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5800x (and other Zen 3 chips) PBO settings/Temperature fix

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The best settings so far that are lower than the defaults in Cinebench multi-core for me:

PPT: 125W
TDC: 80A
EDC: 115A
 
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Your ampere and watt settings made Cinebench R23 multicore score drop!
I would call a 16.3 - 15.5k drop insignificant, as it's 5% and I'll never notice it anywhere.

After further optimizations (ram overclocked to 3.8GHz, undervolt tuned down to 62.5mV) I've managed to hit about 15500 at 110W. That's a whopping 140 points per watt, way higher than the "fully overclocked" 110-ish p/w at 150W. I would say I get almost the same performance for 25% less power.

Another thing to keep in mind, while this system is rather efficient overall compared to my old lga2011 xeon, electricity is still expensive in Europe. Prices are going back down a bit, but most contracts signed during the past six months are still in the ~0,4€/kw or higher price range. I'd rather have an optimized system than a power hungry one.
 
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Mine plunged down to the 15,200s, IIRC.
 

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I would call a 16.3 - 15.5k drop insignificant, as it's 5% and I'll never notice it anywhere.

After further optimizations (ram overclocked to 3.8GHz, undervolt tuned down to 62.5mV) I've managed to hit about 15500 at 110W. That's a whopping 140 points per watt, way higher than the "fully overclocked" 110-ish p/w at 150W. I would say I get almost the same performance for 25% less power.

Another thing to keep in mind, while this system is rather efficient overall compared to my old lga2011 xeon, electricity is still expensive in Europe. Prices are going back down a bit, but most contracts signed during the past six months are still in the ~0,4€/kw or higher price range. I'd rather have an optimized system than a power hungry one.
5% in AVX all core sustained load, which will end up being 0-1% in anything else - only AVX uses that much power, and gaming doesnt use that much threads
Electricity here is ~25c per kwh

I kinda get why people in colder climates with cheap power don't care, but those of us paying a fortune to cool our house really do want that efficiency
 
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I have cheap power and I run a maximum overclock in the winter. In the summer I can't handle the heat so I tune it back down to more efficient levels.
 
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I have cheap power and I run a maximum overclock in the winter. In the summer I can't handle the heat so I tune it back down to more efficient levels.
Our winters can be super-cold, especially at night! This was to my advantage with major OC'ing.
 

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Nothing like cracking the window when it is -30 or 40c outside :toast:
Next month will get cold here as well.
Good time for some HWBOT record chasing benching sessions.
 

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Got a 5600(non X) a few weeks ago and am just wondering what settings to use in Ryzen Master if I want a balance between good performance and temps? Running my CPU on a B550 PG Velocita with a 360mm be quiet! Pure Loop 2 FX AIO.
Looks like I need a cooler more like that with my 5800X, LOL!
 
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Looks like I need a cooler more like that with my 5800X, LOL!
You have options before spending money.
Try first to cap temp. Set a CPU temp limit to 75°C for example (or to a temp you like) and see how the CPU behaves and if you are satisfied by it.
Alternatively you can try ECO mode. I think its 88W (87.5) for 5800X like the 5900X.
Or tweak PBO limits but that takes time and a lot of restarts and testing...
 

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PBO limits including temps should be tried first, as they'll limit MT performance but not ST

The link in my sig has a few different suggestions from coldest, to stock performance, to above stock performance all using less power/heat than PBO going weeee
 
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Just remember that on ryzen you wont really get much lower temps, but you may get more sustained boosts
That reminds me of what seemed to happen with default PPT, TDC and EDC with the Cooler Master MA612 air cooler. It's like that's what's happening in CinebenchR23 for multi-core.
 
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Few weeks ago I upgraded my system with a 5800X and since I have not much experience with Ryzen I thought to ask a sanity check to experts in this thread

My settings

BIOS
PPT 142 (Auto by BIOS)
TDC 95 (Auto by BIOS)
EDC 140 (Auto by BIOS)
Curve -23 (all core)
boost override +50
(I know negative curve on PBO can lead to instability during idle/low load, not happened until now tho, so I hope it's fine)

Cindebench R23
Multi 16415 pts
Clock during multi: 4775~4825 (peak 4900)
Peak temp 73C

y-cruncher
Benchmark Pi (5,000,000,000)
Passed (222 sec)

Component Stress Tester
Passed (1 run of each test)
Notes:
- during few tests frequency dropped to 4600 on all core (is this expected?), on the others was comparabile to CB R23
- peak temp 77C

Gaming
Temp 60C (peak)
Frequency 4900 (all core)

Other system specs
- MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI
- 4x 8GB HyperX 3200 CL16 timings not optimised, just applied XMP profile (3200) and set 1T
- Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 (offset mount)
 
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Few weeks ago I upgraded my system with a 5800X and since I have not much experience with Ryzen I thought to ask a sanity check to experts in this thread

My settings

BIOS
PPT 142 (Auto by BIOS)
TDC 95 (Auto by BIOS)
EDC 140 (Auto by BIOS)
Curve -23 (all core)
boost override +50
(I know negative curve on PBO can lead to instability during idle/low load, not happened until now tho, so I hope it's fine)

Cindebench R23
Multi 16415 pts
Clock during multi: 4775~4825 (peak 4900)
Peak temp 73C

y-cruncher
Benchmark Pi (5,000,000,000)
Passed (222 sec)

Component Stress Tester
Passed (1 run of each test)
Notes:
- during few tests frequency dropped to 4600 on all core (is this expected?), on the others was comparabile to CB R23
- peak temp 77C

Gaming
Temp 60C (peak)
Frequency 4900 (all core)

Other system specs
- MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI
- 4x 8GB HyperX 3200 CL16 timings not optimised, just applied XMP profile (3200) and set 1T
- Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 (offset mount)
Very good R23 scores. I never seen that high numbers without applying some manual OC certainly not alone form using CO only. Maybe Golden sample or unicorn chip.

Y-crunhcer 2.5B is a more popular way to compare your performance.

Temps are really good on the at Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280. I really like it was looking at getting one of these.

If you have time you can post your scores here using Benchmate in these two threads.

 
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Very good R23 scores. I never seen that high numbers without applying some manual OC certainly not alone form using CO only. Maybe Golden sample or unicorn chip.

Y-crunhcer 2.5B is a more popular way to compare your performance.

Temps are really good on the at Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280. I really like it was looking at getting one of these.

If you have time you can post your scores here using Benchmate in these two threads.


haha unicorn chip sounds good :D so are my settings OK?
I posted the results in cb23 and yc threads ;)
 
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Cindebench R23
Multi 16415 pts
Clock during multi: 4775~4825 (peak 4900)
Peak temp 73C

Quite good sample, you should be happy! Enjoy.
 
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Quite good sample, you should be happy! Enjoy.
My temps suck, it's like the meme of third-gen-Core i5 and Core i7. Or of course, like the stock push-pin Intel heatsink.
 
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My temps suck, it's like the meme of third-gen-Core i5 and Core i7. Or of course, like the stock push-pin Intel heatsink.

The 5800X is a toasty chip. You can always treat yourself to a 280 or 360mm AIO sometime, perhaps a Noctua NH-D15/S. :D
 

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5800x cares about the quality of your coolers baseplate and its location more than the size of the cooler (covered in the first post here)

If you want to control the temps without a better cooler, thats where you need to limit some things - you've found the maximum performance settings, now you can tune them. Find what the maximum EDC/PPT/etc was used during those runs and limit it 5/10/15% lower, and see how it affects performance. 15% less power might be 1% less performance, but take a load of heat off.
 
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