5400 RPM HDDs in Raid 0

camoxiong · Jan 25, 2012

I have a question about 5400 RPM HDDs in Raid 0, can it do?

Radical_Edward · Jan 25, 2012

I wouldn't be in a hurry to do RAID with Green drives(I assume that's what they are if they are 5400 RPM.)

We've had a bunch of issues with those kinds of HDDS dropping out of RAID arrays, etc.

francis511 · Jan 25, 2012

Is it just me ? Why put slow drives in an array ?

camoxiong · Jan 25, 2012

Radical_Edward said:
I wouldn't be in a hurry to do RAID with Green drives(I assume that's what they are if they are 5400 RPM.)

We've had a bunch of issues with those kinds of HDDS dropping out of RAID arrays, etc.

It's not WD Green Drives, it's 2 Maxtor 80gb drives. IDK if these 2 are 5400 or 7200 rpm.

camoxiong · Jan 25, 2012

francis511 said:
Is it just me ? Why put slow drives in an array ?

it's for my friend's build

kenkickr · Jan 25, 2012

You can raid 0 5400 rpm drives no problem. Just DONT do it with Green or LP drives, they park their heads to much.

camoxiong · Jan 25, 2012

kenkickr said:
You can raid 0 5400 rpm drives no problem. Just DONT do it with Green or LP drives, they park their heads to much.

Ok, thanks. It's 2 Maxtor 80gb drives.

Goodman · Jan 26, 2012

camoxiong said:
Ok, thanks. It's 2 Maxtor 80gb drives.

1- IDE or Sata?
Either way they should be 7200 rpm , i never seen Maxtor 80GB that were 5400 rpm unless it's laptop HDD?

2- which board are you using?

3- Which OS?

Tell you from experience Raid0 is not really worth it (IDE/Sata 1 & 2) the only difference you'll notice is in big files transfer (1GB+) or benchmarks anything else you wont feel a thing.... better go SSD

BlackOmega · Jan 26, 2012

francis511 said:
Is it just me ? Why put slow drives in an array ?

Because you could take one slow ass drive and pair it with another slow ass drive and make one semi-quick drive. I'd be willing to bet in a RAID 0 array it would almost double the throughput.

Completely Bonkers · Jan 26, 2012

You "slowness" is not from throughput but from latency and seek times. This will not improve with those drives under RAID 0. I personally would not recommend it. A modern cheap 2.5" drive will be faster, quieter, and more reliable than those old dinosaurs, even under RAID 0.

In fact things might get worse. What is your RAID system? Hardware (true) or software (driver)? And what CPU/chipset are you running. If you are interested in old 80GB drives, I might be tempted to think the PC itself isnt going to be the best either... And running driver based RAID could give you all kinds of headaches you haven't anticipated yet.

Goodman · Jan 26, 2012

Completely Bonkers said:
You "slowness" is not from throughput but from latency and seek times. This will not improve with those drives under RAID 0. I personally would not recommend it. A modern cheap 2.5" drive will be faster, quieter, and more reliable than those old dinosaurs, even under RAID 0.

In fact things might get worse. What is your RAID system? Hardware (true) or software (driver)? And what CPU/chipset are you running. If you are interested in old 80GB drives, I might be tempted to think the PC itself isnt going to be the best either... And running driver based RAID could give you all kinds of headaches you haven't anticipated yet.

About that old 80GB dinosaur...

Here some of my old benchmarks with my 4x80GB (WD) HDD's Sata in raid0... on my old AM2 board

Single

x2

x3

x4

So yeah! even those old dinosaur 80Gb can still be fast but as in every day use like surfing the net , gaming & playing music/video it makes no differences that you can notice not even loading windows which may save you about 10 sec. which is nothing really

It makes a good difference only if you deal with big, big files/data or in Benchmarks

Was it worth the price of 4x80GB in those days? , simple answer is No! unless you were/are doing some heavy video editing or going after benchmarks record...

Completely Bonkers · Jan 26, 2012

Nice. I do love objective data. What RAID subsystem was that?

But we should not give camoxiong false hopes. You had Caviar drives. He has regular Maxtor 80GBs.

Just to throw some data back... here is my system:
WD10EADS-00L5B1

RAMdisk gigabyte iRAM

RAMdrive

brandonwh64 · Jan 26, 2012

You can pickup cheap 32GB SSD Drives over at Directron right now for like 29.99$

Pickup like 3 of these and do raid 0 (one alone does over 150MB read/write)

http://www.directron.com/rf32gs25ssdr.html

Disparia · Jan 26, 2012

The Patriot 32GB 2.5in SATA II MLC SSD (Solid State Drive), Refurbished. Model: RF32GS25SSDR is not currently available. Please contact us for availability of this item.

Was going to get six :/

brandonwh64 · Jan 26, 2012

Jizzler said:
Was going to get six :/

DAMN! These were posted yesterday but seems to be hoarded up!

Disparia · Jan 26, 2012

Oh well... I'll just need to pay better attention to the deals section in the future

brandonwh64 · Jan 26, 2012

Jizzler said:
Oh well... I'll just need to pay better attention to the deals section in the future

it was in the WCG threads not the hot deal threads.

camoxiong · Jan 27, 2012

Goodman said:
1- IDE or Sata?
Either way they should be 7200 rpm , i never seen Maxtor 80GB that were 5400 rpm unless it's laptop HDD?

2- which board are you using?

3- Which OS?

Tell you from experience Raid0 is not really worth it (IDE/Sata 1 & 2) the only difference you'll notice is in big files transfer (1GB+) or benchmarks anything else you wont feel a thing.... better go SSD

It's a 3.5 HDD, going to use it on a FM1 Motherboard. Windows 7

camoxiong · Jan 27, 2012

brandonwh64 said:
You can pickup cheap 32GB SSD Drives over at Directron right now for like 29.99$

Pickup like 3 of these and do raid 0 (one alone does over 150MB read/write)

http://www.directron.com/rf32gs25ssdr.html

hey, thanks. im going to buy 4 of these and put it on raid instead of my HDD's

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