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600 Watt budget PSUs Battle

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  1. rakesh_sharma23

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    600 Watt budget PSUs Battle
    Corsair VS650 - vs - Cooler Master MasterWatt 600 - vs - Antec VP650
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    I have reviewed few PSUs in past two years or so mostly all were higher end expensive computer PSUs and I am constantly asked by many to suggest a budget gaming PSU or review one. I have few budget PSUs with me and was for long willing to test them but didn’t have a good idea or inspiration for an article.

    But recently I got news about Cooler Master’s new PSU lineup the “MasterWatt” and “MasterWatt Lite” series of PSU, offering new design and features with improved performance and reliability. I was more interested in MasterWatt Lite series as they would be having lower price spectrum. I contacted guys at Cooler Master India to confirm and was surprised to know that MasterWatt Lite 600 is indeed a under Rs.5K price tag product.

    600 + watts and with a under Rs.5K of price tag, is the PSU every budget gamer or pc builder looking for. This gave me an idea to do a comparison between PSUs with 600 + watts of power and are under Rs.5K. I already have Corsair VS650 and Antek VP650 with me, and when shared the idea with Cooler Master India, I also got a sample of Cooler Master’s MasterWatt Lite 600 PSU.

    So now about this article. This comparison is not about the marketing features of these three PSUs (For that you can find respected product links at the end of this article), but rather about the features, product performance and reliability which is more important for a budget buyer.

    I will be doing a detailed inside-out run on these PSUs and will be giving each a point (at a scale of 1 to 5, i.e. BAD to GOOD, not EXCELLENT as these are budget PSUs) at every segment of this article. In the end we can club these points together to find which PSU is best among these… Simple.

    Now let’s begin the comparison.
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    Product looks and details

    What you get out of the box.
    All PSUs comes in a cardboard box with PSU, manual and decent AC power cable. PSUs are build with requisite quality and thickness of iron sheet for rigidness and minimization of interference.
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    All three PSU are having a 120mm fan for cooling and a power ON/OFF switch along with Main IEC power connector.
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    SCORE

    Corsair VS650 = 5

    Antec VP650 = 5

    Master Watt 600 = 5

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    Cables and Connectors
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    All PSUs have decent 18AWG cables. Among all three, Antec cables was little stiff and Corsair is having full single braided cables. As per connectors, beside 24pin ATX, 8pin CPU and (1 by 2) 8pin PCIe connectors Corsair is having 4 Molex and 3 SATA connectors, Antec is having 3 Molex and 6 SATA connectors. Finally Cooler Master is having 4 Molex and 6 SATA connectors


    SCORE
    Corsair VS650 = 5

    Antec VP650 = 4

    Master Watt 600 = 4

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    Inside looks and Components detail
    Now let’s open these PSU to see what all they have for us. Note very few of PSU brands manufacture their own entry level PSU. Here only Cooler Master manufactures it’s MasterWatt PSU, remaining two are OEM. Corsair have CWT as OEM and Antec goes for Delta Electronics.
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    Component details are segregated as following.

    Transient Filter stage
    Transient filter starts right from the IEC connectors via wires wrapped around ferrite ring to the PCB (Corsair is have a separate ferrite coil on the PCB) fulfilling all the transient filtering needs, components namely two CM chokes and two pairs of X and Y caps. Unfortunately there is no MOV (Metal Oxide Varistor) present on the Antec PSU, so this PSU is susceptible to spikes coming from the power grid.

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    SCORE
    Corsair VS650 = 5

    Antec VP650 = 3

    Master Watt 600 = 5
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    PCB
    First look on the PCBs gives an impression that the build quality of Antec seems to be very good, but later found Antec to have the thinnest and poorest PCB. When I started de-soldering the components off the Antec PCB whatever low temperature I tune on my soldering iron, the copper traces pops off with the components on Antec PCB. So I decided not to de-solder any components off Antec. Too bad. Remaining two PSU have good quality PCB.

    Corsair PCB Front and Back.
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    Antec PCB Front and Back.
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    Cooler Master PCB Front and Back.
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    SCORE
    Corsair VS650 = 4

    Antec VP650 = 2

    Master Watt 600 = 5
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    MAIN Bridge rectifier
    Both Corsair and Cooler Master is having the same GBU606, a 6amp bridge rectifier, where as Antec is having 8amp GBU8K bridge rectifier that too on a separate heatsink. Though at 600W loads cooling of bridge rectifier is not needed, but extra cooling is always welcome.

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    SCORE
    Corsair VS650 = 4

    Antec VP650 = 5

    Master Watt 600 = 4
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    MAIN Primary Capacitor
    High voltage DC from Mains AC is filtered by big hold capacitor in a PSU. This is one of the key component depending for smooth DC-DC conversion. And this is most likely the top most candidate responsible for any PSU failure.
    I am personally disappoint to have a 85C ratting main cap on all three PSU, although 85C is doing the job, but please a 105C rating main cap is the best.
    Below table give the technical details of each cap, giving us an idea about its quality and help in giving points. Beside all the datasheet figures, I know with my last 12 years of electronics experience the Elite cap are the most busted caps I have seen among these three.

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    SCORE
    Corsair VS650
    • Brand : Elite GM
    • Rating : 330uf/400v 85C
    • Endurance : 2000 hours
    • Dissipation Factor ** : 0.15
    • Rated ripple : 1.85 *Hmm… even quality caps have 2.00 or above
    = 2

    Antec VP650
    • Brand : SAMXON LP
    • Rating : 330uf/450v 85C
    • Endurance : Strangely nothing specified by manufacturer in Datasheet
    • Dissipation Factor ** : 0.20
    • Rated ripple : 2.12
    = 3

    Master Watt 600
    • Brand : TEAPO LH
    • Rating : 390uf/400v 85C
    • Endurance : 2000 hours
    • Dissipation Factor ** : 0.15
    • Rated ripple : 2.15

    = 5
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    ** Dissipation factor (tan d)or DF is defined as the ratio of the ESR and capacitive reactance. It is the reciprocal of quality factor Lower DF means higher quality.

    APFC and Main Switching MOSFET
    Both Antec and Cooler Master have a single MOSFET, where as Corsair have two MOSFET(in parallel) in APFC stage along with APF Diode. Main switchers are two MOSFETs all adequate for mentioned ratings.

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    SCORE
    Corsair VS650
    • APFC MOSTET : 2 x GPT13N50D
    • APFC DIODE : GR05-1438
    • Main MOSTET: 2 x GPT18N50DG (18amp each)
    = 4

    Antec VP650
    • APFC MOSTET : HP 20N50F
    • APFC DIODE : un-readable
    • Main MOSTET: 2 x SPP15N60C3 (15amp each)
    = 3

    Master Watt 600
    • APFC MOSTET : F-Cell SVF20N50F
    • APFC DIODE : NP-PJA1610
    • Main MOSTET: 2 x F-Cell SVF20N50F (20amp each)
    = 5
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    APFC and Switching Controller
    Different manufacturers used different SMPS design with different controllers and protection chips. Every chip is a well designed package with lot of embedded features suitable for a power supply. All three PSU uses equivalent chips but with slight different implementation.

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    SCORE
    Corsair VS650
    • PWM/APFC : CM6805BC
    = 5

    Antec VP650
    • PWM/APFC : FAN4800A
    = 5

    Master Watt 600
    • PWM/APFC : CM6800
    = 5
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    Stand-By Switching Controller
    All ATX PSUs have a separate 5v Stand-By circuit, which used to mostly power the Soft-Start segment of the PSU and Motherboard.

    Antec and Corsair Stand-By Segment
    Antec and Corsair used similar type of chip for their Stand-By segment. TinySwitch Single chip Switcher solution, which incorporates High voltage MOSFET and control circuitry on one dye.
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    Cooler Master Stand-By Segment
    Cooler Master used separate switching controller chip and discrete Power MOSFET and other power components for its Stand-By segment. Design is good and more reliable than single chip solution.
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    SCORE
    Corsair VS650
    • Stand-By PWM : TNY177PN
    = 4

    Antec VP650
    • Stand-By PWM : TNY278PN
    = 4

    Master Watt 600
    • Stand-By PWM : AT6002HS
    = 5
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    Secondary Schottky rectifier
    All PC Switching mode power supplies uses dual center tap Schottky rectifiers in secondary stage and even installed in parallel to double the current handling of the DC- DC conversion.
    We will judge the PSU according to the total Ampere ratings of the Schottky rectifiers for each DC rail output.

    Corsair Secondary Schottky rectifiers
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    Antec ** Secondary Schottky rectifiers can’t be de-soldered due to poor quality of Copper trace bonding on the PCB.
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    Cooler Master Secondary Schottky rectifiers
    All 12v and 5v Schottky rectifiers are having small green ferrite rings over the DC output leads. This helps in filtering out the high frequency edge off the DC rails and improves ripple management. Great job Cooler Master for this.
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    SCORE
    Corsair VS650
    • 12v : 4 x PFC40V60CT (40amp each)
    • 5v : PFC30L30CT (30amp)
    • 3.3v: ST30L45CW (30amp)
    = 4

    Antec VP650
    • 12v : 2 x STPS30L60CT (30amp each)
    • 5v : 2 x STPS20L60CT (20amp each)
    • 3.3v: MBR3045(30amp)
    = 3

    Master Watt 600
    • 12v : 4 x AUS4060CT (40amp each)
    • 5v : PFC30L30CT (30amp each)
    • 3.3v: ST30L45CW (30amp each)
    = 5
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    Secondary Filter Caps
    These PSUs are designed for budget market, so you will get decent brand caps at secondary filter stage.
    For decent filtration minimum of 2200uf filter caps should be used in DC-DC convertors. So we will judge this segment according to total capacitance on each voltage output.
    All secondary caps on these three PSUs are 105C rated.

    Corsair Secondary Filter Caps
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    Antec Secondary Filter Caps
    Being this a budget unit I was first surprised to see a Solid Cap and premium Japanese Rubycon Caps on Antec PCB. But looking closely found that the solid cap and Rubycon Cap were just installed on 12V rail and remaining 5V and 3.3V was having Taicon and LTec caps. This is weird, its seems like these premium caps are installed for a reason or better say a “PATCH”, as later I notice significantly high voltage ripple on 12V rail. It seem engineers were trying to fix high ripple issue due to some design or PCB layout fault, but still problem is not fully rectified. Hmm ..
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    Cooler Master Secondary Filter Caps
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    SCORE
    Corsair VS650
    • 12v : 2 x 2200uf/16v (CapXon)
    • 5v : 2200uf/10v(CapXon) + 1000uf/16v(Suscon)
    • 3.3v: 2200uf/10v(Suscon) + 2 x 1000uf/16v(Suscon)
    • 5v SB : 2200uf/10v(CapXon) + 1000uf/16v(Suscon)
    = 4

    Antec VP650
    • 12v : 470uf/16v(Solid Cap) + 2200uf/16v (Rubycon) + 1000uf/16v (Rubycon)
    • 5v : 1500uf/10v(Taicon) + 2200uf/16v(Taicon)
    • 3.3v: 3300uf/6.3v(LTec) + 1000uf/6.3v(LTec)
    • 5v SB : 2200uf/16v(LTec) + 1000uf/16v(LTec)
    = 2

    Master Watt 600
    • 12v : 2 x 2200uf/16v (Teapo)
    • 5v : 2200uf/10v(Teapo) + 1000uf/16v(Suscon)
    • 3.3v: 2200uf/10v(Teapo) + 2 x 1000uf/16v(Suscon)
    • 5v SB : 2200uf/10v(Teapo) + 1000uf/10v(Teapo)
    = 4
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    Protection Chip
    All PSU have decent protection chip onboard for Short circuit, over voltage and over current.

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    Antec
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    SCORE
    Corsair VS650
    • Protection : Sitronix ST9S429-PG14
    = 5

    Antec VP650
    • Protection : DWA106 + LM393
    = 5

    Master Watt 600
    • Protection : SiTI PS229 + LM393(on backside)
    = 5
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    Cooling
    For cooling solution all three PSU have a 120mm fan

    Corsair – FAN
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    Antec – FAN
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    Cooler Master – FAN
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    Speed of fan is controlled via a simple thermostat and power transistor circuit. For fan to react according to the internal temperature thermostat should be properly installed onto the heatsink. Both Cooler Master and Antec have done it right, but unfortunately that is not true for Corsair.


    Corsair
    Below you can clearly see that thermostat is just soldered onto the PCB and is having a gape of about 1-1.5mm from secondary heatsink so real temperature is never registered by the thermostat and fan will not ramp-up when needed the most. This results in higher junction temperature on power devices and over all higher operating temperature of the PSU, lowering the overall PSU life and I think this is the main reason of high failure rate of this PSU.
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    Antec
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    Cooler Master
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    SCORE
    Corsair VS650 = 2

    Antec VP650 = 5

    Master Watt 600 = 5
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    Load Test
    To test the PSU on my Active load test, I have manually increased the load in Amps on 12v first rail, 12v second rail, 5v and 3.3v rail to simulate 100%, 80% 50% and 20% load. Since this PSU is having only single 12v rail, so divided the load in half on both 12v loads on my tester.
    5V stand-by and -12V supply was left at a constant 0.5amp load throughout the test run.
    Maximum theoretical load handling capacity of my tester is somewhat around 1500W, but due to MOSFETs safe operating area (SOA) characteristics and thermal load handling capacity of the heatsinks, this tester can handle Max 1300W.. For safety reasons I have also installed a thermal controller which turn OFF the attached PSU if temperature exceeds SOA specifications.

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    SCORE
    Corsair VS650 = 3

    Antec VP650 = 5

    Master Watt 600 = 5
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    Over Load Run
    During this test we try to pull more than specified power of the PSU. So at certain point PSU should turn OFF by itself showing proper working of Overload protection or should die showing absence of any protection.
    Below is the absolute Max power we were able to pull from these PSUs.

    SCORE
    Corsair VS650
    • 672W
    = 4

    Antec VP650
    • 667W
    = 4

    Master Watt 600
    • 695W
    = 5
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    Voltage Ripple
    We measured range of ripple using oscilloscope at maximum rating of the PSU for 12v, 5v and 3.3v supply output in Pk-Pk(mv).
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    ATX specification for Ripple Pk-Pk(mv) for +12v is 120mv and for +5v and +3.3V it is 50mv. So let’s seen which PSU gives lowest ripple.

    SCORE
    Corsair VS650
    • 12v : 80 - 90mv
    • 5v : 22.5 - 24mv
    • 3.3v : 20 - 28mv
    = 4

    Antec VP650
    • 12v : 110 - 98mv
    • 5v : 18 - 20mv
    • 3.3v : 16 - 19mv
    = 3

    Master Watt 600
    • 12v : 75 - 53mv
    • 5v : 13 - 15mv
    • 3.3v : 15 - 16mv
    = 5
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    Voltage Regulation
    We measured change in voltage of different rail from 20% load up till the overload protection of the PSU is triggered.
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    ATX specification for Voltage range min. to max. is as following.
    • 12v : 11.40v to 12.60v
    • 5v : 4.75v to 5.25v
    • 3.3v : 3.135v to 3.465v

    Starting and end voltage readings with drift in voltage is listed below.

    SCORE
    Corsair VS650
    • 12v : 12v - 11.5v (drift 0.5v)
    • 5v : 5.04v – 5v (drift 0.04v)
    • 3.3v : 3.31v – 3.3v (drift 0.01v)
    = 3

    Antec VP650
    • 12v : 12.1v - 11.8v (drift 0.3v)
    • 5v : 5.04v – 5.01v (drift 0.03v)
    • 3.3v : 3.34 v – 3.29v (drift 0.05v)
    = 4

    Master Watt 600
    • 12v : 12.1v - 12v (drift 0.1v)
    • 5v : 5.04v – 4.98v (drift 0.06v)
    • 3.3v : 3.31v – 3.3v (drift 0.01v)
    = 4
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    Temperature
    To measure exact thermal performance of the PSU, we mounted our thermostat with proper thermals onto the Primary heatsink of the PSU and top cover with fan is closed properly.
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    Before and after every test PSU and test equipments were turned OFF for half an hour. 500w of load is applied to each PSU for duration of about 5 minutes and change in temperature is measured.
    Starting and end temperature readings are listed below. And as I mentioned earlier in Cooling section, due to thermostat placement, the primary heatsink of Corsair PSU is touching 88C not good.

    SCORE
    Corsair VS650
    • 25C to 88C
    = 1

    Antec VP650
    • 25C to 72C
    = 5

    Master Watt 600
    • 25C to 73C
    = 5
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    PC Performance
    To test these PSUs in a real world scenario I installed an old power hungry graphics card, the HD7990 and ran 3Dmark2006 and measured voltage at PCIe power connector.

    Test system configuration -

    CPU - Intel Core i7 6700K
    Board - GIGABYTE Z170 Gaming G1
    RAM - 2 X 4GB Corsair DDR4 3000Mhz
    SSD - Kingston 120GB SSD
    Cooler / Case - Custom
    GFX - ASUS HD7990
    Display - ASUS PB287Q
    OS - Windows 10

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    12v reading was good at this test. At stock GPU setting everything went fine for all PSU, but when GFX is overclocked closed to 1100MHz, the Corsair PSU gave a BSOD and computer restarted.

    SCORE
    Corsair VS650 = 2

    Antec VP650 = 4

    Master Watt 600 = 5
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    Conclusion

    Final Score
    Out of total score of 95, following are the final scores of each PSU

    SCORE
    Corsair VS650 = 70

    Antec VP650 = 74

    Master Watt 600 = 91
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    There not much to say now, the final scores is self explanatory. Still considering the price, Cooler Master’s new Master Watt Lite series PSU is definite a game changer in the segment and will create a good competition and may inspire other brands to redo their budget PSU segment. Which is actually good for the market as latest graphics cards are becoming more and more power efficient, a 600W PSU is sufficient for mostly all single card gaming build and if we get good price to performance ratio from a product it’s always welcomed.

    Thanks



    Links : CORSAIR VS650
    Links : MASTERWatt Lite 600
    Links : Antec VPS650
     
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    the antec PCB work on the back looked cleanest, whatever the green PCB was looked sloppy as heck.
     
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    Yes my first impression was the same, but thickness and bonding quality of copper traces to the PCB is poor.
     
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    Good job mate, a really nice in depth review.
     
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    Thanks for testing. I used to own a vs550, a real piece of shit, it would coil whine the whole time. I don't know why so many people love them...
    I also have built a lot of PCs with CM PSUs and I think they are pretty good too. I would have expected more from Antec though.
     
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    Weird that solid caps are still not the norm :(
     
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    Good review.

    FYI, all of MasterWatt series (Lite or Maker) are built by Enhance.
     
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    I swear to God Hertz, after reading this line i knew CM is going to win this "review" :D
     
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    Now thats what I call a Great Review. If only other components could get tested so indepth.
     
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    That's still ~$75. Thanks though, nice to know there's an acceptable low cost PSU available there, even if it is CM/Enhance. "shutters"
    The prices of PSU's over there continue to be outrageous. A decent Gold rated ~500 watt unit? ~$200/Rs.14K! The good old Antec Earthwatts EA-380D is Rs.9,742/$145 ooh, it is on sale, Rs.8,281/$124.
     
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    I wonder how much a SS S12-II 430 is there
     
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    Without going over the details, I like the format of this. Nice.
     
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    The bad thing is, countries with lower income not only usually have higher taxes, but since people can't afford to buy the good stuff, they don't get volume discounts either. That's just how it works.
     
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    Great post. I'd like to see how the EVGA B series stacks up to these.
     
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    cdawall where the hell are my stars

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    So when did thickness of the pcb determine quality? If it is thick enough for proper trace routing and heat handling any thicker is just a waste of money.

    Reading through the review it almost looks like you had a chip against the Antec unit almost every single test not only did it best the Corsair it stomped it performance wise yet your objective scoring puts it nearly the same...

    And in your overwattage test why are you rewarding an incorrectly set max wattage? Being able to overdraw a psu isn't a feature.
     
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    Thanks cdawall Sir and everyone for kind replies.

    In this article I tried to give a score in every segment according to my finding and experience. And someone may or may not agree with my finding or judgment, so that’s the reason I shared the article and that’s the beautify of forum. Anyone can judge according to his/her wisdom or knowledge and can get to know what is right for him.

    I may be right or may be wrong..or missed something or some aspect totally. Forum and we all are here to share our knowledge and help the community.

    I have learned a lot for all these forums and trying my best to give something back and contribute to this community. Still learning and improving.

    Thanks and keep sharing your views Good or bad everything is welcomed by heart.

    Now cdawall sir, I personally think PCB thickness of power supply do matter. Whenever I opened any old PSU (used for long time specially at that time thermal compound of dry out ) I found all PCB were gone black or dark near heat dissipating power components , due to the fact that some heat travels via pins on to PCB tracks and they too get heated. Thicker PCB may definitely lowers this effect.

    This is my findings. I have given lower score to Antec PCB for not just thickness, but due to the fact that whenever I tried to de-solder a component off the PCB, the copper track also pops off from the PCB, showing the poor bond quality of Copper onto the PCB.

    One more thing I have not mentioned please check in the pic below. Whenever one install a power device onto a heatsink, they use thermal compound or a thermal pad, using both together is not practiced or recommended. But Antec PSU used both.
     

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    cdawall where the hell are my stars

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    How curious that's good information. I do like the review it was a pretty good tear down.
     
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    A thicker PCB means more layers which in turn means easier (better?) wire routing. Still, thickness comes a cost and I don't think anyone will use a PCB thicker than they need to. Considering 99.99999% of the users will do nothing more than maybe look at the PCB, I wouldn't factor its thickness into the rating of the PSU. It could be a thing if you're a DIYer that plans to mod or repair the PSU yourself.
     
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    I disagree @bug. I have some very limited knowledge building basic 12v PSU's (back when CB radios were a thing). PCBs thickness matters, as does the the thickness of the copper. The issue with the Antec copper falling away has to do with heat and the bond of the copper to the breadboard, and also the etching process. If the copper is too thin, or the etch left too long in the solution, you can have problems. I have not exactly kept up to date on how boards are made now, if soldering/de-soldering is an issue, then the board is considered sub-par or even junk.
     
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    My few cents to polish it up. PCB thickness matters... size always matters!!

    It needs noise tests during load and idle.

    So my thoughts.
    1. No polymers? No one deserves a 5. No Japan? No one deserves a 4 too. Plain below average. Yea Teapo slowly washes off his old buldy past, but still, a fat 3pts at max.
    2. Needs stand by consumption tests during idle not.
    3. Inrush current?
    4. Better description of cables and their length, in the picture they really look different each.
    5. Voltage regulation. Antec and CM both have score 4. Well... despite CM being better... at least for a one point not fair.
     
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    Out of all of these, ill probably chose the Antec one, and here's why.

    I've been working in selling and repairing PC parts for about 8 years now in some major retailers, and i've seen the return rate numbers.
    Honestly, Antec is always on top of the game, especially the VP series. I love how reliable these are.

    Edit: Its nothing new, as you can see
    https://www.techpowerup.com/138174/antec-psus-achieve-lowest-failure-rate-study
     
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    Thanks for response and yes Sir i know my self the reliability of Delta PSU, the old VP series were good , but this new V2 version is.. dont know what happened at Delta with this one.
     
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    Great feedback and points are noted Sir, If possible will try to add those. But definitely will be incorporated these in any new article like this... Thanks for sharing your views Sir.
     
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