7800X3D and 5070 Ti / 9070 XT Build

[DemonSlayerx]

CPU*	AMD Ryzen 7800X3D	$434.10
CPU Cooler	Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360	$171.01
Motherboard*	Asrock X870 Steel Legend	$394.63
RAM	Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2x16) 6000 MHz CL30	$157.85
Case	Lian Li O11 Vision Compact	$157.85
PSU*	Corsair RM1000e	$263.09
GPU*	Gainward RTX 5070 TI Phoenix	$1089.17
		Total: $26687.7

I am not in NA so prices are different around here. Links are not from a NA website so sorry about that but I put down the prices.

I have 2 NVMe SSDs I will be bringing over from my old PC so I won't buy storage FYI. I have a KC3000 and a random Sandisk NVMe.

I've got a LG 27GR83Q-B 1440p 240Hz. I basically play all types of games. I do competitive CS2 and Marvel Rivals. I play GOW Ragnarok, TLOU, RDR2. I play indie games.

CPU: First I wanted to get 9800X3D but since there is not a huge difference in performance but it's around $613 meaning $179 more than 7800X3D. I figured not to and also AMD is expected to release new CPUs for the AM5 platform there is a chance to upgrade.

Motherboard: I am not entirely sure about the motherboard. I would like fast USB speeds and I know PCIe 5.0 practically gives the same performance as 4.0 but maybe it's a little more future proof? So I could get another white decent looking motherboard I don't know what though.

PSU: I actually want to get Corsair RM1000x it was cheaper than 1000e and also I know it's better than 1000e. So currently I am waiting stock on that.

GPU: I'll either get the cheapest 5070 Ti or 9070 XT right now. Cheapest 9070 XT is around Sapphire RX 9070 XT Pulse = $947.19 Which one I should get?

However I am thinking about getting a 32" 4K OLED monitor later this year. Also since getting a 4K screen will be more demanding I am thinking about getting whatever the best price/performance GPU for me will be. Presumably RTX 50 SUPER series. Doubt my 5070 Ti or 9070 XT would lose much of value so financing the new GPU should be rather easy.

Case fans: Thermalright TL-C12W-S V3 ARGB I'll get 5 of these 2 exhaust and 3 at the bottom blowing upwards.

Other than the GPU I am targeting a white build.

What do you guys think? Is this the best approach for me?

 

[Bobaganoosh]

The AIO mount plan for that case has the tubes going towards the back wall of the case, then come through a channel and down to the CPU. The Arctic Liquid Freezer line uses some thick radiators, so you'll want to make sure that isn't an issue and there's still room for the tubes to make that bend and come through the channel. Some of these cases end up essentially designing things in a way to force you into using their cooler, so something to watch out for.

For the motherboard, you could also look at the B850 Steel Legend. It's cheaper here, but I'm not sure if it's available where you are. It even has one more M.2 slot for some reason. CPU power phases, memory compatibility, ethernet, wifi are all the same. The X870 has USB4 on it, including use as a video-output, but otherwise, there are the same quantity of USB headers and most are the same speed. Basically, if you don't need the USB4, they're the same board. So that could save you a few bucks.

As for 9070XT's, I like what I've seen from the Powercolor ones the most and in the US they even seem more reasonably priced than most. My brother has the 9070 Red Devil and it run super cool, quiet and he's had great luck with it. The Pulse was the launch-day MSRP model and I've heard mixed things from people. It seems to be their cheapest-made one and quality is hit or miss. A lot of the XFX ones seem way overpriced. If it were me, I'd look at ASRock, Sapphire Pure, and Powercolor, but I haven't looked at the Gigabyte ones real close. From the pictures, I kind of hate the finish on them, but that's less important to me than how they perform, price, and customer support, so I can't really give a full opinion there. The XFX Swift black and white had a really clean look to them that I liked, but after launch day their price has gone nuts. I have heard good things from folks who bought the Sapphire Nitro+ too, but those are also usually expensive.

I think you have a hell of a machine planned there. I'd just be careful with the smaller cases and your part selection because it's easy to think it'll all fit and then get in trouble once you try to build it.

 

[Why_Me]

CPU*	AMD Ryzen 7800X3D	$434.10
CPU Cooler	Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360	$171.01
Motherboard*	Asrock X870 Steel Legend	$394.63
RAM	Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2x16) 6000 MHz CL30	$157.85
Case	Lian Li O11 Vision Compact	$157.85
PSU*	Corsair RM1000e	$263.09
GPU*	Gainward RTX 5070 TI Phoenix	$1089.17
		Total: $26687.7

I am not in NA so prices are different around here. Links are not from a NA website so sorry about that but I put down the prices.

I have 2 NVMe SSDs I will be bringing over from my old PC so I won't buy storage FYI. I have a KC3000 and a random Sandisk NVMe.

I've got a LG 27GR83Q-B 1440p 240Hz. I basically play all types of games. I do competitive CS2 and Marvel Rivals. I play GOW Ragnarok, TLOU, RDR2. I play indie games.

CPU: First I wanted to get 9800X3D but since there is not a huge difference in performance but it's around $613 meaning $179 more than 7800X3D. I figured not to and also AMD is expected to release new CPUs for the AM5 platform there is a chance to upgrade.

Motherboard: I am not entirely sure about the motherboard. I would like fast USB speeds and I know PCIe 5.0 practically gives the same performance as 4.0 but maybe it's a little more future proof? So I could get another white decent looking motherboard I don't know what though.

PSU: I actually want to get Corsair RM1000x it was cheaper than 1000e and also I know it's better than 1000e. So currently I am waiting stock on that.

GPU: I'll either get the cheapest 5070 Ti or 9070 XT right now. Cheapest 9070 XT is around Sapphire RX 9070 XT Pulse = $947.19 Which one I should get?

However I am thinking about getting a 32" 4K OLED monitor later this year. Also since getting a 4K screen will be more demanding I am thinking about getting whatever the best price/performance GPU for me will be. Presumably RTX 50 SUPER series. Doubt my 5070 Ti or 9070 XT would lose much of value so financing the new GPU should be rather easy.

Case fans: Thermalright TL-C12W-S V3 ARGB I'll get 5 of these 2 exhaust and 3 at the bottom blowing upwards.

Other than the GPU I am targeting a white build.

What do you guys think? Is this the best approach for me?

This board gives you more PCIe lanes for your M.2 SSD's.

https://www.akakce.com/anakart/en-u...-wi-fi-amd-am5-ddr5-atx-fiyati,571741768.html
MSI X670E Gaming Plus Wi-Fi 11.489,70 TL

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/X670E-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI

 

[cinemaware]

The MB and PSU seem like an overkill, there are much cheaper options. Also cooler, unless you absolutely must have quiet one, though quite possibly your GPU (especially 9070XT) and case fans will override that anyway.

About GPU, I'm in similar position and totally unsure if to say a) hold on, the prices must go down in summer b) buy ASAP, the prices will only go up

If you choose b) then I'd go with 5070Ti if it's a 100USD difference, imo the added DLSS features and availability are worth it. But, then this is the cost of what I originally intended to pay for 5080 ....sigh

 

[Sunny and 75]

5070 Ti

 

[Chrispy_]

Go for the 9070XT unless you really really value raytracing or you want to also do work that requires CUDA.

I have both (Sapphire Pulse, MSI Ventus) and they're damn near identical in everything I've tried so far but the Radeon was so much cheaper than the Ventus. I think if the price difference is as low as it is for you, you should go with whichever driver/feature set you've had the best experience with so far. Nvidia's driver stack has been an absolute dumpster fire in the last 3 months and whilst I'm thankfully unaffected by missing ROPs or melting cables, I've not been spared hotfix after hotfix to the Geforce drivers and almost unusable framegen that crashed to desktop or blackscreens on the regular (those exact same driver crashes happen in the same circumstances on a completely different PC with a 4060Ti by the way, so I know it's drivers and not something about the system hardware/OS install).

Yes, RT performance is slightly better on the 5070Ti but it's only really obvious in path tracing and path tracing is still so ridiculously demanding that I can't even recommend it on a 5070Ti unless you want your $1000 purchase to render at 720p with noisy, boiling shadows, crawling lights and so many fake frames that the input lag makes you feel like you're playing on a hosted cloud PC like Geforce Now or something....

 

[Denver]

I would choose AMD because my blood is red. But buy the cheapest video card, both are very similar in performance, these prices are already horrible as they are...

Nvidia has no claim to being Premium, the drivers have proven to be a mess, not to mention the hardware issues. @-@

 

[Aken Bosch]

Hello in the first place.

Personal preference:

Motherboard - Asrock B850 Steel Legend WiFi

PSU - Seasonic Vertex GX ATX 3.1 850/1000W

RAM - G-Skill Trident Neo or some Kingston Beast / Renegade, I have a natural aversion to Corsair except some cases.

As for the rest, no comment except that with Arctic LF you have to know that the total size is 63 mm (38 the radiator, 25 the fans). Worst case scenario you should be able to mount it on the side panel as exhaust. I'm not sure however how would that look, taking into account that you chose an aquarium case, so...yeah.

 

[Chrispy_]

Motherboard - Asrock B850 Steel Legend WiFi

Currently there are 100 cases of Asrock boards destroying X3D processors.
As of right now, that's a reasonable excuse to avoid Asrock for a 7800X3D until they confirm the issue has been resolved.

 

[cinemaware]

Go for the 9070XT unless you really really value raytracing or you want to also do work that requires CUDA.

I have both (Sapphire Pulse, MSI Ventus) and they're damn near identical in everything I've tried so far but the Radeon was so much cheaper than the Ventus. I think if the price difference is as low as it is for you, you should go with whichever driver/feature set you've had the best experience with so far. Nvidia's driver stack has been an absolute dumpster fire in the last 3 months and whilst I'm thankfully unaffected by missing ROPs or melting cables, I've not been spared hotfix after hotfix to the Geforce drivers and almost unusable framegen that crashed to desktop or blackscreens on the regular (those exact same driver crashes happen in the same circumstances on a completely different PC with a 4060Ti by the way, so I know it's drivers and not something about the system hardware/OS install).

Yes, RT performance is slightly better on the 5070Ti but it's only really obvious in path tracing and path tracing is still so ridiculously demanding that I can't even recommend it on a 5070Ti unless you want your $1000 purchase to render at 720p with noisy, boiling shadows, crawling lights and so many fake frames that the input lag makes you feel like you're playing on a hosted cloud PC like Geforce Now or something....

I respect anybody's opinions but this sounds a bit too apocalyptic.

I suppose the driver thing is more of a blip than something serious. I had Nvidia cards for the last decade or so and never a problem with this angle.

About RT, I played CP2077 in 1440p with PT on my old 5600X + 4070 with FG enabled and it was a surprisingly good experience. Visually it was absolutely stunning, so whatever FG artefacts there might've been they were offset by PT. Lag was also not too bad. And I guess with 5070Ti it can only get much better, maybe even allowing for some foray into 4K with MFG. Also, more and more big games (Indy, AC:S) sport a meaningful RT so that's something to consider.

But much more important than RT is DLSS itself, which has been a) vastly improved b) is much, much more prevalent. Yeah, FSR is catching up but its game availability is much lower.

Another thing to consider about 9070 series is the temps and even if we allow that "this is fine", then there is the subsequent fan noise. Not fun, as I found out on my 9070XT (Gaming OC).

 

[Bobaganoosh]

Currently there are 100 cases of Asrock boards destroying X3D processors.
As of right now, that's a reasonable excuse to avoid Asrock for a 7800X3D until they confirm the issue has been resolved.

As far as I can tell, all of those cases are 9000 series CPUs, and while it is majority ASRock, other brands are involved too. I haven't seen any recent issues with 7800X3D (wasn't it mostly ASUS blowing those up before (but has been fixed)?)

 

[Aken Bosch]

Currently there are 100 cases of Asrock boards destroying X3D processors.
As of right now, that's a reasonable excuse to avoid Asrock for a 7800X3D until they confirm the issue has been resolved.

The recommendation was made strictly on price / performance on the same brand. I don't give a damn about some posts about exploding this or deforming that, I had my share of dead MB and CPU's , on that logic i would not buy any PC component. And 100 cases has hardly any meaning (compared to what sales ? 10k, 100k?). So far Asrock is the single brand that I would recommend (in EU, let's be clear) at this moment. RTFM usually works.

Just my 2c.

 

[Chrispy_]

As far as I can tell, all of those cases are 9000 series CPUs, and while it is majority ASRock, other brands are involved too. I haven't seen any recent issues with 7800X3D (wasn't it mostly ASUS blowing those up before (but has been fixed)?)

It's specifically Asrock 800-series boards. The issue is apparently voltage during memory training, before the system has even POSTed.
Whilst it's 9800X3Ds that are getting burned, that is the CPU of the day, and the most likely pairing with a brand new 2025 800-series board - especially since availability and supply of the 7800X3D are low by comparison, and the overwhelming majority of them are paired with 600-series boards.

I don't know if any CPUs other than the 9800X3D have been burned by Asrock 800-series boards, but both Zen4 and Zen5 share the same IO die and memory controller, so an issue during memory training would likely apply to 7000-series and 9000-series alike.

Presumably Asrock will identify the cause, fix it in firmware and release an official statement once the fixed firmware is available. That's what Asus did and cases of burned CPUs continued to pour in for a short while after ASUS fixed their BIOS because not everyone updates their BIOS or follows the tech news enough to realise there's a potential issue affecting their PC.

 

[Bobaganoosh]

It's specifically Asrock 800-series boards. The issue is apparently voltage during memory training, before the system has even POSTed.
Whilst it's 9800X3Ds that are getting burned, that is the CPU of the day, and the most likely pairing with a brand new 2025 800-series board - especially since availability and supply of the 7800X3D are low by comparison, and the overwhelming majority of them are paired with 600-series boards.

I don't know if any CPUs other than the 9800X3D have been burned by Asrock 800-series boards, but both Zen4 and Zen5 share the same IO die and memory controller, so an issue during memory training would likely apply to 7000-series and 9000-series alike.

Presumably Asrock will identify the cause, fix it in firmware and release an official statement once the fixed firmware is available. That's what Asus did and cases of burned CPUs continued to pour in for a short while after ASUS fixed their BIOS because not everyone updates their BIOS or follows the tech news enough to realise there's a potential issue affecting their PC.

There are also 16 reports from ASUS boards, 5 MSI, and a Gigabyte. Whatever they're doing, it seems ASRock is the largest offender, sure, but it's not isolated to them. Also, until AMD or other vendors actually fix something and it becomes public, I'm not sure we know who is at fault, the full impact, or what boards are "safe". There are tons of ASRock boards out there with 9000 series CPUs and ~93 failures. I'm betting new BIOSs are due all around AM5 boards, but I'm just saying right now for a 7800X3D build, I wouldn't panic lol.

 

[wolf]

GPU: I'll either get the cheapest 5070 Ti or 9070 XT right now. Cheapest 9070 XT is around Sapphire RX 9070 XT Pulse = $947.19 Which one I should get?

Try your best to find a better deal on the GPU, a 9070XT isn't worth $950 and neither is a 5070Ti TBH. Both are great cards, with the edge in performance (especially RT) and features going to the 5070Ti, so if prices are similar between the two and you can't get much of a better deal, the 5070Ti is the pick.

 

[Sunny and 75]

@OP. Take a look at the CP77 chart here.

At QHD, with the 9070 XT, you get 52 FPS on avg, however, the 5070 Ti provides the sweetspot 60 FPS. There's also 1% lows to consider, 60 FPS on avg roughly equals to 48 FPS 1% lows and that means the gameplay experience feels noticeably more smooth if you go the green path.

That's me though. Maybe you don't value RT performance as much as I do, in that case, the red path welcomes you with open arms.

Do NOT get me wrong, AMD is ON the right track regarding what they're doing in the RT area. They ARE getting there, however, they are NOT there, yet. I am absolutely SUPER excited for what their next-gen RDNA5 (or UDNA) brings to the market. RDNA4 is more of a preview. The BEST has yet to come.

 

[Chrispy_]

There are also 16 reports from ASUS boards, 5 MSI, and a Gigabyte. Whatever they're doing, it seems ASRock is the largest offender, sure, but it's not isolated to them. Also, until AMD or other vendors actually fix something and it becomes public, I'm not sure we know who is at fault, the full impact, or what boards are "safe". There are tons of ASRock boards out there with 9000 series CPUs and ~93 failures. I'm betting new BIOSs are due all around AM5 boards, but I'm just saying right now for a 7800X3D build, I wouldn't panic lol.

You're not wrong, but you also need to look as sales numbers:

In the motherboard market, Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, and ASRock are the dominant players. In 2024, they are expected to deliver 38.8 million motherboards, with Asus leading the way at 15 million, followed by Gigabyte (10.3 million), MSI (9.3 million), and ASRock (4.2 million)

So Asrock only have about an 11% share of the market, but are responsible for over 81% of the failures, meaning that if you scale the percentages by marketshare of the 115 failures so far, almost all of them are Asrock and the outliers from other brands are likely just the defective units that every brand has a small percentage of, regardless of this BIOS issue.

Don't get me wrong, I like Asrock boards and have used several over the years, but there is an issue here and your chances of killing your CPU with an 800-series Asrock board right now is orders of magnitude higher than with any other brand. Until fixed, they are on my "do not buy" list.

 

[Bobaganoosh]

In the motherboard market, Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, and ASRock are the dominant players. In 2024, they are expected to deliver 38.8 million motherboards, with Asus leading the way at 15 million, followed by Gigabyte (10.3 million), MSI (9.3 million), and ASRock (4.2 million)

Just curious, where did this info come from? I didn't know that was public information. I have been wondering if ASRock was selling more motherboards recently due to recent increases in popularity, especially compared to the downturn in ASUS quality control and reputation lately.

Edit: I did some searching and found references to a digitimes Asia report. Interesting. Not only is that more than I would have expected, but I'm curious (and couldn't find more information) on what the breakdown is between AM5, other chipsets, and even between 600, 800 series, etc. It's kind of funny because on one hand you'd say "well, 95 reports out of 4.2 million boards...." but the amount of those 4.2 million that are running 9000 series CPUs that just launched and in somewhat limited volumes comparatively, I'd be curious to know what those real numbers are. Also, the 7800X3D has been more readily available and for quite a competitive price whenever I've looked (since 9800X3D launch anyway), so I doubt they are so terribly rare out in the world that nobody would be reporting issues. A burned CPU tends to get headlines and people seem to go online with pictures.

All that said, I don't want to derail this topic with the side-subject, but I would expect that ASRock (and the others) are actively working on this issue and will produce another BIOS update soon and being all the current issues are with 9000 series CPUs, I would still just buy whatever motherboard met my requirements for features per price (and possibly aesthetics as some of these look ridiculous in my opinion lol) even if it was ASRock. If the OP was using 9800X3D (or any X3D), I'd likely wait to run the new system until another positive update comes out.

 

[Chrispy_]

Just curious, where did this info come from? I didn't know that was public information. I have been wondering if ASRock was selling more motherboards recently due to recent increases in popularity, especially compared to the downturn in ASUS quality control and reputation lately.

The first non-AI Google result.
source was marketdataforecast.com but if you search for that exact quote you'll see it was picked up by several major news sites (THG, Techspot, Digitimes, WCCFTech, PC Gamer)

Even if, hypothetically, ASUS' bad behaviour had caused them to lose an unprecedented HALF of their customers, it's unreasonable to assume that Asrock would get anything more than their existing marketshare proportion of those defecting customers. 80% of those 7.5 million sales would go to Gigabyte and MSI.