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Hi I have recently been experiencing a drop in my fibre speed and the openreach engineer said that it could be the signal on the adsl cable between the main box and the router upstairs a cable length of about 5m and suggested that I upgrade the cable, what cable should I use, I should receive 66 mbs.
 

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Take your router right next to the main box with a short cable to check if that's really what makes the difference.

If that helps, install the router near main box and then run Ethernet up to your PC. Ethernet cable length won't affect speed.
 
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I will try that but I would have liked to have kept the router upstairs the engineer mentioned about running a cat 5 cable or cat something.
 
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5 meters is no big deal. 100 meters is generally considered the maximum allowed.
and the openreach engineer said that it could be the signal on the adsl cable between the main box and the router upstairs a cable length of about 5m
:( Not likely - unless it was recently subjected to physical abuse and damaged. Indoor cables (those not exposed to the sun or inclement weather) don't suddenly go bad just due to age. Note that physical abuse does not just included being pulled, pinched, or the connectors stepped on. Pets chewing, or rodent/insect activity can do it too.

Even very old CAT-5 cable supports up to 100Mbps speeds. CAT-5e has been around since 2001 and that handles up to 1000Mbps and is most commonly used. CAT-6 is here now and it is "certified" to support 1000Mbps. So if you have to replace your cable, I recommend at least CAT-5e or better yet, CAT-6 for the best future proofing.

HOWEVER, just as important is the connector. And sadly, many pre-made cables are poorly assembled so I always make my own cables. If you go this route, "invest" in quality crimpers and connectors. And a tester (this works for CAT-5e too). The advantages of making your own are huge. For one, if you need a 18 inch or 7 1/2 foot cable, you can make them instead of buying a 3 foot and 10 foot cable. If pulling through walls or ceiling, it takes smaller holes since you put the connector on after pulling. And you can ensure better quality crimps. It is a bit tedious since the 8 wires are so small, as is the connector. So good lighting is essential and be prepared to sacrifice a few connectors for practice. That's where the tester quickly pays for itself. Even if you buy pre-made cables, having a tester handy for troubleshooting is a good idea.
 

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It is a bit tedious since the 8 wires are so small, as is the connector. So good lighting is essential and be prepared to sacrifice a few connectors for practice.
And a nice big, fat, magnifying glass if your vision is anything like mine. :laugh:

Making your own cables sounds like a good idea.
 

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Adsl huh, you could have a DSLAM that is Remote Terminal based-near by where you live, or in the CentralOffice/ Exchange. if it is RT based it shoyld be fiber to curb cabinet then copper for last mile, if co based then your signal could be traveling on copper from the CO to a terminal then from terminal to drop line to nid on home.
 
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As I am new to these cat 5e or cat 6 cables is it a case of plug it into the main box but what about the other end, according to one of the engineers that was out for a previous fault from the cabinet to the house about 400 - 500meters is copper and aluminium ,but to be sure if I rule out the internal then it must be outside.
 
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And a nice big, fat, magnifying glass if your vision is anything like mine.
Hey, that's what trifocals are for! ;)
Making your own cables sounds like a good idea.
If only making a couple cables in your lifetime, it is probably not worth it since a quality crimper is not cheap. Especially if you wasted money on two cheap crimpers before realizing you should have invested in quality tools from the start. :oops: :mad: :)

But for me, it eventually paid off when a large portion of the basement ceiling in this old house collapsed. Once all the basement ceiling/upstairs floor joists were exposed, it was easy to wire my whole house with CAT-5e.
As I am new to these cat 5e or cat 6 cables is it a case of plug it into the main box but what about the other end.
Not sure what you mean. We are talking about the Ethernet connection from your ADSL modem to your router, right? And by "main box" you are talking about your ADSL modem, right? If so, you plug the other end into the router where the current cable is connected.

If you are talking about the cable going to the ADSL modem, to me, that should be your ISP's responsibility.
 

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If only making a couple cables in your lifetime, it is probably not worth it since a quality crimper is not cheap. Especially if you wasted money on two cheap crimpers before realizing you should have invested in quality tools from the start. :oops::mad::)

But for me, it eventually paid off when a large portion of the basement ceiling in this old house collapsed. Once all the basement ceiling/upstairs floor joists were exposed, it was easy to wire my whole house with CAT-5e.
Yeah, it wouldn't be that often that I have to make my own cables, but I can simply use enthusiast logic to get round this one...

A bit off topic here, but I couldn't hack varifocals so returned them after only an hour, so I doubt I'd be able to hack any other combo lens, lol. I now switch between distance and reading glasses which is wearing a groove on the sides of my head. :laugh:
 
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If you mean "no-line" bi or trifocals, I couldn't either. But either way, you need to give them a few days to get used to, not an hour.
 

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If pulling through walls or ceiling, it takes smaller holes since you put the connector on after pulling.
Technically you are not supposed to use cables with connectors for fixed installation.
 
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Technically you are not supposed to use cables with connectors for fixed installation.
I don't know what you mean by that. I don't know of any modem or router (or switch, hub, or computer) that uses "hard wired" (soldered) network cables. So you must use RJ-45 connectors to connect your Ethernet cables.
 
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5 meters is no big deal. 100 meters is generally considered the maximum allowed.
:( Not likely - unless it was recently subjected to physical abuse and damaged. Indoor cables (those not exposed to the sun or inclement weather) don't suddenly go bad just due to age. Note that physical abuse does not just included being pulled, pinched, or the connectors stepped on. Pets chewing, or rodent/insect activity can do it too.

Even very old CAT-5 cable supports up to 100Mbps speeds. CAT-5e has been around since 2001 and that handles up to 1000Mbps and is most commonly used. CAT-6 is here now and it is "certified" to support 1000Mbps. So if you have to replace your cable, I recommend at least CAT-5e or better yet, CAT-6 for the best future proofing.

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As it so happens I completely agree with this post; here is a search you may want to explore in several ways

https://www.google.nl/search?q=crim.....69i57j0l5.3045j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

One major screw up you see everywhere is that you get cables where the whole thing (connector + shielding + inner cabling) are all crimped together. This is not the best method. What you'd want is this. Note how the shielding stops UNDER the clamp on the connector. Main advantage: you don't destroy the inner cable when you pull it hard - you just pull down the shielding.

Beyond that I'd look for other causes to this problem to be fair, cable doesn't just go bad unless you can physically see damage.

Crimp ethernet.jpg
 

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I don't know what you mean by that. I don't know of any modem or router (or switch, hub, or computer) that uses "hard wired" (soldered) network cables. So you must use RJ-45 connectors to connect your Ethernet cables.
When you install Ethernet cables in/on walls you shouldn't use patch cables but installation cables and terminate each end with a patch panel / network socket. Then plug ethernet cables into those.
 

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When you install Ethernet cables in/on walls you shouldn't use patch cables but installation cables and terminate each end with a patch panel / network socket. Then plug ethernet cables into those.
That's the right thing in an office environment however that doesn't always happen example smart panel homes
 
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Ah! I see what you mean. Not many people use patch panels in their home networks (except maybe in new homes that are wired for Ethernet during the build). But for sure, for a more professional installation, Ethernet wall jacks should be used, then a patch cable to the network device. But many just punch a hole through walls for a direct connection to the device. Not the prettiest solution but it does mean fewer connections that might introduce problems.
 
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I had a similar problem when I was on ADSL. What I ended up doing was replacing all the phone lines in the house with shielded CAT6 (overkill) and, most importantly, the phones were on a whole-home filter outside of the house by the phone line box while there was a dedicated line (unsplit and unfiltered) going directly from the phone line box to the ADSL gateway. The net effect was phone lines were cleaned up (if there's problems it's never on my end unless the external ADSL filter failed) and I was able to get 3 mbps ADSL when everyone else on my line is stuck with 1 mbps.

TL;DR: if it hasn't been done already, run a direct cable from the phone box to the gateway separating internet service from everything else. Ideally, that cable should be run all the way to where you intend to put the ADSL gateway so you use as little crappy CAT3 cable as possible (I think mine was 2m of CAT3).
 

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hi sorry for not getting back, all I want preferably is a good cable to go from this main socket to the router upstairs or if need be or if I have to move the router downstairs a cable to go from the router to the pc upstairs would an ethernet ( yellow cable) be good enough. how about this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/15m-Black-Network-Cable-enhanced/dp/B003ZAYUEO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1526598807&sr=8-3&keywords=15+meter+ethernet+cable&dpID=31SrJMJ%2BGGL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
This looks like a half Ringer to an extent
 
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Hi tried to order cable from my mate vince but I can't find his web page I tried this https://www.mymatevince.com/
You don't have to get your cable from "Vince", just get decent CAT5e or CAT6 cable in the length you need from ebay, amazon, computer store, department (supercenter) store, etc..
And, either you terminate it; or, if you want... get it, already, terminated, if you can get by with it pre-terminated.

The "My Mate Vince" links were so you could watch the videos and get some ideas.

However, my two cents, I don't believe that 5M (16.4, or so, feet) is going to cause a drop in speed, all of a sudden, when it was working before. Unless, the cable took a turn for the worse.
Had any bad weather, lately... storms, lightning.
Try re=booting your modem / router and any other equipment.

Some links:
UK ADSL Broadband Internet Connection Tips and Tweaks
Freeola Broadband Line Quality Test
Openreach Local network status checker

How to Improve Your Broadband Speed

I should receive 66 mbs.
400 - 500meters is copper and aluminium
How Does Speed Vary with Distance?
 
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Hi I have had all the checks done by talktalk and an Openreach line engineer and according to the line engineer he said that there was 83mbs coming into the main box in the house and all I get when it reaches the pc is 52mbs so I said I would upgrade the cable to rule it out he said that the speed was almost the same when he tested at the end of the cable as it goes into the router, Vince was on about a cat5e cable with an rj45 on one end and an rj11 on the other end I will have a look for that.
 

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Hi I have had all the checks done by talktalk and an Openreach line engineer and according to the line engineer he said that there was 83mbs coming into the main box in the house and all I get when it reaches the pc is 52mbs so I said I would upgrade the cable to rule it out he said that the speed was almost the same when he tested at the end of the cable as it goes into the router, Vince was on about a cat5e cable with an rj45 on one end and an rj11 on the other end I will have a look for that.
What the heck on the RJ 11 bit. That terminating box is a halfringer/smartjack then if they could test from it there.

ADSL uses a 1 pair of utp, if it is bonded pair it would be 2 utp. That line from the smart jack, does it go to a modem?. It could be a fault in the smart jack too.
 
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