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A system for Sims, WoW, LoL, etc.

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I am super bored today, and my sister and her boyfriend mentioned wanting a computer for Sims 3 and 4, WoW, LoL, and other MMO's. No AAA titles like BF4 or anything. I put together 2 systems on Newegg, which price within $10 of each other. For these particular titles, which one would you choose.

Option 1:

AMD FX6300
G. Skill Ripjaw X 4GB 1600
AMD 970 MSI Gaming board
Corsair CX500M
R7 265 GPU
Western Digital Blue 1TB hard drive
NZXT Source 210

Cost: $561.82

Option 2:

Core i3 4160
Gigabyte H81 DS3H
G. Skill Ripjaw X 4GB 1600
Corsair CX500
Zotac GTX660
Western Digital Blue 1TB hard drive
Cooler Master N200

Cost: $559.92
 

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Option two will give greater CPU power while keeping the power usage down. The GTX660 is amazing though I'd go for the MSI TF 660 OC because I can personally say that it's a solid card.
 
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MMOs are generally need better CPU than GPU.
 

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For the games to be played on that rig, LoL, WoW, etc., what about a AMD FM2+ APU build? An APU rig could bring the price down at least a hundred dollars or more.
 

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For the games to be played on that rig, LoL, WoW, etc., what about a AMD FM2+ APU build? An APU rig could bring the price down at least a hundred dollars or more.
APUs don't have the CPU performance that the i3 can bring, nor can it keep up with something like the 660. While costing less, it also costs performance.
 
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You would have to be crazy to go with FX at this point in the game
 
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No AAA titles like BF4 or anything
Well the first system is similar to mine so it can definitely play AAA titles. BF4 @30-35 fps on ultra.
But if I remember correctly Wow benefits from a better single core performance so I'd go with the i3 but as GLD suggested an APU would make more sense depending on the resolution they will play on.

Why didn't you use the same case for both builds?
 
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definitly i3+gtx

if u want to save up some money you can go for pentium + GTX
 

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Why not a Intel G3258? Just strap a Corsair H60 or H75 to it and push that sunnovabitch
 

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option 2 and maybe upgrade CPU when funds allow, to an i5 :D
 
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option 1 because is more "futureproof" and when oc'ed will be much faster than already is. the i3 may have better single t perf but its 2 vs 6 cores.. simple math. an apu solution would be optimal for this kind of games though and much cheeper.
 
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option 1 because is more "futureproof" and when oc'ed will be much faster than already is. the i3 may have better single t perf but its 2 vs 6 cores.. simple math. an apu solution would be optimal for this kind of games though and much cheeper.
that's what people said with the phenom x4 and x6...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-15.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/league-of-legends-performance-benchmark,3484-8.html

for the games he plays, the i3 would be the best. the AMD FX-6300 is a 3 module which has 2 integer cores and a shared floating point core. single thread performance is not event faster than a dual-core pentium.. the i3 has 2 core + hyper-threading. the Haswell i3 are far better than ivy-bridge i3 too.. remember that
 
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that's what people said with the phenom x4 and x6...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-15.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/league-of-legends-performance-benchmark,3484-8.html

for the games he plays, the i3 would be the best. the AMD FX-6300 is a 3 module which has 2 integer cores and a shared floating point core. single thread performance is not event faster than a dual-core pentium.. the i3 has 2 core + hyper-threading. the Haswell i3 are far better than ivy-bridge i3 too.. remember that
"Seeing that a dual-core Athlon II X2 260 manages to stay above 90 FPS at all times, it's a safe bet that LoL players don't have much to worry about as far as processor-based limitations are concerned. Any dual-core CPU above 2 GHz is probably a safe bet for smooth frame rates." thats from the second page you shared. also the i3s are just pentiums with HT better gpu and larger cache so its natural for them to have better single t perf, but you already knew that, so whats your point? i already said that single t perf is better. as a cpu though the FX is marginaly better and if oc'ed is alot faster. that gives you more options on what the system can handle. imo the FX is the better choice given the budget. its his wallet though so ultimately its his choice, i just offered my opinion.
 

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"Seeing that a dual-core Athlon II X2 260 manages to stay above 90 FPS at all times, it's a safe bet that LoL players don't have much to worry about as far as processor-based limitations are concerned. Any dual-core CPU above 2 GHz is probably a safe bet for smooth frame rates." thats from the second page you shared. also the i3s are just pentiums with HT better gpu and larger cache so its natural for them to have better single t perf, but you already knew that, so whats your point? i already said that single t perf is better. as a cpu though the FX is marginaly better and if oc'ed is alot faster. that gives you more options on what the system can handle. imo the FX is the better choice given the budget. its his wallet though so ultimately its his choice, i just offered my opinion.
I don't have interest overclocking a system that is not mine nor did I spend the money on the hardware encase something goes wrong I don't want to be liable for it.

option 1 because is more "futureproof" and when oc'ed will be much faster than already is. the i3 may have better single t perf but its 2 vs 6 cores.. simple math. an apu solution would be optimal for this kind of games though and much cheeper.
I dont know, I looked at benchmarks and the best APU is a bit meh at 1080p in these games.
 
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"Seeing that a dual-core Athlon II X2 260 manages to stay above 90 FPS at all times, it's a safe bet that LoL players don't have much to worry about as far as processor-based limitations are concerned. Any dual-core CPU above 2 GHz is probably a safe bet for smooth frame rates." thats from the second page you shared. also the i3s are just pentiums with HT better gpu and larger cache so its natural for them to have better single t perf, but you already knew that, so whats your point? i already said that single t perf is better. as a cpu though the FX is marginaly better and if oc'ed is alot faster. that gives you more options on what the system can handle. imo the FX is the better choice given the budget. its his wallet though so ultimately its his choice, i just offered my opinion.
so I did the same? Talking about future, we all did that since a couple years ago, and an i3 is still quite fast... Benchmark are benchmark but real life production is another thing. Saying that FX is more futureproof, well we did that for amd Phenom, Intel Q****.. and they still use to something but architecture make the difference too... as for i3 vs fx, one will be better in a case, the other will be better at something else.

IMO, the i3 is a better choice as you can upgrade over the future too.. Just taking consideration that buy a used 4670 or 4790 in one or 2 year will make the system a better choice instead of the AMD FX. We don't really know what's coming after vishera and if AM3+ will change to something else. What we can take as a consideration, is having a better LGA1150 board and can be upgrade to broadwell.

Upgrading later the FX 6300 for a 8350 vs upgrading the i3 to an i7, the intel choice is a better.

Anyway
 
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Forget about option 1. it`s dead end.. had the Fx 6300 running at 4.4ghz go intel you wont regret it
Got the i5 4690k now, it can run rings around the Fx 6300 running at same 4.4ghz
 
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#2 seems like a decent enough pick of the choices because based on the game choices you do not need an extreme amount of CPU power either way but an Intel choice could be king in this situation (The i3 would be fine for a budget option). But based on your choices I thought I would make an alternative solution as a suggestion based on some things I have seen on sale today while browsing to build a friend a gaming rig:

i3 4360 & Corsair Vengeance 8gb DDR3 1600 bundle
$211
WD Blue 1tb 7200RPM drive
$52
CoolerMaster N200
$49
Rosewill ARC 550watt (on sale and decent priced for what your getting)
$44
PowerColor R9 270 TurboDuo
$149
Asrock H97M Pro4
$69
Total = ~$579.93

You can cut come things back but for the money its going to do all that and a bag of chips with these sales going on now. Just thought I would point you at some of these deals if its interests or helps otherwise I agree with the others on the choice of the i3 in this case and the other components.
 

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I am super bored today, and my sister and her boyfriend mentioned wanting a computer for Sims 3 and 4, WoW, LoL, and other MMO's. No AAA titles like BF4 or anything. I put together 2 systems on Newegg, which price within $10 of each other. For these particular titles, which one would you choose.

Option 1:

AMD FX6300
G. Skill Ripjaw X 4GB 1600
AMD 970 MSI Gaming board
Corsair CX500M
R7 265 GPU
Western Digital Blue 1TB hard drive
NZXT Source 210

Cost: $561.82

Option 2:

Core i3 4160
Gigabyte H81 DS3H
G. Skill Ripjaw X 4GB 1600
Corsair CX500
Zotac GTX660
Western Digital Blue 1TB hard drive
Cooler Master N200

Cost: $559.92
I think the intel rig is the better choice. I like AMD but I would go with an APU the issue being the upgrade path is pretty dead so I suggest the following because everyone seems to be going up in proce.

I5 4460
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117302


MSI H81M (use these at work decent boards)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130752


Team 8GB kit (2x4) 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313080

EVGA 500B
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438012

R7 260
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127780

WD 1TB blue
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339

Rosewill FBM (I have one their not terrible I run a server in it)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147167

$527 and you can play with the CPU if you really need too.
 
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IMO both options are not ideal. Try the Athlon X4 860K. For these games, a GTX 750 will be sufficient.
 

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IMO both options are not ideal. Try the Athlon X4 860K. For these games, a GTX 750 will be sufficient.
The Athlons don't bring enough power! Why do so few understand this? AMD is better for a seriously tight budget while MMOs run best on Intels. I've personally tested this and it's true.

OP stay with the Intel route and if you can bump to an i5, then go for it. An i3 is also a very good choice.
 
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I dont know, I looked at benchmarks and the best APU is a bit meh at 1080p in these games.[/QUOTE]

maybe so, but coupled with a very cheap r7 250 would go a long way performance wise :) also if this build is for a person that its not very into tinkering with his/her rig dont overthink it imo, just build a decent cheap rig, it will do the job ;) since this is a rig on a budget get the best bang for the buck part, imo its AMD but opinions..

 
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