very poor performance here.

DRAGON AGE INQUISITION



WTF? This puts RX Vega 56 in a dire situation when the final performance summary will be drawn, but i can not discount this test, it's not a fluke, the same low ass result was noted with newer AMD 17.10.2 beta drivers. Also testing at 2560X1440 the RX Vega 56 was also significantly slower than anything else, so...

FAR CRY 4



A precision shooter needs as much FPS as possible in order to never fall below 60. That said, nothing but GTX1080 can be recommended for at least a decent 4K gameplay in Far Cry 4.

MAD MAX FURY ROAD



All cards are 4K certified for this game.

MASS EFFECT ANDROMEDA



The game can lag much more than this. I am not sure if even GTX1080 Ti can handle this game at 4K.

METRO LAST LIGHT REDUX



For a shooter with lots of aiming you want your FPS to be a constant 60, and there are certainly more laggy places than this one, so GTX1080 is the only logical choice for smooth 4K gameplay, though other cards are 4K worthy too at least decently as all break 50 FPS...

MIDDLE EARTH SHADOW OF MORDOR




High minimal frame rates of RX Vega 56 and GTX1080 would definitely target these cards for 4K gaming in Shadow of Mordor, even though GTX1070 and GTX980 Ti are perfectly fine too.

PREY



All cards can handle 4K in Prey, but GTX1080 seems like the only logical choice for a smooth 4K gameplay.

PROJECT CARS



The game is perfectly fine to play at 4K even at 30 FPS, since this is a car simulator.

RISE OF TOMB RAIDER



There will be more laggy places than this intro, so non of the cards is recommended for 4K, especially given the fact that GTX980 Ti is not far from GTX1080.

SNIPER ELITE 4




This game needs constant 60 FPS more than any other game due to it's super precise aiming nature. I could not think of any other shooter in history that would need more constant FPS flow than this one. Sudden 10 FPS drop from 60 to 50 FPS can result in missed shot from 300 meter distance where every centimeter counts. GTX1080 does not guarantee 60 FPS throughout the whole game either. Forget smooth 4K with the cards below GTX1080 or suffer the horrible consequences of missing yours shots when there are explosions and dozens of enemies at the same time/place.

WATCH DOGS 2



Abysmal performance was expected anyway... If you want to play at 4K with at least GTX1080, use temporal filtering AA method, which actually improves performance.

WITCHER 3 WILD HUNT



Non of these are 4K cards, but GTX1080 at least makes Witcher 3 comfortable at 4K as the game does not need the precision of a gun based shooter like Crysis 3.
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AVERAGE FPS PERFORMANCE SUMMARY



As far as things go between GTX980 Ti and GTX1070, nothing really changes at 3840X2160 compared from 2560X1440. 6 GB VRAM is enough for 4K gaming without AA and biger memory bandwidth of GTX980 Ti is what really maters here.

As far things go between RX Vega 56 OC and GTX1080 SC... Wait.. What? Ok, the reality is that RX Vega 56 OC is only GTX1070 Strix OC equal. It's fair to say it is inferior to GTX980 Ti Strix OC and it has got nothing on GTX1080 SC. Sure, had not RX Vega 56 scored so low in Dragon Age Inquisition game, it would have been between GTX1070 and GTX980 Ti. Even more bitter the feeling get's imagining what if RX Vega 56 had used it's full 1590 MHz core boost clock at all times without bullshit throttling? That would probably lead it ahead of GTX980 Ti, but it is only speculation.

AMD has ALOT of work to do.
 
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Good to see my apparently not future proof 980 Ti holding it's own, even at 4k and despite it's age.

As always, good job!
 
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Thanks for the testing.

It would be good to know how much vram was used in each game on each card too. Id imagine only the 4gb card may be close in some titles.
 
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PERFORMANCE SUMMARY COMPLETED!

Thanks for the testing.

It would be good to know how much vram was used in each game on each card too. Id imagine only the 4gb card may be close in some titles.
I can only do this with RX Vega 56. The NVIDIA cards were sold quite some time ago. Anyway what do you mean "Id imagine only the 4gb card may be close in some titles"?

Anyway earthdog, looks like you now have a broad smile on your face looking down at your Evga GTX1080 WTF3 after reading this. I imagine Fluffmeister is happy too, as all who own custom overclocked GTX980 Ti should be.
 
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Oh..ok. Seemed like vram was a notable mention for testing. Just would be good to have that data as well.

Smiling now? Naa... just more data to already existing datasets. ;)
 
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Not bad
 
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What would the perf summary be without Dragon Age, can you maybe post that picture as well.
 
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While I admire your work, I can say that Doom's Vega56 on OpenGL and the DA:Inquisition on the same GPU alongside the way you extracted the medium in the final results make those very vaque. In order to make every game same in weight for the results, you need to put a card as the base and converse the FPS number to a percentage analog to the base GPU's one for every game. As the @W1zzard always does. And I am sure that there was something to be done to allow Vega to run in Vullcan in Doom also. Some search in forums should help imho. And as other Vega users have said, undervolting helps in maintaining higher clocks for longer as power and thermals affects them muchly. Since you already have the results in hand you could make this review of yours much better. Thanks anyway for publishing your findings. :toast:
 
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Now you see - these benchmarks underline why I feel the GTX 1070ti is a completely pointless and shit product.

4K wants all those shaders and needs all the VRAM bandwidth to translate that into a smooth performance. The slower GDDR5 siblings fall apart here. Where the 1080 is positioned on top across all the benches, the other cards are inconsistent and swap places all the time. Note: mostly looking at 1070/980ti, Vega isn't really comparable here - that card is also a bit inconsistent, but unlikely due to VRAM bandwidth, and more likely due to optimization.

Thanks for this, again sir.

Would be awesome if you can revisit this with a 1070ti at some point :) My expectations are that it will be extremely inconsistent: close to a 1080 best case on lighter engines/games, and close to the 1070 in the heavier titles.
 
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if its priced right the 1070 TI could be the one card to rule them all.. apart from the 1080 TI..

budget 1060.. mid range the 1070 TI and high end 1080 TI.. the original 1070 and 1080 now being effectively redundant.. :)

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In order to make every game same in weight for the results, you need to put a card as the base and converse the FPS number to a percentage analog to the base GPU's one for every game. As the @W1zzard always does.

I always converse FPS number to percentages, but i am not going to do the opposite methodology as wizzard and it's only fair - in his testing he uses the fastest card as 100 % base, and all weaker cards then amass some amount of that 100 % base. According to his testing, GTX1080 would score 100 % and RX Vega 56 would score 80 %. That means that RX Vega 56 has 80 % of GTX1080 performance, but it does not mean that GTX1080 is 20 % faster, because it is 25 % faster! Get the point here? In order to see how much one card is faster over the other - you have do the methodology my way by setting the weakest card as base 100 %. Actually this should not concern anybody, both methods are fine as long as they are calculated correctly. There is nothing wrong with my method of calculation.

And I am sure that there was something to be done to allow Vega to run in Vullcan in Doom also. Some search in forums should help imho.
And exactly what could be done? It's drivers fault, nothing else can be done here at this moment of time. I bet using RX480 with older stable drivers would not cause crashing, but since Vega is a new card and drivers are being matured on the way, such cases are expected. Don't you agree?

And as other Vega users have said, undervolting helps in maintaining higher clocks for longer as power and thermals affects them muchly. Since you already have the results in hand you could make this review of yours much better. Thanks anyway for publishing your findings
I can agree with that, but take note that temperature had nothing to do with core clocks throttling, because i never allowed the temperature to reach over 85 C. I will, however, tamper with undervoltages a bit and see if there is any improvement..

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Radeon_RX_Vega_56/31.html

This is for everyone.

In wizzard's review, at 4K RX Vega 56 outperformed GTX1070 by 9 %, and GTX980 Ti by 19 %, because GTX1070 and GTX980 Ti were stock. Stock GTX1070 and especially stock GTX980 Ti are nothing compered to Strix OC Gaming versions of those cards. Also wizzard used so many different games and a different OS.
 
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Enough bickering, it ends here. The next person to call a name or insult someone is earning points, you can disagree with each other all you want, but keep it civil and constructive.

Artas - I'd suggest you keep a calm head when replying, you're putting your own thread at risk of closure with the way you've been responding to people. I know you've put a lot of time into getting these benchmark results, so just keep that in mind. If you can't think up a decent reply to someone you perceive as trolling, just ignore it, you don't have to reply.
 
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https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Radeon_RX_Vega_56/31.html

This is for everyone.

In wizzard's review, at 4K RX Vega 56 outperformed GTX1070 by 9 %, and GTX980 Ti by 19 %, because GTX1070 and GTX980 Ti were stock. Stock GTX1070 and especially stock GTX980 Ti are nothing compered to Strix OC Gaming versions of those cards. Also wizzard used so many different games and a different OS.
First of all, 1070 OC goes up by 7-8% as the reviews of factory oced models @W1zzard have already tested show. And as I suggested previously, undervolting Vega (close to 1V for the core) along with increasing power limit (+30-50%) helps much in performance. Even 75C temps keep Vega down in performance usually.

As for Doom not working on Vulkan, try to download and install the latest SDK from here: https://vulkan.lunarg.com/sdk/home#...49.0/windows/VulkanSDK-1.0.49.0-Installer.exe and test it again when you have the time to do so.
 

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so that's basically proves that anything less than a 1080 or a Vega 64 is subpar for 4K whereas the rest of the bunch are okay for 1080
 
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by my reckoning they are all subpar for 4K.. the fact that some them might just manage 60 fps with the wind behind them dosnt change much..

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+1

a curious round up for 4k...


Any chane to see a 1050, 1050ti, rx 470, and a 1060 at 2560x1440? :p
 
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Well he did say he was testing if the cards were actually worthy, I don't see a problem with that. Plenty of lesser (and frankly far better) games would be just fine at 4K.

Good to see the thread has been cleaned up either way.
 
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I beg to differ on what GPU can play on 4K good enough. If looking for shooters, fast action based games and sims, 60FPS is crucial to have. For most of the other game genres though 35-40 FPS is more than enough imho. And even for shooters or sims, when you lower the settings a bit you can easily gain 10 FPS or more, so Vega 56 tuned a bit (undervolted and oced) is 4K capable GPU for most games. Vega 64 and 1080 are even more capable also. And with more DX12 and Vulkan games coming, they will be capable of 4K for long.
 
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#19
What would the perf summary be without Dragon Age, can you maybe post that picture as well.
GTX1070 - 100 %
Vega RX 56 - 105 %
GTX980 Ti - 105 %

And when it comes to calculating the average FPS of all the minimum frame rates, all games included, then GTX1070 = RX Vega 56, which means that Vega RX 56 minimum FPS performance is 1 % better than average FPS performance.
 
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#20
Some more lesser known 4K RX Vega 56 oriented benchmarks i found in youtube. Have checked them to see if this stuff is valid.





 
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Yay! More 4k testing on cards that have little business running it.. w00t! (I know there is other testing)
 
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SLI 980TI still running strong for next year.