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7zip because is does everything WinRAR does plus more and you don't have to pay for it. This isn't even a question. :p
 

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oh wait you use winrar in shareware mode via context menu, i see i see

Correct. This way I use what IMO personally is the better program, and use it free. WINRAR only gets activated if you double-click on a zipped or RAR'ed file. Right click context menu and pick one of the choices (extract here, extract to..., etc) and it works forever for free.
 
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I use winrar x64, never paid for it, just click ok on the notification and it always worked for me.
 
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Never paid for Winrar used it years, as mentioned if you right click your files it just works and even if you double click them you get some notification or other, I just close it and it works all the time. I'ts generally one of the first things I install on a clean install including drivers/AV etc
 
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7-zip

It's free, simple, no bloat or nags and has superb compression. LZMA2 is awesome. It can use as many CPU cores as you can offer to the program, meaning it'll provide amazing output rate. In my case even beyond 20MB/s which is lightning fast. Most other archivers take 50x longer (at rates like few hundred KB/s) and only gain 1-2MB better compression with several gigabytes of data. Just not worth the crazy waiting time for such tiny benefits. LZMA2 is fast and has great results.

Also, as a side note, RAR5 format is now also using a derivate of LZ77 compression (basically LZMA), meaning it'll have roughly the same compression, usually a bit worse than LZMA2 in 7-zip.

Oh and 7-zip allows you to create higher compression rate standard ZIP archives. Just ramp up the word size parameter and you'll gain quite some better compression rate while keeping the ZIP compatibility.

There is also alternative named PeaZip. It has a nice interface, supports tons of archives and it's also free. It is a bit quirky sometimes since it's a front end for various archivers...
 
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I use Winrar. Most of the files I deal with are a few hundred MB to a couple of GB. Winrar deals with them without an issue, and even lets me preview them without a problem. My experience with 7-zip is that any highly compressed archive makes previewing the files impossible, and the decompression itself generally takes longer (I've run Winrar and 7-zip in parallel and 7-zip took 10-30% longer).

The caveat is the testing was done about 3 years ago, using x86 versions of each program. I've since upgraded to x64 winrar, and haven't seen any problems. No problems means no reason to switch programs.


As far as paying, I have a paid version on my media server and gaming rig. I keep the latest 30 day trial around for installs. Once you've done all of the install, most people don't even bring up the winrar program. Those who do generally just click on the "next" button, and never have to pay for it (but they do have to click through the "please pay" menu). It was a good investment at the time, and I see no reason to change to a "free" option when paid version is working fine.
 

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I use Winrar. Most of the files I deal with are a few hundred MB to a couple of GB. Winrar deals with them without an issue, and even lets me preview them without a problem. My experience with 7-zip is that any highly compressed archive makes previewing the files impossible, and the decompression itself generally takes longer (I've run Winrar and 7-zip in parallel and 7-zip took 10-30% longer).

7zip tends to be a bit more touchy on the files as well. Several times (not numerous, but several) I've had zip-files that wouldn't open in 7zip but did in Winrar (generally pretty small files). But I don't really deal with compressed files these days, and it's rare, so whatevs.
 
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Anyone use peazip? I used to use it but i think it didn't support a certain format this was years ago mind you. Currently use 7zip because it supports a multitude of formats, is free and just work. The right click context menu is extremely handy.
 
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Download and install 7-zip. Even if it comes as beta or alpha it is still more stable than any software available on market. WinRar for regular user and even advanced user has no real advantages over 7-zip.

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Money which you saved by installing 7-zip instead of buying winrar license you can send to my paypal account, this is address:
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I use Winrar. Most of the files I deal with are a few hundred MB to a couple of GB. Winrar deals with them without an issue, and even lets me preview them without a problem. My experience with 7-zip is that any highly compressed archive makes previewing the files impossible, and the decompression itself generally takes longer (I've run Winrar and 7-zip in parallel and 7-zip took 10-30% longer).

The caveat is the testing was done about 3 years ago, using x86 versions of each program. I've since upgraded to x64 winrar, and haven't seen any problems. No problems means no reason to switch programs.


As far as paying, I have a paid version on my media server and gaming rig. I keep the latest 30 day trial around for installs. Once you've done all of the install, most people don't even bring up the winrar program. Those who do generally just click on the "next" button, and never have to pay for it (but they do have to click through the "please pay" menu). It was a good investment at the time, and I see no reason to change to a "free" option when paid version is working fine.

That's because you don't understand how things work.

Solid compression option improves compression at expense of extracting individual files from the archive. Disable solid compression and you'll be able to quickly view any file inside archive. With solid compression, you have to extract entire archive every time even though you only need one tiny file from it.

Use solid compression for single big files or lots of small files that will always be entirely extract. Disable solid compression if you plan on regularly extract individual files. RAR format also has solid compression but afaik it's defaulting to disabled where in 7zip it's defaulting to enabled especially at higher compression presets (like Ultra).
 

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Money which you saved by installing 7-zip instead of buying winrar license

Or you can read various people's posts above about how to not buy WinRAR and keep using it. :D
 

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That's because you don't understand how things work.

Solid compression option improves compression at expense of extracting individual files from the archive. Disable solid compression and you'll be able to quickly view any file inside archive. With solid compression, you have to extract entire archive every time even though you only need one tiny file from it.

Use solid compression for single big files or lots of small files that will always be entirely extract. Disable solid compression if you plan on regularly extract individual files. RAR format also has solid compression but afaik it's defaulting to disabled where in 7zip it's defaulting to enabled especially at higher compression presets (like Ultra).
This. I also feel that 7zip gives you more flexibility with respect to how it gets compressed, at least for .7z using LZMA2. Big dictionaries can help too but, you're limited by system memory. 7zip offers a lot of "trade-off" settings which is something I like.

7zip has block-sized segmentation instead of doing solid as well as individual files, once again as you said, at the expense of compression.
 

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7-zip since 2006. Never looked back.
Out of all shareware on Windows I ditched WinRAR first.

At one point I tried KGB archiver, but that did not work well (too slow for a little compression benefit).
 
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WinZip in the past, WinRar for now. I'm happy with it. It does the job, why changing ?
 
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That's because you don't understand how things work.

Solid compression option improves compression at expense of extracting individual files from the archive. Disable solid compression and you'll be able to quickly view any file inside archive. With solid compression, you have to extract entire archive every time even though you only need one tiny file from it.

Use solid compression for single big files or lots of small files that will always be entirely extract. Disable solid compression if you plan on regularly extract individual files. RAR format also has solid compression but afaik it's defaulting to disabled where in 7zip it's defaulting to enabled especially at higher compression presets (like Ultra).

I do believe that you're barking up the wrong tree here.

I say so, because you seem to assume that I'm the one creating the archived files without the ability to preview. I don't, but often some ancient files need dug up, and they've often been compressed by somebody who didn't give a crap about ease of access, only the amount of space taken up on the drive.

Additionally, you seem to be unaware of the features of winrar. There are quite a few ways to change the compression in the paid version of the software. They're buried in menus, but they are there. Perhaps the free version lacks them. I cannot speak to that, as I have the paid for version.
 

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Installed 7zip on my work PC. It is OK but the interface surely is, well, plain. Guess I will recommend WinRAR then.
 
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If I recall correctly 7z is also slightly smaller than RAR at their best option but it took longer time to compress - could be twice as long compared to WinRAR. I heard the newer 7zip is faster but can't find the comparison.
So far WinRAR is snappier to use and fortunately shareware status doesn't bother me.

I once use WinACE just for the sake it's not WinZip and WinRAR :D
 
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I prefer WinRAR over 7-Zip, but I was given a paid version years ago and I can use it on Linux and Windows (7-Zip is Linux friendly as well).. Honestly, 7-Zip is just as good and free.. So, if you have the money then buy WinRAR, but if not 7-Zip all the way. WinRAR and WinZip use to be the ones to get for Windows, but all the Windows operating systems starting with Me can open Zip files. Since then WinZip's popularity has declined.. Oh and I like the plain UI with WinRAR and 7zip as well, but you can theme both of them. You really can't go wrong with either of them.

This Windows feature was introduced with Windows 98 Plus Addition
 
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I do believe that you're barking up the wrong tree here.

I say so, because you seem to assume that I'm the one creating the archived files without the ability to preview. I don't, but often some ancient files need dug up, and they've often been compressed by somebody who didn't give a crap about ease of access, only the amount of space taken up on the drive.

Additionally, you seem to be unaware of the features of winrar. There are quite a few ways to change the compression in the paid version of the software. They're buried in menus, but they are there. Perhaps the free version lacks them. I cannot speak to that, as I have the paid for version.

I'm barking at the right tree. It's solid compression that forces decompressor to unpack entire archive when you need just one file, resulting in VERY lenghty decompression. Without it, any file will open up instantly. Not direct preview within archiver, but frankly in more than decade, I've never needed it so much that regular decompression wouldn't be enough.
 
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7 zip is my choice. Winrar is not bad either but for little I use it for 7 zip does the job.
 
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I use both. Have a habit of peeking in the archive with 7zip, unzipping with winrar. I think it's because of how the context menus worked for each program. Obviously haven't paid for winrar as I haven't paid even for Windows, got mine from ninite.com and is still running.
 

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I used to use 7zip but now I I use Bandizip. Has full functionality for those rare occurrences where I still have to deal with some jack ass who decided to split a file into about 100 separate .rar files, but I don't have to use WinRAR which I just despise as a program.

If it's between WinRAR and 7zip, I'd choose 7zip all day every day. But my actual vote goes to Bandizip.
 
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