really? a hot heatsink means its an inadequate heatsink? thank you so much for that gem. here i though heatsinks got hot because of the thermal conductivity of what they are cooling. silly me. got more of those generalizations?
Jeez, you really don't seem to even want to understand nuance, do you? A heatsink in a PC hitting 95C is too hot
, as it is clearly not dissipating heat sufficiently to stay within a reasonable temperature range for consumer use. It is either not receiving sufficient airflow, has too small of a surface area for the thermal load in question, or is a bad design in some other way. This is especially true if the heatsink might be touched by a user. Just look at CPU heatsinks - even if your CPU is pegged at 99C and thermal throttling, the heatsink (obviously entirely dependent on its size, fin array, airflow, etc.) is extremely
unlikely to be anywhere near that temperature, and for most heatsinks the thermal delta between it and the CPU temperature is likely to be >30C. It might still be too hot to touch, but not hot enough to burn you if you brush past it. Component temperature and heatsink temperature are typically very
If your heatsink is hitting 95C under ideal conditions and this indicates that the component being cooled is within spec, you still have a design that is unsafe as long as the heatsink can be touched.If your heatsink is hitting 95C and is the best heatsink ever made with incredibly efficient thermal transfer, then you have insufficient airflow to dissipate heat. If your heatsink is hitting 95C and is a normal heatsink with normal thermal transfer, your heat source is likely quite a lot hotter than 95C, and your component is likely overheating, making either the heatsink, airflow or both insufficient. Either way, that is too hot for a heat dissipating surface in consumer usage.
but still mentioned it, eh? but again thanks, i had no idea once sentence could be perceived as "so many" complaints.
Not one sentence, but rather the continued harping on an off-hand joke as if it was in any way the gist of what I said, and taking it as an attack rather than a criticism of the unreasonable conditions you seemed to be positing as a baseline for your statements.
though you still haven't substantiated your broad generalizations - even if it might be a shared opinion. and here you go again with your subjective opinion on what should be available in the market. btw, a GTX 480 rose from the grave among many, many other cards and said hello. now what was that about hitting/not hitting the market?
Which generalizations? That temperatures near 100C are too high for safety for a heatsink that might be touched, and that this is thus a bad design? Sorry, that's not a generalization, that's just facts. Consumer electronics should not get hot enough that they can harm you (perhaps except the few that specifically need to get really hot, like stovetops). In general, if your design is a safety hazard, it's a bad design. And yes, that is a generalization, as well as an opinion, but it's also the principle upon which the entire concept of consumer safety regulations exist. So the onus is on you to explain how this might not be the case. A bad design is a bad design, even if it works and is allowed to be sold. Consumer usage is of course different from professional usage, where one should be able to assume some baseline of safety training ("don't touch the hot parts", etc.).
lets get the mischaracterization out of the way; i never said anything about bad ideas, cables melting or starting a BBQ fire. ("artistic license" included) i'll repeat what you quoted in your first reply:
talk about learning how to take a joke . . "sticky cables" went over your head?
It likely did - I have no idea how "sticky cables" amounts to a joke. Feel free to expand on that if you want.
As for "mischaracterizations" - so you wouldn't say that these adapters, or using them, is a bad idea? 'Cause if so, I don't understand what you are saying here at all. Are you actually saying these are a good idea, or that they don't make a difference either way? 'Cause your posts sure seem to lean towards the first option.
and don't try to accuse/infer/whatever me of a specific use case scenario
Infer? You specifically stated that when you overclock and overvolt your GPU, the backplate hits very high temperatures. No inference needed.
when your totally blowing off the market this adapter is available. hint: it isn't western. so yeah even though it was meant as a silly comment about china- it's alot more relevant than that of the PSUs in the west.
But I'm not! I even specifically pointed out above that these have already been available on AliExpress and other places for years
! TPU, on the other hand, is a western-facing, English-language tech site, which makes it a reasonable assumption that a press release sent to them means the product is meant for release in markets relevant to the majority of TPU readers. Obviously there are a lot of TPU readers in a lot of places, but the main audience is still EU+US.
Edit: seems I skimmed this too quickly to spot the sentence about no international release, though AFAIK Japanese electronics safety regulations are roughly comparable to EU/US ones.
and btw, truth be told. i am fairly certain you believe the great consumer protections you enjoy as a western european applies everywhere.
Now who is making assumptions with zero basis in what has been said? Heck, I've specifically pointed out that the protections I've mentioned are EU/US ones - it thus stands to reasons that whatever regulations apply in other places - if any - will likely be different in some way.
sorry pal, but it is with great jealousy that i tell you they don't.
Again: no idea where you got that assumption from, but I would assume this is quite common knowledge in PC/electronics enthusiast circles. There's a reason why cheap AliExpress junk has a reputation for catching fire. (That hasn't stopped me from buying and enjoying a lot of it though, and to be entirely clear a lot of it is also very good - but some of it is also downright dangerous.)
but hey, totally agree that for an ITX or even an HTPC build that none of this would be an issue.
Great! 'Cause aside from ITX and using a too-tall GPU in a too-narrow case, these adapters don't exactly have much of a use.
really the first mention was about the pic and if anyone would actually bothered to look and to think about it. there is almost no chance (aside from an inverted case) that the card would be orientated like that.
Sorry, I can't see what you're saying. The pic looks like a bog-standard GPU installation to me, and can of course be rotated to match whatever orientation your GPU is installed in.
the only thing i've had issue with is people immediately drawing conclusion about experiences they never had. now who is looking for a problem?
I didn't have to look for a problem, as I've said above they were quite clear in your writing. As for drawing conclusions about experiences you've never had: I have several adapters like these, and have used them with zero problems. Have you?