AM1 owners club

[Thefumigator]

I own two 5350, one on ultra affordable (like 25 bucks) ECS KAM1-I
and the other on Asrock AM1B-M.

One of these replaced an old AMD C-50 Zacate system. It's doing surveillance camera, development server, and storage 24/7. The other is going to be my analog video capture system.

These systems must run on 80plus PSU if you want to make sure it will be stable with such overall low power consumption

 

[Melvis]

I have that same case, just from another manufacturer with a different front panel. Pretty good case for an AM1 rig.

Indeed it would....but sadly I wont be putting in a AM1 system just yet, I forgot that my gf's old PC parts are itx so ill be putting them in instead its a intel Pentium Anniversary CPU and ill OC it to 4GHz. 8GB RAM, Brand new Samsung EVO 750 120GB SSD and a 1TB Storage HDD, running Linux of some kind

 

[Flux]

My AM1H/5350 arrived today and has been running good so far. Everything I've tested has been using a 90 watt Asus laptop adapter in the DC input socket.

Windows 7 installed fine on an Intel 80gb SSD on the ASM1061 once I got it to find the driver. Once that was done I tried some video cards to see if they would work. The 9300 GS I tried at first wouldn't boot. However the GT 330 I tried did, and even my 750 Ti. I didn't want to stress test with the 750 on 90 watts, so I stuck with the 330 for overclocking the CPU.

I set the bus to 120 at first with 1.3V and it wouldn't boot past the startup screen. Once I got back into settings and changed it to 115 though it has been stable in the stress tests I've tried with the Vcore at 1.256-1.268. I had a kill-a-watt hooked up to get an idea of how much power it used:

Stock idle: 15 watt
Stock idle with GT 330: 25 watt
Stock GT 330 with cpu burner and furmark: 79 watt
OC stress test with GT 330: 30 watt

I have a 150 watt adapter if I decide to use the 750 ti in here. I'm not sure yet if I want to use the board's DC power or a PicoPSU for that much. If not, I have a GT 730 that uses only 25 watt that is currently in a J1900 system. I can move it over and once my Alpine M1 comes in next week, have a quiet machine that can do some light gaming.

 

[Toothless]

I was thinking of putting in a 5870 with my 5350 and seeing how that'll go.

 

[Melvis]

Its built! but its not a AM1 system (yet) but you get to see the case anyway with everything installed This time in the right thread

 

[Toothless]

git dat intel infidelity outta here :L

 

[Melvis]

git dat intel infidelity outta here :L

lol I know i know, if I had a AMD AM1 system here id use it but I dont yet, gotta use what I already have!

 

[Recca29]

i am thinking of buying a new system and getting back my 270x that i loaned to a friend.
now i am thinking of putting the 270x with my 5350 before putting it in the main rig.

 

[Recca29]

Added a 750ti.

 

[Toothless]

I'm tempted to find a cheap case and PSU so I can stick my 780 with my 5350.

 

[john_]

Why not sell the 780 and buy a smaller more energy efficient card?

On the other hand if you can undervolt it, instead of just underclocking it, it could make of a fun combination. It's pretty power efficient in most cases, so undervolting/underclocking it in 3D it could make it much more efficient when running 3D. With 5350 not being the fastest processor in the world, it could make sense to limit how much the card tries to produce frames when in 3D.

 

[Jhelms]

Never saw this old AM1 owners club post. My little AM1H-ITX micro PC is still up and rocking Built in August of 2014 as a basic internet / surfing / streaming / office software machine. Has not really left me wanting in this respect. But more demanding software and she shows her limits. Not much of an OC on this board running a meanwell powersupply and having bios option limitations - but noticeably more snappy than default at 2.3ish ghz

This machine will be replaced as a primary business machine sometime this year as I am gathering parts for a ryzen 1700 build. This PC will be put to task on some measurement equipment and also as a streaming player to another monitor in the office.

 

[Toothless]

Why not sell the 780 and buy a smaller more energy efficient card?

On the other hand if you can undervolt it, instead of just underclocking it, it could make of a fun combination. It's pretty power efficient in most cases, so undervolting/underclocking it in 3D it could make it much more efficient when running 3D. With 5350 not being the fastest processor in the world, it could make sense to limit how much the card tries to produce frames when in 3D.

Because I already have the 780? No point to go through the trouble to sell and buy another card when I already have it and the 5350 has already been enough to run a 380.

 

[Jhelms]

I shamelessly tossed a little cash toward my micro pc today thanks to this thread bringing back memories Just to tinker a bit more after a few years of solid service. One of those... it is really fun to try and drive a slow car fast sort of things. I plan to build a second one for a project so can use my wasted processor and ram for it. Ordered in a 5370 and some gskill CL9 2133. Right now using corsair vengeance LP 1600 which I think has always held this little machine back. Want to see what I can do to get all I can out of the AM1H mobo on a brick power supply. Did not spend much on these new parts so will see how it goes. If I make it to 2.5ghz I will be happy. Just fun to play with I guess.

 

[Recca29]

looking forward to your new build.

 

[Bo$$]

Mine is still going as my file server / TS / Automated backup box.

Been on continuously since i bought it in 2014. The corsair psu has been really good

 

[john_]

Using mine as an HTPC and it is really great. The only problem is that 1080p h265 is just too much for the Sempron 3850. I was hopping to get a cheap 5350 some time in the future, but on eBay prices are ridiculous. They look like going up instead of going down.

Have anyone tried h265 1080p videos with a 5150 or 5350? Any idea what is the minimum frequency to play those videos smoothly? I am talking about cases where using only the integrated GPU, which I guess means with no gpu hardware acceleration. Just the CPU.

 

[Jhelms]

I have never had a problem with any 1080P videos at all on my 5350 setup. Streaming has never been an issue either. Basically anything outside of gaming the little box just does.

 

[john_]

I have never had a problem with any 1080P videos at all on my 5350 setup. Streaming has never been an issue either. Basically anything outside of gaming the little box just does.

h265? That would be great. Thanks.

 

[Jhelms]

Received the gskill sniper 2133 to replace the corsair LP 1600.

After tweaking and tuning, she now sits at 2423. I noticed when set in bios to 114 bclk, it tests at 115.4. This is using the stock heatsink and a slower / quiet fan. Temp is not the issue - Max I saw was 48c. Prime errors quite fast beyond bclk of 115.4 on 2 workers only so it does not seem to be temp related. I think that is it for this chip and board. Just no more voltage to give the chip on this mobo. Setting is for 1.3 but looking at the measurements, I see 1.26 - 1.27ish load or no load. Maybe the 5370 will be more stable when it comes in. It already has a multiplier of 22 (which I do not think can be raised) which would be a drop in 2538mhz if it runs at the exact same settings (no reason for it not to). If I get lucky, maybe it can be pushed into the 2.6ghz range.

After tweaking the ram, I found it rock solid stable at 8 8 8 22 33 / around 1850ish once the ceiling above was reached on the 5350

Looking at the board under load with a thermal camera on the AM1H-ITX AsRock mobo, the inductors near the voltage regs for the DC input got very hot. I heatsinked each one. There is also a chip just forward (towards the ram) between the bios dip8 and the first ram stick that got quite hot as well. Did not look to close as to what the chip was for. Other than that, only one reg in the power phase section got really hot under load.

One detail many overlook when overclocking an AM1 - Many hit the 104 / 105 bclk brick wall in which the PC will not boot beyond this setting. This is because you are using the cpu internal sata controller. If your mobo has them, move your ssd or hard drive over to the second sata header which has a dedicated controller. On the AM1H-ITX these are marked with an A1 and A2... something like that. The CPU sata controller is marked sata 1 or 2. When you do this, you have to set in the bios to boot from windows boot manager first. Do not select to boot straight from your drive or windows will not load.

The only downside to this is a slightly slower overall read / write speed. Instead of 550/550ish you will see a max of 450/450ish. Not that it is noticeable at all. However, all of the sudden you can break through that 104/105ish barrier with ease.

Boring without photos so I will take some tonight.

In short - was fun tweaking this old turd. Still some life left in it!

John_ I will have to find a h265 file. I cannot imagine it would have any issue, especially if you OC a bit.

 

[john_]

You can go over that brick wall at 105MHz, by choosing IDE mode instead of SATA mode. That's how I got my Sempron to 1625MHz.

 

[Jhelms]

You can go over that brick wall at 105MHz, by choosing IDE mode instead of SATA mode. That's how I got my Sempron to 1625MHz.

But no ahci features in that mode. If your mobo has a second sata controller - best to just go to that and keep it in ahci mode. If no 2nd controller and you want to OC, then yes, IDE is your option.

 

[Recca29]

Tried to play Mass Effect Andromeda on low settings. did not work.

 

[john_]

But no ahci features in that mode. If your mobo has a second sata controller - best to just go to that and keep it in ahci mode. If no 2nd controller and you want to OC, then yes, IDE is your option.

Agreed and yes, that's the case with me. I am using the AM1 for video playback and watching sports online, so I don't need top performance and all the features from storage. But having gone with a Sempron I do need all the processing power I can get from the SOC. What I couldn't ever guess are the prices for the Athlon models. Athlons where selling for as low as 33 euros here a year ago, and now they are selling for about 60 (the 5150). It's crazy.

 

[Jhelms]

Agreed and yes, that's the case with me. I am using the AM1 for video playback and watching sports online, so I don't need top performance and all the features from storage. But having gone with a Sempron I do need all the processing power I can get from the SOC. What I couldn't ever guess are the prices for the Athlon models. Athlons where selling for as low as 33 euros here a year ago, and now they are selling for about 60 (the 5150). It's crazy.

Indeed - not sure why prices have gone crazy on these. I decided not to build a 2nd machine - will just stick with this and focus funds on the new build. So I will have this 5350 for sale soon along with the stock heatsink / fan I use now. Will also be tossing up the corsair LP 1600 ram. Will do that in a couple weeks once all is settled with the 5370.