Advice on my new build

[FooArm]

rly ?? dam i am so confused so the 450 watt from corsair too

 

[BrooksyX]

and are u sure with the XIGMATEK HDT do u have past experience and/or no friends

I don't have one but I wish I did, its one of the most recommended air cpu coolers on the market right now. Just the fact that it has almost 500 reviews on newegg shows that it is a really popular one.

The asus one won't give you any benefits over the stock intel one. Might even be worse than the stock one.

 

[KBD]

rly ?? dam i am so confused so the 450 watt from corsair too

what the hell are u talking about?

 

[FooArm]

i dont knoow you say i need more than 380 watts and calculator says i need less than 380 watt

and the antec PSU that comes with the case is a really good one

 

[BrooksyX]

i dont knoow you say i need more than 380 watts and calculator says i need less than 380 watt

and the antec PSU that comes with the case is a really good one

you could probably get by with the 380watt psu for a while but I would recommend that you don't do any overclocking at all until you get a psu with a lot more juice.

 

[KBD]

i dont knoow you say i need more than 380 watts and calculator says i need less than 380 watt

and the antec PSU that comes with the case is a really good one

You may not need more than 380W, but i wouldnt recomend going with that one, get at least 430W. Like BrooksyX sed if you gonna overcklock that will require a lot more juice.

 

[FooArm]

okay so i will get the 380 for now and when i plan to overclock/save money ill go with the 430

 

[Castiel]

Why are you having 2 kinds of RAM? Why don't you just get one of the other x2?

 

[FooArm]

actually thats what i am planing to do here are new specs see

intel which u said and mobo

+ xfx 9800 GT

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150316

+ mushkin 4 GB (2 X 2) DDR2 800 mhz

+ Antec NSK4480B CASE (comes with ANTEC EarthWatts 380W ATX12V v2.0 80Plus Certified power supply)

+ASUS V-60 92mm Vapo Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail


and all of this + vista 64 bit for $ 553. 50


i know it is 50 bucks more of my budget but i think that this will give me better performance and last me longer

is 380 watts enough for a 9800 gt + E5200 ... i plan to overclock the CPU to 3.5 GHz and 1.31V with a 1333 FSB (10.5 x 333) and the 9800 GT from 600 mhz to about 650 mhz

i think i can get the corsair 450vx also but will have to postpone the new LCD my a month (already have 19" LCD so its okay)

did you read this

 

[spearman914]

Mixing 4 sticks is a bad idea since u will have more problems. But 2x2GB kits. Much better running dual channel, faster and cheaper.

 

[spearman914]

i dont knoow you say i need more than 380 watts and calculator says i need less than 380 watt

and the antec PSU that comes with the case is a really good one

Most calculators are inaccurate. It says u need 380 so what ur gonna overclock anyway. Maybe...... but u get the point.

 

[FooArm]

Most calculators are inaccurate. It says u need 380 so what ur gonna overclock anyway. Maybe...... but u get the point.

well it said 337 with cpu over clock to 3.5 ghz and 1333 fsb

 

[atarist]

never use the p.s.u. that comes with any case if you intend on makeing a good p.c. with all that
new expensive herdware you have mentioned in your top post it would make good sense in the long
Run. you have 2 remember that most p.s.u.s that come with cases are just cheap crap made 2 make
the case look good for what you are paying for it.
i have a p.s.u that come with a case what i am using just as a (temporary measyre) in one of my old
p.c.s i have thats just runing old crapy p.c. hardware so if it ever whent bang i would not lose any sleep over it lol.

 

[spearman914]

well it said 337 with cpu over clock to 3.5 ghz and 1333 fsb

Yea but did u read the first line. "Most calculators are inaccurate" and as mussels said if u are going on building a good pc NEVER use the PSU that comes with a case. I did that once when I found out my PC was dead in 8 months.

 

[BrooksyX]

never use the p.s.u. that comes with any case if you intend on makeing a good p.c. with all that
new expensive herdware you have mentioned in your top post it would make good sense in the long
Run. you have 2 remember that most p.s.u.s that come with cases are just cheap crap made 2 make
the case look good for what you are paying for it.
i have a p.s.u that come with a case what i am using just as a (temporary measyre) in one of my old
p.c.s i have thats just runing old crapy p.c. hardware so if it ever whent bang i would not lose any sleep over it lol.

Were not talking about a raidmax or rosewell case here. He is getting an Antec Case which happens to come with an antec psu. Antec is known to have pretty decent Power Supplys so he shouldn't have any problems with it.

okay so i will get the 380 for now and when i plan to overclock/save money ill go with the 430

I hope you mean the Corsair 450 watt one. I had that thermaltake 430 watt one and it did not have enought amps for an 9800gt. The Corsair 450 watt should be perfect for you and doesnt cost that much.

Make an updated list off all the parts you plan on getting.

 

[KBD]

Yea but did u read the first line. "Most calculators are inaccurate" and as mussels said if u are going on building a good pc NEVER use the PSU that comes with a case. I did that once when I found out my PC was dead in 8 months.

yea, spearman, it doesnt look like he gets, a few people, including myself told him to a) not to trust PSU calculators and b) dont get a PSU that comes with a case as for the most part they are crap.

Though the Antec Earthwatts is not a bad PSU for the money, its actually a Seasonic OEM and their stuff is usually good, but 380W is not enough for his needs.

 

[atarist]

Were not talking about a raidmax or rosewell case here. He is getting an Antec Case which happens to come with an antec psu. Antec is known to have pretty decent Power Supplys so he shouldn't have any problems with it.

o right if that case has a good p.s.u. go for it then.
i just by cheap cases and the p.s.u.s in them things are just poo.

 

[BrooksyX]

yea, spearman, it doesnt look like he gets, a few people, including myself told him to a) not to trust PSU calculators and b) dont get a PSU that comes with a case.

Though the Antec Earthwatts is not a bad PSU for the money, its actually a Seasonic OEM and their stuff is usually good, but 380W is not enough for his needs.

But understanding that he is one a limited budget, the 380 watt psu should get him by for a few months as long as he is not doing any overclocking. Most 500 watt psus are really about 350 watts. Thats why a 500 watt psu is recommended for a 9800gt when the whole system only really needs like 300 watts. Considering that it is a seasonic psu, it should be rated correctly at 380 watts and honestly he would probably be completely fine with it for the life of the computer as long as he does not overclock his system.

However he does plan on overclocking so I think the antec psu will do a good job holding him over until he can get at least a corsair 450 watt psu.

 

[KBD]

But understanding that he is one a limited budget, the 380 watt psu should get him by for a few months as long as he is not doing any overclocking. Most 500 watt psus are really about 350 watts. Thats why a 500 watt psu is recommended for a 9800gt when the whole system only really needs like 300 watts. Considering that it is a seasonic psu, it should be rated correctly at 380 watts and honestly he would probably be completely fine with it for the life of the computer as long as he does not overclock his system.

However he does plan on overclocking so I think the antec psu will do a good job holding him over until he can get at least a corsair 450 watt psu.

yes, i understand what u r saying and that hes on a budget. But he himself said he wants to overclock so he'll be needing something with more juice. I havent read reviews on this PSU, i only know that jonnyguru recomended the 500W version of it for budget systems, however it is still possible that it will not delever all thats promised on the label, this is why i take a cautious approach. Furthermore, when shopping for a PSU its always a good idea to get to a little more than you need, you dont want your unit to be running near or at its full capacity all the time. Thats why as i general rule i suggest that people get whatever they need plus 100W or so so it will give em some overhead.

What i would do is sacrafice on another component in favor of a better/higher wattage PSU, he can get a cheaper case, video card, less fans, etc. Also shopping around for parts is a good idea, he can check out the TPU for sale section or ebay, those are good places to save money.

 

[BrooksyX]

yes, i understand what u r saying and that hes on a budget. But he himself said he wants to overclock so he'll be needing something with more juice. I havent read reviews on this PSU, i only know that jonnyguru recomended the 500W version of it for budget systems, however it is still possible that it will not delever all thats promised on the label, this is why i take a cautious approach. Furthermore, when shopping for a PSU its always a good idea to get to a little more than you need, you dont want your unit to be running near or at its full capacity all the time. Thats why as i general rule i suggest that people get whatever they need plus 100W or so so it will give em some overhead.

I agree that it is always a good idea to have plenty of headroom when it comes to your psu. So i guess in his case he could wait another month or two to save up some extra cash or risk it I guess. I know myself, being on a pretty limited budget, have ran some systems on psus that were most likely a little to low but never really had any problems.

Also another good idea would to go back to the 3870 and get a crossfire motherboard (p35/p45). Then get another 3870 and better psu later on. That build should have no problems running on that setup with a 3870, its a lot less power hungry than the 9800gt.

 

[KBD]

I agree that it is always a good idea to have plenty of headroom when it comes to your psu. So i guess in his case he could wait another month or two to save up some extra cash or risk it I guess. I know myself, being on a pretty limited budget, have ran some systems on psus that were most likely a little to low but never really had any problems.

you summed it pretty good: either take a chance or save.

Or he can do what i suggested, shop around, sacrifice on other parts.

I know that systems can be run on a PSU not designed to power em, i've done it before, but i would really hate to see him lose his components he paid his hard earned cash for because of a crappy or underpowered PSU. But in the end, it is obviously his choice, all we can do is steer him in the right direction.

Also another good idea would to go back to the 3870 and get a crossfire motherboard (p35/p45). Then get another 3870 and better psu later on. That build should have no problems running on that setup with a 3870, its a lot less power hungry than the 9800gt.

Agreed, good idea

 

[FooArm]

yes i am getting the Corsair 450 but after a while

 

[BrooksyX]

yes i am getting the Corsair 450 but after a while

do you have an updated list of items your planning on getting so we can approve/disapprove of them lol

 

[FooArm]

actually thats what i am planing to do here are new specs see

intel E5200

Elite group P43

+ palit 9800 GT

+ mushkin 4 GB (2 X 2) DDR2 800 mhz

+ Antec NSK4480B CASE (comes with ANTEC EarthWatts 380W ATX12V v2.0 80Plus Certified power supply)

+ASUS V-60 92mm Vapo Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail


and all of this + vista 64 bit for $ 553. 50

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FROM Before

LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model - OEM - $25.99

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i know it is 50 bucks more of my budget but i think that this will give me better performance and last me longer

is 380 watts enough for a 9800 gt + E5200 ... i plan to overclock the CPU to 3.5 GHz and 1.31V with a 1333 FSB (10.5 x 333) and the 9800 GT from 600 mhz to about 650 mhz

i think i can get the corsair 450vx also but will have to postpone the new LCD my a month (already have 19" LCD so its okay)

 

[KBD]

i recomend you swap the Asus CPU cooler for a Sunbeam Contact Core Freezer, its only $5 more after rebate but its much better & will give u higher overclocks.