790GX on the Egg

[Damian^]

true im just in it as an enthusiats and want to reach CPU limits for the fun of it i might try a cheap phenom x3. i dont maybe i just have a bad board but iv tried overclocked my 5200 from 2.6GHz and it capped out at 2.8GHz maybe my rams holding me back but i cant overclock that either since its DDR2 800 limit on the board.

 

[Kei]

You can still overclock the ram itself, how high were you able to take the ram? I believe the highest I was able to hit was just shy of 500Mhz but I can't find any screenshots of that. I know I hit 423Mhz using DDR2 667 ram though which is a nice jump.

Have you tried using different multipliers instead of just the stock one...how high can you go up on the bus speed? Like I said I could go as high as 306Mhz without tweaking...but every board and processor are different.

K

 

[nanohead]

true im just in it as an enthusiats and want to reach CPU limits for the fun of it i might try a cheap phenom x3. i dont maybe i just have a bad board but iv tried overclocked my 5200 from 2.6GHz and it capped out at 2.8GHz maybe my rams holding me back but i cant overclock that either since its DDR2 800 limit on the board.

I did that.... Got a cheap 8650 ($100 on fleabay) and wound it up to 2.7 and use it as a daily processor. I can get 2.8 out of it, but its on a Gigabyte MA78-S2H and there's not that much control. I'm gonna get the DFI 790GX mATX board I think and see if I can get 3Ghz out of the sucker (I was using a BE 5000 @ 3.2 and got spoiled, the extra speed was better than the extra core actually).

 

[Kei]

Hey Nana, make sure you find out about the bios before buying a new board or you may end up getting the samething as last time. You might have a great board but no bios to fully utilize it, more than likely that was the reason you were unhappy with your last setup. Also your Phenom may not have been properly setup because with 2.8Ghz vs. the 3.2Ghz 5000BE that's a really really close match in speed depending on what program (and especially if you ram was set to unganged instead of ganged) that Phenom was likely just as fast if not faster. But there are things you have to have set differently on the Phenom to get the full speed.

Either way make sure you check the bios on the new board first

K

 

[nanohead]

Hey Nana, make sure you find out about the bios before buying a new board or you may end up getting the samething as last time. You might have a great board but no bios to fully utilize it, more than likely that was the reason you were unhappy with your last setup. Also your Phenom may not have been properly setup because with 2.8Ghz vs. the 3.2Ghz 5000BE that's a really really close match in speed depending on what program (and especially if you ram was set to unganged instead of ganged) that Phenom was likely just as fast if not faster. But there are things you have to have set differently on the Phenom to get the full speed.

Either way make sure you check the bios on the new board first

K

Thanks Kei. I've learned more from reading your posts than just about any other place , you are the font of knowledge on Phenom stuff. The DFI Lanparty BIOS is absurdly detailed, so thats why I'm gonna move my regular desktop. I run a DFI 790FX on my gamer with a 9850 and get good results from that. The Gigabyte 780G mobos are semi enthusiast boards (if there is such a thing), so BIOS is limited to the basics for decent OC work, but not as detailed as a high end board. It was perfect for the BE 5000 because all I needed was a multi and some CPU volts and all was good. I use that machine as my daily machine and do some video stuff and audio stuff for my kids and wife, as well as lots of work and daily tasks.

I've found it interesting that ganged produces much higher memory performance than unganged... I guess its the parallelism that does it. On the X3 system, I oc some A-data ddr2-800 to 940 and it gets really good results ganged. Much better than the 9850 based machine with 1066 Reapers running unganged.

 

[wolf2009]

Its funny how the highest end mobo on Intel side is double that on AMD side .

You can build a really cheap machine with AMD .

 

[ShadowFold]

Its funny how the highest end mobo on Intel side is double that on AMD side .

You can build a really cheap machine with AMD .

Its also funny(and sad) that a 120$ Intel cpu can kill AMD's highest end chip

 

[Kei]

In what?

 

[wolf2009]

Its also funny(and sad) that a 120$ Intel cpu can kill AMD's highest end chip

Well not in encoding .

If you want to build a really cheap machine for wife or kids for browsing and Office application, I believe AMD is the way to go .

 

[Kei]

I believe if he takes a look back at the reviews for the two chips in question (E7200 and 9950BE) he'll change that statement rather quickly. Indeed the Intel Quad's are faster in most things and even the nasty E8400/8500 is quicker in some things, but the E7200 does not in anyway kill the 9950BE.

C'mon Shadow I know you know better than that.

K

 

[nanohead]

I believe if he takes a look back at the reviews for the two chips in question (E7200 and 9950BE) he'll change that statement rather quickly. Indeed the Intel Quad's are faster in most things and even the nasty E8400/8500 is quicker in some things, but the E7200 does not in anyway kill the 9950BE.

C'mon Shadow I know you know better than that.

K

Yeah, the problem is all of us knucklheads allow our frame of reference to become oriented around overclocking ability instead of actual real world performance. I'm trying to retrain my brain that stuff like 3dmark is interesting, but of no material impact to anyone or anything

 

[Hayder_Master]

You can still overclock the ram itself, how high were you able to take the ram? I believe the highest I was able to hit was just shy of 500Mhz but I can't find any screenshots of that. I know I hit 423Mhz using DDR2 667 ram though which is a nice jump.

Have you tried using different multipliers instead of just the stock one...how high can you go up on the bus speed? Like I said I could go as high as 306Mhz without tweaking...but every board and processor are different.

K

nice overclock