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Advice on morally dubious and possibly illegal thing my company wants me to do

Discussion in 'Programming & Webmastering' started by Red_Machine, Apr 24, 2014.

  1. Devon68

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    It's nice that he understood your reasoning's. Making videos should be fun.
     
  2. Arctucas

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    Meh, it is Facebooger, they deserve what they get.

    And it is not like Facebooger is not getting rich off of datamining all their lusers info...
     
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  3. Red_Machine

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    It's been a while since I updated this, but a lot of stuff's been going on since then and I haven't had the time.

    Long story short, I got "let go". At the end of April, I asked if my boss was happy to make my employment permanent, and he said he was; he'd get a contract drawn up and make everything official in a few days. About a week later, he said he'd been reading through Facebook's ToS and basically said there was a loophole which meant he could get away with his advertising campaign without violating it, but he said he would be the one doing it because he knew I had reservations about the whole thing. Fast forward a fortnight and I was ill; I told my boss I wasn't feeling great, so he said I should go home and rest. Next morning I head back into work and there's a new guy at my desk, boss looks surprised to see me, insisted that I go back home and rest. I didn't want to argue, so I left. A few hours later I get a call from the boss, asking me how I am; I tell him I think I'll be able to come in tomorrow, but he basically tells me not to bother. Apparently I'm not "enthusiastic enough" and they want someone who will give 110% at all times. Apparently I'd put him on the spot when I asked him if he wanted to make my employment permanent and he "hadn't been able to think it through properly". I call bullshit. He probably didn't like me being difficult over the whole Facebook/YouTube thing and decided to get rid of me while he still had the chance. Kinda not really surprised, to be honest.
     
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    That's the bad part about the whole thing is that there is always someone ready to do your job for less... and more than likely if they are willing to do it for less then they will do those shady things as well buddy.
     
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    Like I said before, even it is not morally or legally what a boss ask, if you refuse(or let the feeling that), you have numbered days in that job place...
     
  6. Easy Rhino

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    Well, you are probably better off. It doesn't sound like a place that rewards it employees very well.
     
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    You are better off man. Now report his ass to facebook and anyone they do shady things too. Don't worry about burning bridges. That bridge is toast anyway!
     
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    To hell with those shady PR scumbags.

    Did you receive any severance?

    Do you have any recourse under a UK equivalent of wrongful termination?

    Regardless, I'd be sure to drop Facebook a line and piss all over their parade.

    May you simultaneously land squarely on your feet and their testes.
     
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    I'd say its time to call the labour board tbh
     
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  10. Red_Machine

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    I don't really have a leg to stand on, unfortunately. The whole trial period thing basically means the employer can dismiss you for whatever reason they like almost. I never signed a contract, so I was technically still on probation/trial.
     
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    That just sucks big time. Well man I wish you the best and you didn't need to work for a scab like that.
     
  12. M0rt

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    Well, all that's left is the :nutkick then.

    I hope we both live long enough to see the demise of the political-economy that produces and nurtures such scumbaggery.

    Much respect, amigo.
     
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    i have lost a couple of jobs due to morals "well walked out on a couple"
    Some people say morals cost nothing but they can be really expensive and i did end up in a lot of debt because of it..
    Still feel better about it in a way. but the companys never suffered at all so its hard to claim any sort of victory other than i don't have to question my self about my actions as i know i was morally right.

    personaly i think morals are the most expensive/valuable things in life.

    p.s
    you can still file for unfair dissmissal and tell your story. maybe linking to this thread would help prove it really happened. one word vs another is usually pretty pointless to try and follow up but atleast you have documented time dated evidence that that things happened in a certain way. (or you were voicing your concerns about the things that you were being asked to do)
    at the very least it may get some investigations going in to the company's dubious practices.

    empliyment laws in the uk are different to the u.s
    in the u.s "or atleast some parts" they can dissmiss you for any reason they like.
    In the uk they need a reasonable reason even if you were on a trial. due to the job centers "voluentry" programs companys can hier a "volunteer" and the job center would send you down to do the work for free.
    tesco and other companys a few years back made big news about doing the same sort of stuff. and a lot of things changed.
    so give it a try. what have you got to lose?

    p.s

    a point that proves the volunteer program is stupid. I know a person who refused to go volunteer at a shop because it was slave labour. lost their benefits. BUT because no one volunteerd at the shop the very next week he got a job there..
    So if they didnt have this stupid volentry program he would have had a job a week earlier, because the company couldnt have tried to get forced free labour through the goverment..
     
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