• We've upgraded our forums. Please post any issues/requests in this thread.

A10-5800K Cracks 7.30 GHz in Overclocking Feat

Joined
Sep 23, 2008
Messages
204 (0.06/day)
Likes
44
Location
Richmond,VA
Processor FX8350 @ 4.6ghz
Motherboard MSI 990FX-GD80 v2
Cooling Hyper 212 evo
Memory 16gb G.Skill 1866 8-9-9-24
Video Card(s) Sapphire Radeon 7950
Storage Samsung 512GB 850 Pro SSD ; 3 x 1TB Seagate Drives Standalone
Display(s) Twin Dell E2215H
Case Rosewill Blackhawk Ultra
Power Supply Seasonic 850X Full Modular
Software Windows 10 Pro 64bit
#26
Not exactly an upgrade to move from QX9770 to A10-5800K, is it ? Unless of course you left your poor brother with HD5550 or a simialr graphics card ;)

The purchase makes sense for somebody who doesn't have a computer already or who has something completely obsolete (Pentium4 or something like that) but you'll be spending $300 to get exactly same level of performance ...
QX9770 is almost 4 generations old...its not even used on benchmarks anymore..It was considered fast then, but not anymore.
 
Joined
May 22, 2010
Messages
2,516 (0.91/day)
Likes
680
Location
Canada
System Name m1dg3t | DeathBox | HairPi 3
Processor 3570k @ 4.0 1.15v BIOS | q9550 @ 3.77 1.325v BIOS
Motherboard Asrock z77e iTX | p5q Dlx 2301 BIOS
Cooling Custom Water | D-14 & HR-03gt | Passive HSF
Memory Samsung MV-3V4G3D 4g x 2 @ 1866 1.35v | OcZ RpR 2g x 4 @ 1067 2.2v
Video Card(s) MSi 7950 tf3 @1000 / 1350 | Asus 5870 V2 @ 900 / 1275
Storage Adata sx900 256Gb / WD 2500 HHTZ | WD 1001 FALS x 2
Display(s) BenQ gw2750hm | 46" Sharp Quatron
Case BitFenix Prodigy - m0dd3d | Antec Fusion Remote MAX
Audio Device(s) Onboard Toslink > Yamaha HTR 6290 | Xonar HDAV1.3 > Yamaha DSP z7
Power Supply Ocz mXp700w | Ocz zx850w | Cannakit 5v 2.5a
Mouse Logitech G700s | Logitech G9x - Cable Repaired
Keyboard TT Meka G1 - Black w Cherry Blacks| Logitech G11
Software Win7 Home | Xp sp3 & Vista ultimate | Raspbian
Benchmark Scores Epeen!! Who needs epeen??
#27
Good job AMD!
 
Joined
Apr 7, 2011
Messages
1,154 (0.47/day)
Likes
466
System Name Desktop
Processor Intel i7-3930k
Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth X79
Cooling Intel AIO
Memory 8x4GB 1866MHz
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 970 SC
Storage Adaptec 2405 SAS controller> Hitachi SAS 15k 450GB|2xSeagate 2TB|WD Black 4 TB|HP Ultrium 1760 LTO4
Display(s) HP ZR24w
Case Fractal Define XL Black
Audio Device(s) Schiit Modi Uber>Schiit Asgard 2>Sennheiser HD600
Power Supply Corsair HX850
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Logitech G613
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
#28
Joined
Sep 23, 2008
Messages
204 (0.06/day)
Likes
44
Location
Richmond,VA
Processor FX8350 @ 4.6ghz
Motherboard MSI 990FX-GD80 v2
Cooling Hyper 212 evo
Memory 16gb G.Skill 1866 8-9-9-24
Video Card(s) Sapphire Radeon 7950
Storage Samsung 512GB 850 Pro SSD ; 3 x 1TB Seagate Drives Standalone
Display(s) Twin Dell E2215H
Case Rosewill Blackhawk Ultra
Power Supply Seasonic 850X Full Modular
Software Windows 10 Pro 64bit
#29
Joined
Apr 7, 2011
Messages
1,154 (0.47/day)
Likes
466
System Name Desktop
Processor Intel i7-3930k
Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth X79
Cooling Intel AIO
Memory 8x4GB 1866MHz
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 970 SC
Storage Adaptec 2405 SAS controller> Hitachi SAS 15k 450GB|2xSeagate 2TB|WD Black 4 TB|HP Ultrium 1760 LTO4
Display(s) HP ZR24w
Case Fractal Define XL Black
Audio Device(s) Schiit Modi Uber>Schiit Asgard 2>Sennheiser HD600
Power Supply Corsair HX850
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Logitech G613
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
#30
Wow, thanks for this man...glad I hadn't purchased anything yet.
Seeing your CPU runs at 4.3GHz, an A10 would probably need around 5.1GHz to even match it.
Until AMD dramatically improves IPC (or increase the stock clocks even more but with same/lower power consumption) they can't even compete with their own Phenom II which is bad for all of us in the end.
 

cdawall

where the hell are my stars
Joined
Jul 23, 2006
Messages
26,553 (6.38/day)
Likes
7,458
Location
Houston
System Name Team Blue
Processor 5960X@4.8 1.42v
Motherboard Asus X99M-WS
Cooling EK Supremecy EVO, MCR220-Stack+MCR220+MCR320, D5-PWM+EK X-RES 140
Memory 4x8GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200 CL16
Video Card(s) (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's+ EVGA reference 1080Ti soon to be under water
Storage Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s) Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case Caselabs Mercury S5
Audio Device(s) Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse Thermaltake Theron
Keyboard Thermaltake Poseidon ZX
Software W10P
Benchmark Scores Zoom zoom mofo
#31
Seeing your CPU runs at 4.3GHz, an A10 would probably need around 5.1GHz to even match it.
Until AMD dramatically improves IPC (or increase the stock clocks even more but with same/lower power consumption) they can't even compete with their own Phenom II which is bad for all of us in the end.
You do understand the entire reasoning behind moving away from a monolithic core right?
 
Joined
Apr 7, 2011
Messages
1,154 (0.47/day)
Likes
466
System Name Desktop
Processor Intel i7-3930k
Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth X79
Cooling Intel AIO
Memory 8x4GB 1866MHz
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 970 SC
Storage Adaptec 2405 SAS controller> Hitachi SAS 15k 450GB|2xSeagate 2TB|WD Black 4 TB|HP Ultrium 1760 LTO4
Display(s) HP ZR24w
Case Fractal Define XL Black
Audio Device(s) Schiit Modi Uber>Schiit Asgard 2>Sennheiser HD600
Power Supply Corsair HX850
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Logitech G613
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
#32
You do understand the entire reasoning behind moving away from a monolithic core right?
Yes, and I even understand that there was nothing to improve about Phenom II (which is basically an improved K8). That is evident from Llano's CPU (32nm) side which gained almost nothing compared to Phenom II (45nm). A new design offers room for improvements.
It doesn't take away the fact that something went horribly wrong, and only time will tell if they are able to improve it (Steamroller/Excavator). Don't expect much from Piledriver since it doesn't include drastic changes in the design itself (like it's planned for Steamroller).
 
Joined
Sep 23, 2008
Messages
204 (0.06/day)
Likes
44
Location
Richmond,VA
Processor FX8350 @ 4.6ghz
Motherboard MSI 990FX-GD80 v2
Cooling Hyper 212 evo
Memory 16gb G.Skill 1866 8-9-9-24
Video Card(s) Sapphire Radeon 7950
Storage Samsung 512GB 850 Pro SSD ; 3 x 1TB Seagate Drives Standalone
Display(s) Twin Dell E2215H
Case Rosewill Blackhawk Ultra
Power Supply Seasonic 850X Full Modular
Software Windows 10 Pro 64bit
#33
You do understand the entire reasoning behind moving away from a monolithic core right?
My main goal is to get off the ddr2/775 setup. After what I've seen I guess i'll wait for the FX-6300. Ideally I'd like to move to a 6 core setup. Its going to be AMD whatever I choose, I just can't justify Intel's pricing anymore, that and Im interested in seeing what and AMD platform can do, its been years since I've ran AMD.
 

cdawall

where the hell are my stars
Joined
Jul 23, 2006
Messages
26,553 (6.38/day)
Likes
7,458
Location
Houston
System Name Team Blue
Processor 5960X@4.8 1.42v
Motherboard Asus X99M-WS
Cooling EK Supremecy EVO, MCR220-Stack+MCR220+MCR320, D5-PWM+EK X-RES 140
Memory 4x8GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200 CL16
Video Card(s) (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's+ EVGA reference 1080Ti soon to be under water
Storage Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s) Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case Caselabs Mercury S5
Audio Device(s) Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse Thermaltake Theron
Keyboard Thermaltake Poseidon ZX
Software W10P
Benchmark Scores Zoom zoom mofo
#34
Yes, and I even understand that there was nothing to improve about Phenom II (which is basically an improved K8). That is evident from Llano's CPU (32nm) side which gained almost nothing compared to Phenom II (45nm). A new design offers room for improvements.
It doesn't take away the fact that something went horribly wrong, and only time will tell if they are able to improve it (Steamroller/Excavator). Don't expect much from Piledriver since it doesn't include drastic changes in the design itself (like it's planned for Steamroller).
The cores are completely and utterly different in design vs phenom II. In applications that take advantage of the new core structure we have seen massive improvements in performance. Llano is a modified Athlon II that for the most part outperformed Phenom II even though it lacked an L3 cache. The new Piledriver based units we see now in mobile and desktop PC's has almost zero related to Llano and from the looks of it very little in common with Piledriver minus the core hierarchy. The addition of the GPU core is quite a change up and the physical usage of resources is 100% different.

It's a good thing you understand the entire concept so well :slap:

My main goal is to get off the ddr2/775 setup. After what I've seen I guess i'll wait for the FX-6300. Ideally I'd like to move to a 6 core setup. Its going to be AMD whatever I choose, I just can't justify Intel's pricing anymore, that and Im interested in seeing what and AMD platform can do, its been years since I've ran AMD.
Honestly stock for stock the A10 would perform better but with both overclocked in single IPC the 775 setup will win. With proper coding and usage of AVX coding the AMD will win. It's a sideways move for you to go with an APU. The new piledriver based chips are a slightly different story in theory...
 

trickson

OH, I have such a headache
Joined
Dec 5, 2004
Messages
6,486 (1.36/day)
Likes
927
Location
Planet Earth.
Processor Q9650
Motherboard Gigabyte.
Cooling air.
Memory 4gb kingston
Video Card(s) hd 5870
Software win7 64 bit
#35
Yes, OK, I get that it is cool that we have pushed silicon this far - but am I the only one who just does not care anymore about bu11$h!t overclocking feats that are accomplished under completely unsustainable and downright ridiculous conditions, that could not possibly be used outside of an overclocking contest and bear no fruit for any other application what so ever?

Again I get it - woo! something functionally useless ran really fast for a very short time in an utterly unsustainable environment, and does not in any way represent how the equipment will or ever even COULD actually perform in the real world.

Like land speed testing a rocket car - yay it went fast - it's still completely useless...

...Unless one day the key to stopping the alien invasion is moving a rely small object across a Nevada salt flat in 20 seconds...
Now this is just the plain truth. Big Deal can it play crysis! Useless! More FLUFF from AMD.
 
Joined
Apr 7, 2011
Messages
1,154 (0.47/day)
Likes
466
System Name Desktop
Processor Intel i7-3930k
Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth X79
Cooling Intel AIO
Memory 8x4GB 1866MHz
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 970 SC
Storage Adaptec 2405 SAS controller> Hitachi SAS 15k 450GB|2xSeagate 2TB|WD Black 4 TB|HP Ultrium 1760 LTO4
Display(s) HP ZR24w
Case Fractal Define XL Black
Audio Device(s) Schiit Modi Uber>Schiit Asgard 2>Sennheiser HD600
Power Supply Corsair HX850
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Logitech G613
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
#36
The cores are completely and utterly different in design vs phenom II. In applications that take advantage of the new core structure we have seen massive improvements in performance. Llano is a modified Athlon II that for the most part outperformed Phenom II even though it lacked an L3 cache.
Never said that Phenom II was the same as BD/PD :confused: (lot's of people wanted a 32nm Phenom II) so I pointed out that there is no use and a new design is the way to go (even if it cannot deliver for the first time) however if they don't manage to improve it then it's another thing.

But is that advantage only due to new instructions? Besides, I don't see that many applications that can use AVX right now (AVX2 should be more widely supported), you need to have a plan for the future but design for the present.
Example: I do a lot of rendering on my PC, and looking at what AMD has to offer I have no choice but to push on with my Thuban (4 module BD is a little better in rendering but at the expense of power consumption which is high as it is anyway).
But if a run an analysis for airflow or similar, some of those parts are running on one core and I know that is the weak spot for the new design, so why would I pay 250€+ for a new CPU and MB that runs slower - so like I said it's not ready and needs many improvements.

Llano does not outperform a Phenom II (in total (IPC+clock)). And AFAIK overclocking Llano isn't that good as overclocking a Phenom II.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/81?vs=399

You can see the IPC increse in Llano but when you put an x4 980BE against it the clock destroys it.

The new Piledriver based units we see now in mobile and desktop PC's has almost zero related to Llano and from the looks of it very little in common with Piledriver minus the core hierarchy. The addition of the GPU core is quite a change up and the physical usage of resources is 100% different.
Again, I never said it's the same and I understand the whole modules concept which enables easier scaling and adding components (like a GPU).
I see Llano as a test of the APU design, and future versions will only get better (GCN GPU, SR cores and shrink to 28nm...).

It's a good thing you understand the entire concept so well
I don't quite get what you were trying to say with this line, but we are only discussing here and AFAIK I didn't say anything wrong in my post.
 

cdawall

where the hell are my stars
Joined
Jul 23, 2006
Messages
26,553 (6.38/day)
Likes
7,458
Location
Houston
System Name Team Blue
Processor 5960X@4.8 1.42v
Motherboard Asus X99M-WS
Cooling EK Supremecy EVO, MCR220-Stack+MCR220+MCR320, D5-PWM+EK X-RES 140
Memory 4x8GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200 CL16
Video Card(s) (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's+ EVGA reference 1080Ti soon to be under water
Storage Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s) Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case Caselabs Mercury S5
Audio Device(s) Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse Thermaltake Theron
Keyboard Thermaltake Poseidon ZX
Software W10P
Benchmark Scores Zoom zoom mofo
#37
People who need and use avx have access wide spread support doesn't make a difference fact is it is there and works well.

As for llano it performs better clocker clock while lacking an l3 it's a huge overall departure from phenom.

Your original argument was bulldozer sucked. It doesn't it needs proper usage of its design to work. They are already getting looked at for the server market it works better than Intel's offerings in certain server apps thanks to the design.
 
Joined
Apr 7, 2011
Messages
1,154 (0.47/day)
Likes
466
System Name Desktop
Processor Intel i7-3930k
Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth X79
Cooling Intel AIO
Memory 8x4GB 1866MHz
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 970 SC
Storage Adaptec 2405 SAS controller> Hitachi SAS 15k 450GB|2xSeagate 2TB|WD Black 4 TB|HP Ultrium 1760 LTO4
Display(s) HP ZR24w
Case Fractal Define XL Black
Audio Device(s) Schiit Modi Uber>Schiit Asgard 2>Sennheiser HD600
Power Supply Corsair HX850
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Logitech G613
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
#38
Your original argument was bulldozer sucked. It doesn't it needs proper usage of its design to work. They are already getting looked at for the server market it works better than Intel's offerings in certain server apps thanks to the design.
Not really no, I stated they have a hard time competing with their own design (Phenom II) which is a fact. I'm not ignoring another fact which is that it does have a better IMC, more instructions and offers a fresh design to build upon.
But when I buy a new CPU I would expect it do be better in pretty much everything (at least on par with the old one in some things) and not sacrifice one workload to get a bit more performance in other.
Would you call a new car (with same HP) that does less km/l than the previous model a success? I wouldn't.

For server purposes BD does indeed have some sweet spots I just hope that PD lowers power consumption which is a critical factor in most servers (apart from high performance servers where you need as much performance as you can buy).

IMO if they managed to get stock clocks to 4.5/4.6GHz with same TDP it would be a great CPU. But a question arises here: what exactly is holding the clocks down, is it the silicon itself, design, or the manufacturing process itself.
 
Joined
Feb 26, 2008
Messages
4,870 (1.36/day)
Likes
681
Location
Joplin, Mo
System Name Ultrabeast GX2
Processor Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 4.0GHZ 24/7
Motherboard Gigabit P35-DS3L
Cooling Rosewill RX24, Dual Slot Vid, Fan control
Memory 2x1gb 1066mhz@850MHZ DDR2
Video Card(s) 9800GX2 @ 690/1040
Storage 750/250/250/200 all WD 7200
Display(s) 24" DCLCD 2ms 1200p
Case Apevia
Audio Device(s) 7.1 Digital on-board, 5.1 digital hooked up
Power Supply 700W RAIDMAXXX SLI
Software winXP Pro
Benchmark Scores 17749 3DM06
#40
Not really no, I stated they have a hard time competing with their own design (Phenom II) which is a fact. I'm not ignoring another fact which is that it does have a better IMC, more instructions and offers a fresh design to build upon.
But when I buy a new CPU I would expect it do be better in pretty much everything (at least on par with the old one in some things) and not sacrifice one workload to get a bit more performance in other.
Would you call a new car (with same HP) that does less km/l than the previous model a success? I wouldn't.

For server purposes BD does indeed have some sweet spots I just hope that PD lowers power consumption which is a critical factor in most servers (apart from high performance servers where you need as much performance as you can buy).

IMO if they managed to get stock clocks to 4.5/4.6GHz with same TDP it would be a great CPU. But a question arises here: what exactly is holding the clocks down, is it the silicon itself, design, or the manufacturing process itself.
Your argument is flawed. It would be like better luxury features but less km/l, or faster but less km/l.
 
Joined
Apr 7, 2011
Messages
1,154 (0.47/day)
Likes
466
System Name Desktop
Processor Intel i7-3930k
Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth X79
Cooling Intel AIO
Memory 8x4GB 1866MHz
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 970 SC
Storage Adaptec 2405 SAS controller> Hitachi SAS 15k 450GB|2xSeagate 2TB|WD Black 4 TB|HP Ultrium 1760 LTO4
Display(s) HP ZR24w
Case Fractal Define XL Black
Audio Device(s) Schiit Modi Uber>Schiit Asgard 2>Sennheiser HD600
Power Supply Corsair HX850
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Logitech G613
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
#41
Your argument is flawed. It would be like better luxury features but less km/l, or faster but less km/l.
Yeah, I realized that later that I should have included some good points as well so I stand corrected ;):)
 

cdawall

where the hell are my stars
Joined
Jul 23, 2006
Messages
26,553 (6.38/day)
Likes
7,458
Location
Houston
System Name Team Blue
Processor 5960X@4.8 1.42v
Motherboard Asus X99M-WS
Cooling EK Supremecy EVO, MCR220-Stack+MCR220+MCR320, D5-PWM+EK X-RES 140
Memory 4x8GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200 CL16
Video Card(s) (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's+ EVGA reference 1080Ti soon to be under water
Storage Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s) Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case Caselabs Mercury S5
Audio Device(s) Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse Thermaltake Theron
Keyboard Thermaltake Poseidon ZX
Software W10P
Benchmark Scores Zoom zoom mofo
#42
Pentium 4 was still hyped when it couldn't outperform p3 in any aspects...bulldozer shares some of that nonsense. I see monolithic core as a thing of the past this time a mere stepping stone.
 

trickson

OH, I have such a headache
Joined
Dec 5, 2004
Messages
6,486 (1.36/day)
Likes
927
Location
Planet Earth.
Processor Q9650
Motherboard Gigabyte.
Cooling air.
Memory 4gb kingston
Video Card(s) hd 5870
Software win7 64 bit
#43
Pentium 4 was still hyped when it couldn't outperform p3 in any aspects...bulldozer shares some of that nonsense. I see monolithic core as a thing of the past this time a mere stepping stone.
No the P4 was a good replacement for the P3. The Athlon CP's were better.
This is not about what CPU is better though. This is about an oc that is while cool still has no meaning at all in real time applications.
 

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
19,194 (5.03/day)
Likes
4,798
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
#44
No the P4 was a good replacement for the P3. The Athlon CP's were better.
This is not about what CPU is better though. This is about an oc that is while cool still has no meaning at all in real time applications.
clock for clock the P3 beat the P4
 

cdawall

where the hell are my stars
Joined
Jul 23, 2006
Messages
26,553 (6.38/day)
Likes
7,458
Location
Houston
System Name Team Blue
Processor 5960X@4.8 1.42v
Motherboard Asus X99M-WS
Cooling EK Supremecy EVO, MCR220-Stack+MCR220+MCR320, D5-PWM+EK X-RES 140
Memory 4x8GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200 CL16
Video Card(s) (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's+ EVGA reference 1080Ti soon to be under water
Storage Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s) Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case Caselabs Mercury S5
Audio Device(s) Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse Thermaltake Theron
Keyboard Thermaltake Poseidon ZX
Software W10P
Benchmark Scores Zoom zoom mofo
#46
No the P4 was a good replacement for the P3. The Athlon CP's were better.
This is not about what CPU is better though. This is about an oc that is while cool still has no meaning at all in real time applications.
No not even a little bit go look into the original 1.4ghz P4's and compare them directly to the 1.0-1.4ghz P3's and come back to post again. More so the Pentium M's that used the P3 architecture vs the netburst architecture destroyed desktop chips hence the implementation of socket 479 to socket 478 converters so people could use Banais and Dothan based chips.

clock for clock the P3 beat the P4
Clock for clock almost everything beats P4.
 

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
19,194 (5.03/day)
Likes
4,798
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
#47
No not even a little bit go look into the original 1.4ghz P4's and compare them directly to the 1.0-1.4ghz P3's and come back to post again. More so the Pentium M's that used the P3 architecture vs the netburst architecture destroyed desktop chips hence the implementation of socket 479 to socket 478 converters so people could use Banais and Dothan based chips.



Clock for clock almost everything beats P4.
ive done a compare of the Intel atom to my Athlon XP machine and the Athlon Was faster. Hell my P4 laptop was faster than the Atom
 
Joined
Oct 10, 2009
Messages
867 (0.29/day)
Likes
207
Location
London, UK
System Name The one under the desk / Media Centre
Processor Xeon X3730@3.6GHZ / Phenom II X4 805E
Motherboard Gigabyte P55M-UD4 / Asus Crosshair III
Cooling Corsair H70 + 2*PWM fan / Arctic Alpine 11
Memory 16GB DRR3-1333 9-9-9-27 / 4GB Crucial DDR3-1333
Video Card(s) Asus DirectCU GTX 680 / Gigabyte 560TI
Storage Kingston V200 128GB, WD6400AAKS, 1TB Seagate 7.2kRPM SSHD / Kingston V200 128GB
Display(s) Samsung 2343BW + Dell Ultrasharp 1600*1200 / 32" TV
Case C'M' Silencio 550 / Some ancient SilverStone brushed aluminium media centre
Audio Device(s) No.
Power Supply Thermaltake Toughpower XT 675W / EVGA 430W
Mouse Mionix Naos 3200 / Generic PS2
Keyboard Roccat Ryos TKL Pro / Evoluent Mouse Friendly Keyboard (Logitech OEM)
Software Windows 7 Ult x64
Benchmark Scores Nah.
#48
Not exactly an upgrade to move from QX9770 to A10-5800K, is it ? Unless of course you left your poor brother with HD5550 or a similar graphics card wannabe ;) Then again you mentioned he doesn't play games at all so I guess graphics is irrelevant.

The purchase makes sense for somebody who doesn't have a computer already or who has something completely obsolete (Pentium4 or something like that) but you'll be spending $300 to get exactly same level of performance ...
Depends how much the 9770 can be sold for.
 
Joined
Dec 1, 2011
Messages
343 (0.16/day)
Likes
34
Location
Ft Stewart
System Name Queen Bee
Processor 3570k @ 4.0GHz
Motherboard Gigabyte UD3 Z77
Cooling Water Loop by EK
Memory 8GB Corsair 1600 DDR3
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 970 Gaming WaterCooled
Storage 1x Western Digital 500GB Black 1x Intel 20GB 311 SSD
Display(s) BenQ XL2420G
Case CoolTek W2
Power Supply Corsair 650Watt
Software Windows 7 Pro
#49
ive done a compare of the Intel atom to my Athlon XP machine and the Athlon Was faster. Hell my P4 laptop was faster than the Atom
A Texas Instruments Graphing calculator has more power then a atom, my friend would even debate a toaster being more powerful :roll:
In all reality this overclock "record" crap has no implication, even at that clock as much as I try to support AMD, a Intel chip at 4GHZ would smear it's lunch all over it's face.