5850 Fan Speed in 3D Apps Problem

[Pineh]

Hello, I'm new around here; I'm Pine. My problem: I set my fan speed to 55% manually in Afterburner, and I run Furmark. The fans get noticeably quieter and it's obvious they stop running at 55% once I start the Furmark stability test. The same thing happens with the Unigine Heaven benchmark program. I've tried closing background benchmark programs such as GPU-Z so only Furmark is open, didn't work. I tried manual settings in CCC, too. I tried to create 2 profiles in afterburner both with 55% fan speed both for 2D and 3D. Didn't work.
Basically: My fans slow down when I start the Furmark stability test, the Unigine Heaven benchmark and enter CoD4 Servers. I suspect that my fans go to the "automatic" settings once I start up a 3D application. I can't overclock with fans at 20% (auto), or my card will asplode! So I need some help getting my fan to listen to me.

Thanks guys

 

[Helper]

Did you try with Rivatuner?

 

[Pineh]

Rivatuner doesn't support 5000 series ATi cards.
Edit: Really need help over here

 

[Kofoed]

Hello Pineh And welcome to TPU.

The far as I know the fan should control itself to keep the temperture safe. So as long it's not going above 80C I wouldn't worry too much about it.
However, I understand that you want to control it manualy, have you tried to close afterburn while using the CCC fan control alone?

EDIT: Please try and save your GPU Bios by using GPU-Z and attach it in a response In case the first try fail.

 

[Pineh]

Thanks for the reply.
I tried CCC only and Afterburn only and both together, I've tried it all.
I can't save my Sapphire Radeon HD 1GB 5850's bios, when attempted a popup states, "Unable to save Bios on this device".
Still need help.

 

[Kofoed]

Damn, alright then on the techpowerup site you can download a program called Radeon bios editor. Do that and accquire the bios don't flash it, atleast not yet.

 

[Pineh]

Yea I have RBE. I just didn't want to flash since it voids my warranty, as with any card...but I'll try to save my bios with RBE.

 

[Kofoed]

Hmn. I understand, If you still have a warranty you might think of that insted. It could be somekind of a bad controller I suppose. Not sure about it tho..

 

[Pineh]

Alright, here's the saved BIOS of my card.
I couldn't attach it with the .rom extension or .7z, and I don't want to get winzip, so I've uploaded it to MediaFire, if it's alright.
http://www.mediafire.com/?u2m4mealb2y

 

[Kofoed]

Sure it's fine. I didn't know it was free tho. Or you may be a user. Oh well.
I had a look at the Bios and compared it to my own and everything is the same the far as I can see. have you tried to alt+tab out of a game and then turn up the fan speed, or using the catalyst profile?
Other then that im not sure of what you could do by software. I suppose the fan connecter is connected right since the fan is active and everything..
Again try and use the warrantly, I would probably do that.
It just seems very odd why the fan would go back to auto when you start any game, I never had this problem with any of my ATI cards.

 

[Pineh]

I think it has something to do with profiles, with a 3D profile with auto fan kicking in upon starting games and benchmarks. I doubt it's a hardware problem, and I doubt they'd send me a new 5850 on claims of the fan controller being faulty, so I guess I'll reinstall windows and see what happens then.

 

[erocker]

If you are going to use Afterburner you need to make sure that ATi Overdrive is turned off. They don't play nice together. If you just need fan control, I would suggest uninstalling Afterburner and just use overdrive to control your fans.

 

[Pineh]

I'm wanting to overclock with Afterburner and control fans with it as well, but the fans turn down during 3D apps (and I don't have the profiles for 2D/3D mode on). After the fans went down with Afterburner during 3D apps, I tried settings fans manually with CCC to see if it will still turn down, and it still did. So I need both programs, but I've tried to use only CCC at stock clocks and only Afterburner at stock clocks. Nothing seems to work.

 

[Kofoed]

Yes, I also agree that it seems very wierd it should be anything with the card. Im just running low on ideas

 

[Pineh]

Yea, I've asked around everywhere. Nobody's had any ideas, it's come down to reinstall/flash.
If I reinstall, I'll still want afterburner to overclock, and I'll be back to square one.
If I flash, no warranty.

 

[Kofoed]

yes but I don't see any good reason to flash the bios no more. The bios is 100% the same as mine, ofc not the clock values but fan values. Only thing you could do is to set the minium lowest fan speed on auto. But that won't make you able to control it by any other software as you want to.

 

[Pineh]

Anyway, I guess I won't overclock then. There's really nothing I can do except flash or try to reinstall which will probably do nothing.
The auto fan speeds don't ramp up from 20% until about 80 degrees or so at which point it goes to 30%, and it won't go up from there. I've seen the GPU pass 90 with auto, the fans don't ramp up enough.

 

[Kofoed]

Hmn.. You could try to reinstall and use some older drivers if you choose to use the Catalyst Control Center. Also make sure to close all other programs that could conflict with CCC. Otherwise I doubt it will do anything.

 

[erocker]

Did you untick the box in Overdrive?

 

[Pineh]

Yea, I've tried afterburner without over drive. Heck, I've tried Afterburner after uninstalling my drivers and then using driver sweep in safe mode to completely scrub my system clean of my card's drivers and reinstalled the newest drivers with overdrive not even enabled; still nothing.
I doubt older drivers will help since I've done the above.
thanks for the help guys, I think I'll reinstall, as it's my only option.

 

[Kofoed]

Please report hows it going after a reinstall.

 

[Pineh]

I'll be reinstalling in a couple days; Should I just install CCC and try manual fan setting from there, or go ahead and install afterburner too?

 

[Kofoed]

I would try CCC alone first. Just in case they are having conflict.