AdoredTV Vega VII Review

Joss · Feb 14, 2019

Entertaining as usual

Dbiggs9 · Feb 14, 2019

I get my Vega VII Tuesday going to be great.

xkm1948 · Feb 14, 2019

Dbiggs9 said:
I get my Vega VII Tuesday going to be great.

New driver fixed the fan curve noise yet?

Hockster · Feb 15, 2019

Dbiggs9 said:
I get my Vega VII Tuesday going to be great.

Does it come with earplugs? :roll:

Zubasa · Feb 15, 2019

xkm1948 said:
New driver fixed the fan curve noise yet?

They fixed a whole slew of crashing issues of the review drivers at least.
This cards serves more as a PR disater more than anything else, what a good way to undo 2-years of good drivers support with crashing review drivers.
"We have this brand new high-end card, lets show the world how our review drivers crashes" :banghead:

king of swag187 · Feb 15, 2019

Hockster said:
Does it come with earplugs?

Forget earbuds, needs a portable AC unit lol

Wavetrex · Feb 15, 2019

Not directly related....

... but what sorcery is this ?
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/6241449

It sits between other LN2 overclocked 2080 Ti's and Titan RTX'es. HOW ???

EarthDog · Feb 15, 2019

This review is 37 minutes... jesus.. no thanks. What a long winded mofo... lol

Wavetrex said:
Not directly related....

... but what sorcery is this ?
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/6241449

It sits between other LN2 overclocked 2080 Ti's and Titan RTX'es. HOW ???

says it is in 2 way crossfire in his manually typed description...

...not related to adorned review indeed.

Wavetrex · Feb 15, 2019

EarthDog said:
says it is in 2 way crossfire in his manually typed description...

...not related to adorned review indeed.

Ah... missed that. 3Dmark mis-recognizes them as "1" card.

Well, might not be related to adored's video, but it is related to Radeon 7....

xkm1948 · Feb 15, 2019

First he claimed AMD driver is way better than competitor these days now.

Then he went on to complain about driver issues during his testing.

Lumping Vega64 to 1080Ti level performance

Using launch 2080 driver for comparison.

Yeah no. Some of the most biased review I gotta say.

And that accent. OMG that is just killing me. Whoever can listen to him mumbling for that long is a champion.

siluro818 · Feb 15, 2019

xkm1948 said:
First he claimed AMD driver is way better than competitor these days now.

Then he went on to complain about driver issues during his testing.

Lumping Vega64 to 1080Ti level performance

Using launch 2080 driver for comparison.

Yeah no. Some of the most biased review I gotta say.

And that accent. OMG that is just killing me. Whoever can listen to him mumbling for that long is a champion.

By AMD driver he means the client software, which has indeed been pretty amazing the last couple of years.

The driver issues he mentions refers to the early support for VII, which has nothing to do with the previous point.

The liquid cooled Vega is actually not that far off 1080Ti in some benchmarks, no surprises there.

He was open about using older 2080 results - that does not make the review biased, rather it's the opposite...

The accent is indeed heavy af, but once you get used to it it's actually pretty entertaining lol

Bottomline is this tho - Adored is not a reviewer, but an analyst and a researcher and probably the best there is.

If you want to learn about the industry at all you'd be wise to sub to that channel

xkm1948 · Feb 15, 2019

siluro818 said:
By AMD driver he means the client software, which has indeed been pretty amazing the last couple of years.

The driver issues he mentions refers to the early support for VII, which has nothing to do with the previous point.

The liquid cooled Vega is actually not that far off 1080Ti in some benchmarks, no surprises there.

He was open about using older 2080 results - that does not make the review biased, rather it's the opposite...

The accent is indeed heavy af, but once you get used to it it's actually pretty entertaining lol

Bottomline is this tho - Adored is not a reviewer, but an analyst and a researcher and probably the best there is.

If you want to learn about the industry at all you'd be wise to sub to that channel

https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graph...-Review-Vega-64-Vega-64-Liquid-Vega-56-Tested

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techspot.com/amp/review/1476-amd-radeon-vega-64/

Better than stock 1080, yes. Nah V64 LC is not even close to 1080Ti performance.

siluro818 · Feb 15, 2019

xkm1948 said:
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graph...-Review-Vega-64-Vega-64-Liquid-Vega-56-Tested

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techspot.com/amp/review/1476-amd-radeon-vega-64/

Better than stock 1080, yes. Nah V64 LC is not even close to 1080Ti performance.

I wrote "not that far off in some benchmarks". That happens to be true, but I won't be bothered to link a bunch of cherry-picked benchmarks, to prove something that was far from the main point of my post...

xkm1948 · Feb 15, 2019

siluro818 said:
I wrote "not that far off in some benchmarks". That happens to be true, but I won't be bothered to link a bunch of cherry-picked benchmarks, to prove something that was far from the main point of my post...

So PCPer and techspot are "Cherry-picked" and over 10% consistent difference is "same level"

Well noted and agreed. Nothing to discuss with ya here. Have a good day.

siluro818 · Feb 15, 2019

xkm1948 said:
So PCPer and techspot are "Cherry-picked" and over 10% consistent difference is "same level"

Well noted and agreed. Nothing to discuss with ya here. Have a good day.

Are you like... insecure or something? Or is it the English skills? I was referring to ME spending time to cherry-pick benchmarks lol
Hell, you'll find some right there in your techspot link - check out Doom, Dirt 4, or The Division, esp at 1440p

the54thvoid · Feb 15, 2019

siluro818 said:
Are you like... insecure or something? Or is it the English skills? I was referring to ME spending time to cherry-pick benchmarks lol
Hell, you'll find some right there in your techspot link - check out Doom, Dirt 4, or The Division, esp at 1440p

Just to note, DOOM has a 200fps hard cap. The 1080ti is artificially limited, the LC Vega 64 is not. It's also a Vulkan title and strictly speaking, Vega 64 is nowhere near the 1080ti, despite AMD being the Gods of Vulkan - at 4k (where the 200fpa hard cap isn't relevant) it's 25% slower.

DIRT 4 uses CMAA, which makes it a win for AMD.

EarthDog · Feb 15, 2019

xkm1948 said:
First he claimed AMD driver is way better than competitor these days now.

Then he went on to complain about driver issues during his testing.

Lumping Vega64 to 1080Ti level performance

Using launch 2080 driver for comparison.

Yeah no. Some of the most biased review I gotta say.

And that accent. OMG that is just killing me. Whoever can listen to him mumbling for that long is a champion.

Adored, is......adorable... and the OP got it right. Entertaining. That is it though.

Oh, did I say that is 37 mins long? WTH?

Joss · Feb 15, 2019

Towards the end of the video, at 35:25

We really need to talk Radeon technologies group. I feel that I can help you fix a lot of this issues that you're having, both with your hardware and with the tech press. I've got ideas that I'm reasonably sure will work; it won't be worse than what you're currently doing, that's for sure!

Cheeky bugger

cucker tarlson · Feb 15, 2019

adoredtv,well,this is some serious piece of tech journalism,I gotta watch it

Joss said:
Towards the end of the video, at 35:25

Cheeky bugger

I already said a hundred times that if he's not getting paid for the work he does,he's silly.He must've realised that.

xkm1948 · Feb 15, 2019

Joss said:
Towards the end of the video, at 35:25

Cheeky bugger

So all the scottie's YouTube adventure is just an elaborate stunt he is pulling in front of AMD HR, to get into AMD and work at their PR department

Well played.

cucker tarlson · Feb 15, 2019

xkm1948 said:
Better than stock 1080, yes. Nah V64 LC is not even close to 1080Ti performance.

it's in the ballpark but very inconsistent.
it's the same case as RVII vs 2080. You can find it match 2080 in a few games,but you'll find it lose to gtx 2070 in some too, same as you'll find Radeon 64 LC get close to 1080Ti and fall behind or match 1080 on a few occasions. The power is there,but the driver team can't follow.

and using old data for comparison - absolutely reprehensible.

Frutika007 · Feb 15, 2019

The biggest AMD shill in YouTube history. A hard pass. Also he is not an expert,he just copies informations from various sources,puts them together and makes a long weirdly accented video out of it. Also he is the biggest culprit for fake rumors and hypes for AMD products. Only AMD fanboys will enjoy his content,not someone who is just eager about building a valued PC.

xkm1948 · Feb 15, 2019

cucker tarlson said:
it's in the ballpark but very inconsistent.
it's the same case as RVII vs 2080. You can find it match 2080 in a few games,but you'll find it lose to gtx 2070 in some too, same as you'll find Radeon 64 LC get close to 1080Ti and fall behind or match 1080 on a few occasions. The power is there,but the driver team can't follow.

and using old data for comparison - absolutely reprehensible.

The inherent problem of GCN, weak scheduler to distribute the workloads to all CUs. In the end when game devs optimize for it most CUs are occupied and you get good FPS. For most games however a lot of the CU just sit there doing no work while running at full speed. I remember there was a shader utilization visluzation tool a while ago during the Maxwell Fiji timeline. Would be interesting to see how newer Vega does.

R4WN4K said:
The biggest AMD shill in YouTube history. A hard pass. Also he is not an expert,he just copies informations from various sources,puts them together and makes a long weirdly accented video out of it. Also he is the biggest culprit for fake rumors and hypes for AMD products. Only AMD fanboys will enjoy his content,not someone who is just eager about building a valued PC.

Single handedly hyped up the RyZen 3000 before CES as well as the Navi RX30x0 rumor.

However I must say he is smart. His target audience is small bunch of core AMD fanboys. As long as he keeps that core fan base he would be just fine.

cucker tarlson · Feb 15, 2019

xkm1948 said:
However I must say he is smart. His target audience is small bunch of core AMD fanboys. As long as he keeps that core fan base he would be just fine.

yeah he's extremely successful in that.

Frutika007 · Feb 15, 2019

cucker tarlson said:
it's in the ballpark but very inconsistent.
it's the same case as RVII vs 2080. You can find it match 2080 in a few games,but you'll find it lose to gtx 2070 in some too, same as you'll find Radeon 64 LC get close to 1080Ti and fall behind or match 1080 on a few occasions. The power is there,but the driver team can't follow.

and using old data for comparison - absolutely reprehensible.

Umm no.the power isn't there. It only does better in those games where it favours AMD over nvidia. Like dirt 4 using cmaa,nothing to do with power,just biased tech that's all. The actual power is somewhat on par with gtx 1080. GTX 1060 3gb beats RX 580 8gb in metro exodus on maxed settings. So does that mean gtx 1060 3gb has the power to beat rx 580 8gb but the driver team just can't follow?? Obviously not,it's just due to use of gimpworks,nothing to do with actual gpu power.

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